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fembuck ([personal profile] fembuck) wrote2009-01-20 11:02 pm

Oh, hey there pretty mental pictures!





*I'll be in my bunk*

Um, and because I feel like this post should include more than pictures of pretty girls ... you guys were totally right.  Book #4 "A Fist Full of Charms" ROCKED!  It was utterly and completely delicious.  I'd say that it isn't possible for me to love Ivy more, but I've started Book #5 and ... well, I love her more.  

Thoughts:

1.  OMG!  Does Rachel ever see a man that she doesn't want to jump?  I mean, my god, I would love it if she met a man and was like, "eh."  Does everyone she mets have to be 'omg so gorgeous'?  Jesus Christ, this woman is like perpetually in heat.  No wonder David wanted her for his bitch. 

Like damn, girl.  Back that shit down!  I got that Big!Jenks was hot after the 60th description of his eighteen year old Adonis like good looks.  And, it's like Marshall, yeah, I got it .... Hairless and wonderful.  Thanks.  Sweet Jeebus.

2.  Kisten = kinda really cool ... until the end, where he kinda became douchey.  But then again, we all know that Rachel Morgan has the sweetest, most precious, most perfect blood this side of Bella Swan, so how could he possibly resist her.  I mean, I understand his position at the end, but I'm TEAM IVY so I call douchtitude!

3.  Ivy Tamwood = best. girlfriend. ever.  This cannot be denied, should not be denied, and will forever and always be true.  I just want to like cuddle with her, and tell her that it will be alright, and then sex her til the morning.  (P.S.  Can Ivy please not be sexually abused anymore, please???  I mean, my god the sacrifice made me cry like a goddamn baby because Ivy is so awesome, but I'm tried of the endless pain.  Especially after finding out how Piscary has been screwing her over - literally and figuratively - since she was like 15 *shudder*.  Like, damn.)

4.  Van scene =  Mmm ... oh, mmm.  Mmmm!.  Schlick ... Schlick ... Schlick.  Uh ... uh ... UH!  *shower*

5.  Crap for brains!  lol.  I can't tell you how much that running gag amused me.  Nick will forever be crap for brains to me. 

6.  I loved that this was like the book of calling Rachel on her shit.  DANGER WHORE!  Heh.  I love how she keeps on making these shittacular decisions even after knowing that she's just doing it because it makes her pants happy.  Oh, Rachel.  Rachel!  You stubborn, splendid, adorable fool.  

There's tons more to squee about, but I'm tired now, so ... feel free to add your own squees, thoughts, gushing, bitching and moaning about Books 1-4!

[identity profile] lostingeekdom.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
'Kay .. wait ... who's the Rachel in your pic, and why does she have straight hair?

As for the rest ... word. And I'm not sober enough to comment with any level ofcoherency 'cept to say .. stfu KH bout how rachel likes anything walking with a dick. Like .. ok?'nuf already with over compensating for liking Ivys girl bits and still being in de-nile land. just.shut.the.fuck.up.

'K. I'm done for now. stay tuned for more. eventually.

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
'Kay .. wait ... who's the Rachel in your pic, and why does she have straight hair?

It's Amanada Righetti. And her hair is straight, cause frizzy hair doesn't exist in Hollywood, lol. Righetti is tall-ish, with an athletic build, she's got red hair (currently), that's already almost too accurate for Hollywood casting, so I'll overlook her silky straight hair, lol

stfu KH bout how rachel likes anything walking with a dick. Like .. ok?'nuf already with over compensating for liking Ivys girl bits and still being in de-nile land. just.shut.the.fuck.up.

This! Once again, alcohol speaks the truth, lol. Seriously, it's so annoying, and it really does smack of trying too hard. Methinks, the witch doth protest too much? And the thing is, even with all of that necessary commentary, Rachel still comes across as majorly gay for Ivy.

If the church had a balcony, I feel like this would be Rachel's cry: Oh, Ivy! Ivy! Wherefore doth thou have girl bits?

'K. I'm done for now. stay tuned for more. eventually.

I'm looking forward to it!

[identity profile] lostingeekdom.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Sobered up and working ... *sigh*

Book 6 has been killing my Ravy buzz high from Book 5. It may be that KH has decided to strighten Rachel if not her hair, or it may be that she decided to pull a "Moonlighting" on Ravy when her book deal for the series extended from 6 to 9 or whatever it is supposed to be now. Which would make sense as to why there was such a buildup through books 4 and 5, and then a drastic backing down in book 6. I don't think there is any other way to read this considering how she's been positioning Ivy to be the "twu wuv" yada yada yada. It would make no sense otherwise.

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Book 6 has been killing my Ravy buzz high from Book 5.

Ugh. Everyone's saying this. I haven't even finished Book 5 yet, and my mellow is already being harshed. *cries*

or it may be that she decided to pull a "Moonlighting" on Ravy when her book deal for the series extended from 6 to 9 or whatever it is supposed to be now.

This, actually makes me happy because I do really think that Ivy is Rachel's end game, and Kim is just saving getting them together for the last book. It would explain the huge build up in books 4 and 5 if she thought 6 would be the last, and it explains why things would cool down in book 6 since she has to keep them apart for two more books. I will be patient, and have faith. Ivy HAS to be Rachel's end game. I cannot comprehend this series if she is not. However, if Kim doesn't get them together in that last book, the woman better sleep with one eye open for the rest of her life cause I will come after her like a hungry fucking Panda, I swear to Jeebus!

[identity profile] breakism.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
the woman better sleep with one eye open for the rest of her life cause I will come after her like a hungry fucking Panda, I swear to Jeebus!

I actually have a katana. I r ninja!

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_slutknot_/ 2009-01-21 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed Rachel is always in heat.
:D

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
It's crazy. Like really, really obsessive. And reflects really badly on the character when she's like going on about TRENT'S hotness. It's like Rachel is 25, not 15. I mean, acting like that wouldn't be cute if she was 15, but it would be much less annoying.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_slutknot_/ 2009-01-21 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
Word.
I maintain she's trying to convince herself that she doesn't want to jump Ivy's bones.

.......

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE, SILLY GIRL.

[identity profile] breakism.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE, SILLY GIRL.

Word.

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I maintain she's trying to convince herself that she doesn't want to jump Ivy's bones.

This. The witch really doth protest too much. UR FOOLIN' NO 1, Rache!

[identity profile] breakism.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Rachel reminds me of Bella Swan, only with better snark. Shoot, Bella was a nymph during Breaking Dawn, but Rachel makes me want to bang my head against the keyboard with her "OMG CAWK" fascination. At least Bella had an excuse, it was "OMG SPARKLE PEEN"!!!! /)_-

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Rachel reminds me of Bella Swan, only with better snark.

This really is perfect. She is Bella Swan, only funny and with a personality (be it an annoying and stupid one sometimes). I'd hang out with Rachel, not a lot and probably not after dark, whereas I'd run in the other direction if I saw Cardboard Bella.

but Rachel makes me want to bang my head against the keyboard with her "OMG CAWK" fascination.

So much word. It's TOO MUCH! It's like, I really don't begrudge her the cock, but she doesn't need to GO ON ABOUT IT!

[identity profile] ic1pher.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
Amen.

I'm really happy that you liked book 4. My world would crumble if there were no more of your glorious Ravy fics.

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
My world would crumble if there were no more of your glorious Ravy fics.

This doesn't seem like it's going to happen soon, so don't worry. It's like I'm trying to live my life around writing Ravy fics right now, lol

[identity profile] wishing-wounds.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
I just love the evolution in the books.

Rachel goes from 'Okay, I'm totally straight' in the first book to 'well, um, wait, I think I am' in book five.

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Rachel goes from 'Okay, I'm totally straight' in the first book to 'well, um, wait, I think I am' in book five.

Her, "I'm straight ... aren't I?" was epic for me. I felt like a proud Mama. It's like finally she's grasping the edge of the coffee table and hoisting herself up to take those first baby steps out of the closet :D

[identity profile] seriousfic.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
I can't help but think that Chase from Blade would so liven up these books. She'd saunter into town and have Ivy eating out of her hand (...yeah... hand...) like that. Then Rachel would be all "NOES! THEY BE TAKING MY IVY! I am very concerned that she might start drinking blood and turning to the Dark Side and BOO, GIRLFRIEND-STEALING HO!" So she'd try to intimidate Chase into leaving, but Chase would turn it around on her and say she'd only leave if Rachel either slept with her or let Chase drink her blood.

Something something Rachel/Ivy/Chase threesome. In the morning Chase is gone, having resolved another gay panic. "Who was that mysterious bleached blonde?"

...I should've had less sugar today, on the whole.

[identity profile] runetraverse.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
*imagines said threesome involving Krista, dies*

Imm'a echo Fem and Jayne here:

"I'll be in my bunk."

[identity profile] cyandragonfly.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
*raises hand shakily*

second that

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't help but think that Chase from Blade would so liven up these books. She'd saunter into town and have Ivy eating out of her hand (...yeah... hand...) like that.

Oh, gawd. Chase/Ivy would be so fucking hot. Like crazy, nuclear weapon detonating in the sun hot. Just, a hot, savage, lady on lady, fuck everything on your body that I possibly can bonanza of sexy. Rawr.

"NOES! THEY BE TAKING MY IVY! I am very concerned that she might start drinking blood and turning to the Dark Side and BOO, GIRLFRIEND-STEALING HO!"

So, Chase would be like an effective Skimmer, lol. I'm liking Skimmer bringing out Rachel's "Ivy is mine, and she can have blood whenever she wants to, and I'm not leaving so shut the fuck up". But, Chase is more better than Skimmer because she'd totally be able to get Rachel and Ivy into a threesome with her, and sex with those three woman at once would be so beautiful it could make angels cry.

"Who was that mysterious bleached blonde?"

LOL!


...I should've had less sugar today, on the whole.


I liked this flight of fancy! Moar sugar for you!

[identity profile] hypno-ninja.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
If you think Rachel is gay for Ivy now wait until the end of the 5th book, and then wait again for the 6th. Dear God but there are some very gay moments.

You. Must. Keep. Reading.

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
If you think Rachel is gay for Ivy now wait until the end of the 5th book, and then wait again for the 6th.

I thank you for giving me hope for the 6th book. I've been on a Ravy high with books 4 and what I've read of book 5 so far, but my mellow has really been harshed with the things I've been hearing about book 6. I mean, I don't mind if the Ravy is stretched out, and even if things cool down at bit after book 5, but it's not completely absent from book 6, is it? *crosses fingers, please say no, please say no, please say no*

[identity profile] wishing-wounds.livejournal.com 2009-01-22 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
It's definitely not absent.

[identity profile] ex-stanleyt.livejournal.com 2009-01-22 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
It's not absent, but there's some definite buzzkill :(

[identity profile] hypno-ninja.livejournal.com 2009-01-22 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
Definitely not there's a very very very Ravy scene towards the end of book 6, and the overall relationship becomes a lot less angst filled.

[identity profile] madndizzee.livejournal.com 2009-01-22 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
there's a deliciously Ravy scene about 180-odd pages into book 6. :D

(Anonymous) 2009-01-21 12:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm obsessed with the books too, and OMG, word on every single point.

(books 1-4 Ivy-gushing)
Especially about Ivy being the best girlfriend ever. It's terrible, but I squee through all of the Ivy-related parts and the rest is kind of incidental. "Oh, Rachel's doing something incredibly stupid and foolhardy again? Sigh. MORE IVY PLS." Also, the part where she allowed herself to be both physically and blood raped by DeLavine to the point of limping so that she could protect Rachel the bumbling idiot? Seriously, I wanted to rock her in my arms and tell her that I love her.

Also love your Ivy/Rachel fic. Though after The Outlaw Demon Wails I honestly have a lot of difficulty seeing them together. No spoilers though! :P

(Anonymous) 2009-01-21 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I kinda hated ODW, just because of that. Severe anticlimax, the whole book. I don't know how others reacted but I just felt like blah...

It was nicely written with a lot of interpersonal stuff, but when it comes to Ivy and Rachel (the reason why I like the books so damn much), it was a letdown IMO.

(Anonymous) 2009-01-21 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree, towards the end I was like "I understand it, but I hate it".

I can see why it was necessary to get Rachel to grow in that direction as a character, but the shipper part of me wanted to cry for Ivy, grab on to her and never let go. Sigh.

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
but the shipper part of me wanted to cry for Ivy

Ivy in pain, how completely unprecedented! *cries* Goddamn you Kim Harrison, goddamn you to the fiery pits of hell! Crap on toast. I knew everything was going too smoothly.

*trudges towards inevitable heart break*

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, you guys! Stop freaking me out. I'm already having a conniption fit over something I haven't even read yet!

Ravy!!!!!!!!!!!! My beautiful Ravy!!!!!!!!!! Don't leave me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[identity profile] ic1pher.livejournal.com 2009-01-22 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Well, we will see soon how it will continue in book 7. Book 6 does have some Ravy hotness, but the general direction where their relationship goes there does not please me. At. All. It's still not completely clear how it's all going to end but it seems Kim is pulling the breaks on Ravy at least for the moment.

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for book 7 though.

[identity profile] ex-stanleyt.livejournal.com 2009-01-22 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Kim has said in several places that she's gonna put space and other possible partners between Rache and Ivy :((

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
It's terrible, but I squee through all of the Ivy-related parts and the rest is kind of incidental. "Oh, Rachel's doing something incredibly stupid and foolhardy again? Sigh. MORE IVY PLS."

This is how I read the books. Every part that doesn't have Ivy is like the broccoli I have to eat before mother KH will give me dessert (a.k.a Ivy). The whole 'get nick from the Were Island' stuff in book four, was like a murky fog for me before Ivy showed up on the dock, then everything was in beautiful techno-colour. Ivy is the drug that keeps me hooked to this series.

Also, the part where she allowed herself to be both physically and blood raped by DeLavine to the point of limping so that she could protect Rachel the bumbling idiot? Seriously, I wanted to rock her in my arms and tell her that I love her.

THIS! OMG, this! Also, Rachel the Bumbling Idiot, is totally gonna be how I think of her from now on. It'll be like how Al calls her Rachel Marianna Morgan, I'll be like "Rachel the Bumbling Idiot" is at it again!

That whole DeLavine story line showed Ivy's complete commitment to Rachel, but it hurt so bad to read it. Ivy is clearly THE ONE for Rachel. The sacrifices she makes for her, need to be acknowledged and rewarded at some point. I don't care if it's the last page of the last book as long as they get together. If their not together at the end, Kim Harrison better watch her back forever, cause I'll come after her with something really pointy and I'll use it!

Though after The Outlaw Demon Wails I honestly have a lot of difficulty seeing them together. No spoilers though! :P

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! The Outlaw Demon Wails, more like the Fanfic Author Wails! *sobs* Don't harsh my beautiful mellow! OMG! You're killing me. I just finished reading the most beautiful Ravy moment ever, and then I read this. Now I'm all knotted up wondering what the hell is going to happen! *curls into a ball and dies*

(Anonymous) 2009-01-22 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole 'get nick from the Were Island' stuff in book four, was like a murky fog for me before Ivy showed up on the dock, then everything was in beautiful techno-colour.

Yeah, I read the books similarly. Like, before that it was all Rachel being impulsive and stupid and Hot!Marshall and Hot!Big!Jenks! with his 18 year old body and OMG POOR NICK GOT TORTURED!! Do I still love him? Do I not love him? But I'm with KISTEN, who's SO HOT! (God, SHUT UP RACHEL!)

Then Ivy shows up and it's like, "Oh thank God, FINALLY". And she's heartbreaking and sweet and funny and SO IN LOVE WITH RACHEL IT HURTS.

That whole DeLavine story line showed Ivy's complete commitment to Rachel, but it hurt so bad to read it. Ivy is clearly THE ONE for Rachel. The sacrifices she makes for her, need to be acknowledged and rewarded at some point.

I think what hurts the most is that Ivy so obviously would do anything for Rachel, and the opposite is not true.

Like, I was reading a comment by KH that Rachel is "in love" with Ivy, and that even though Ivy obviously has EPIC LOVE back for Rachel, KH might write it as a tragedy. I felt like it would be a cop-out because real tragedies come from BOTH parties making such sacrifices for each other and loving each other completely, but still being unable to be together because of EXTERNAL CIRCUMSTANCES (R+J, any good love story). It's completely unfair to the character of Ivy to be strung along like that, with the resolution being "oh, it's a heartbreaking love-story", because it isn't. It's far too one-sided and it pisses me off.

(I could go on, but you get the idea.)

The Outlaw Demon Wails, more like the Fanfic Author Wails! *sobs* Don't harsh my beautiful mellow! OMG! You're killing me. I just finished reading the most beautiful Ravy moment ever, and then I read this.
Sorry!! :P

[identity profile] billy-rose.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
hm... I don't know what any of this is about, but yaaaaaaaaaay firefly ref

[identity profile] yukivampyra.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to so badly to believe that they'll get together in the end. I mean, KH can't be that harsh, can she? I mean six books of build up and then nothing? That'd be cruel and unusual punishment.

But then at the same time I have this sinking feeling that it's not going to happen because KH has to appeal to her "target audience" and all that crap even though I swear every single person I know who's read this series is a Ravy shipper.

Ah, the van scene...the scene that made me squee so loud when I started reading it then made me want to grab Ivy and comfort her when it was over. :/

Oh, and I am all for Chase coming to resolve Rachel's gay panic and/or that Ivy/Rachel/Chase threesome. Someone should write that...

If their not together at the end, Kim Harrison better watch her back forever, cause I'll come after her with something really pointy and I'll use it!
I am so on board with that plan. I'll even help.

(Anonymous) 2009-01-22 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Ok what happens in the van scene? Someone, please?!
You’re killing me here. :)

[identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com 2009-01-22 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Basically, Rachel decides that she wants Ivy to bite her and like seduces Ivy with her wanton human pheromones. It's really all in the description, the way Kim Harrison writes it, is just insanely hot. It's just like crazy intense, and desperate, and full of need, and bliss at long repressed desire finally being recognized, and it's like the best, roughest sex you've ever had, but it's with a person you know will look at you like you're the most beautiful person in the world when your hair is a mess first thing in the morning, so it's all beautiful and shit.

Seriously, you've just gotta read it. It's so awesome. And then, as usual it turns all angsty. But for once, Rachel doesn't react to something like a complete dick, and so even with the angst her trust and defense of Ivy makes it sweet.

I don't know if that made any sense actually, I haven't had anything to drink, but I feel like I have. I hope it made sense. Ravy makes my brain go something something ;)

(Anonymous) 2009-01-22 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
But then at the same time I have this sinking feeling that it's not going to happen because KH has to appeal to her "target audience" and all that crap even though I swear every single person I know who's read this series is a Ravy shipper.

Yeah, I know right? It's not even subtext, it's right out there: Ivy's love for Rachel, Rachel's heterosexual overcompensation, the angst, the soulmate-ness, etc. I mean, when (if?) they get together, no one reading the series could be like, "Oh, I didn't see that coming." I think that it would be satisfying for the non-Ravy shippers too, even, since it's been foreshadowed and built up SO MUCH. It's really the only logical end-point. I was reading some reviews of the books on Amazon and quite a few people had said stuff like, "the Rachel/Ivy angst is getting tiresome, can they just get together already? Otherwise KH just needs to back off all that."

[identity profile] madndizzee.livejournal.com 2009-01-22 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm that there's an interesting looking redhead. *stares dreamily at Maggie Q* Damn, at work again, no bunkage for me...

Awesome! Glad you loved book 4. :D That's just what I felt about the van scene lol.

I understand his position at the end, but I'm TEAM IVY so I call douchtitude!

lol Well, we all know Kisten's just there to rouse Ivy's possessiveness. ;)

Ivy Tamwood = best. girlfriend. ever. This cannot be denied, should not be denied, and will forever and always be true. I just want to like cuddle with her, and tell her that it will be alright, and then sex her til the morning.

WORD!! Poor Ivy. Her sacrifice shall not be in vain. I decree that Her Bumbleness, Rachel Mariana Morgan, will get together with her in the end! (And if not, I will join you in the hunt for KH with sharp, pointy, shiny or not so shiny objects!)

I've started book 6 and yeah, there Rachel the Bumbling Idiot goes again with the "ooh, man!" in heat thing again. Ivy remains the best-girlfriend-ever! with her concern over Rachel's wellbeing and even with her warning signage, in spite of which Rachel continues to bumble. *bangs head on desk*

[identity profile] miims.livejournal.com 2009-01-22 10:56 am (UTC)(link)
maybe it's because of too much Hamilton's Anita Blake, but solution to Rachels fear of becoming scion and being out of control - seams obvious. she takes Ivy as familiar, Ivy takes her as scion - now they share strengths, are protected from abuse of powers and can give each other energy.
And They Lived Happily Ever After...

one can hope.