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So, RL has been monopolizing all of my haterade for the last week or so (working with a raging narcissit is really, really, really not fun, FYI). RL ranting however, is not nearly as fun as Hollows ranting because I'm faced with the irritation every day. This means that I am really, really in need of fun ranting, and thankfully CB has posted some more answers to fan questions providing the perfect opportunity for such an event! Yay!

21 Apr 2009
Hey Kim, I was wondering if I missed something in the last two books concerning the kiss that Ivy gave Rachel and the questions that it made Rachel ask herself concerning how she feels about Ivy? Unless I missed something in the last books they dealt with the blood balance issue but never mentioned the kiss. Also I never saw Rachel answer any of the question she had about herself such as was it Ivy that made her feel so good or just the blood etc. Has these issues been resolved or are they going to reappear in the future?

4/21/09 -- The resolution between Ivy and Rachel won't happen until the end of the series, which is why they are both exploring other options right now. There is no way I can carry on that sexual tension for a dozen books and not have everyone yawning ho, hum, but we will return to it in the last book to settle the issue, one way or the other. --Kim.

'If U Seek Amy' gently with a chainsaw! I mean, really ... DAAAAAAMN, gurl! Jesus H. Christ, woman! I'd say ...

But I can't even front and pretend that I am surprised by this. Actually, I fully expected that she wouldn't conclusively address "Ravy" until the last book. That was fine, when the series was supposed to be six books long. That's not cool now if we're only halfway through the series. I'm sorry, but the issues between Rachel and Ivy are really big effing issues! You cannot ignore the sexual tension (and declarations of love) between them for like five more books! It's insane. People do not stop having feelings for each other because they got series extensions. Seeing other people hasn't stopped the issues between them for seven books, so why would it suddenly be a non-issue between them? You cannot ignore it because it is inconvenient. It has to go somewhere!

Ugh! GROW A PAIR! IT'S TIME TO HOPE OF THE FUCKING FENCE! Seriously, Shit or get off the pot, my friend.

The subtext between them IS NOT going to stop. Cock Block is incapable of not writing Rachel subconsciously being attracted to Ivy, so the sexual tension is going to remain no matter who the two of them are dating. So deal with it. Find a way to make it work. Ignoring it is not making it work.

Have Ivy and Rachel go for it. Get them together. Ivy's still got issues, and Rachel is still an immature jackass so it doesn't have to work out perfectly . Just because they admit their attraction and sleep together it doesn't been that angels will sing and that's the end of everything. Cock Block, listen to me, you're good at cock-blocking ... so use you're powers for good this time!

I know Cock Block could think of some way to temporary break them up after having them get together. She can spend a book getting them together, a book cock-blocking after they get together, a book of angst that deals with the break-up, and then two more books having them slowly work their way back together.

What about the het fans you may say, I've got a solution for that as well.

In the angst section when they are broken up, Cock Block can have them try with other people. She can see what the characters tell her to do. From there, she could decide to:

1) Keep them broken up. But hey, at least they got a shot together. At least seven books of sexual tension wasn't completely fucking wasted. From there, maybe Ivy gets together with a chick that will actually appreciate her, and Rachel ends up with some boring idiot.
2) They get back together eventually. Their new love interests don't work out, just like none of their love interests did. It's an angsty battle but eventually Ravy find their way back to each other and live happily ever after (as it should be).

The point is, this allows for movement forward, but it still gives Cock Block room to cock-block while acknowledging what has been building for seven books without painting Cock Block into a corner for the end of series!

And I'm done.

Discuss ...

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When I checked my e-mail and saw that you updated, I was beyond excitement. That, of course, turned into panic as soon as I saw the title and the tags. Then, that panic turned into relief as I saw that it wasn't all caps. That relief then turned into anger as I read and found myself getting mad at CB for the same reasons as you.
This is where that anger turned into RAGE (see http://encyclopediadramatica.com/RAGE), absolutely unconcealed RAGE towards CB.

Oh, look. I got the first comment, too. (And the second, perhaps?)

lol! The Four Steps of Reading a Response from Kim! *sigh* That pictures sums everything up so well though. She's exhausting, she and her cock blocking are exhausting!

It's so exhausting that you forgot how to count, my dear. I see five stages in my original message ;)
Can't us shippers just see them make love ONCE? D:

Math was always my worst subject ;)

Can't us shippers just see them make love ONCE?

This. It's like at least give us that much respect. It would not be inauthentic to the characters, so just give us something - especially if you plan on screwing us over in the end.

Math was always my worst subject ;)
..and your best was Sex Ed? ;)

It would not be inauthentic to the characters, so just give us something - especially if you plan on screwing us over in the end.
I...just...yes...THIS.

you're right, CB is being supremely unimaginative. ridiculous! she just turned off at least half her readers.

CB is being supremely unimaginative.

She really is. She's been playing the will they/won't they since book 1. It's an old hat now, it's been an old hat for two books, and doing more of the same thing is boring and lazy, and turns the audience off as well.

Yeah I know... it's Kim. ROFL @ that blue guy XD *tears in eyes*
I concur, the story doesn't need to end if they get together, even for a short while. Perhaps it would be beneficial for her to consider hiring a ghost writer.

Maybe this will make you feel better ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNkZzqhuPB4

Thank you, thank you for that youtube clip. Waldsen/Bleighton is so amazing. I could just watch that clip over and over again. Serena's chuckle was pure sex. They are magnificent ... ly gay.

the story doesn't need to end if they get together, even for a short while.

It really doesn't. And getting them together in some capacity, at least means that the whole series isn't a wash for some fans.

Perhaps it would be beneficial for her to consider hiring a ghost writer.

What does a ghost writer do exactly? In any case, she needs to bounce things off of some one cause things are getting stale.

*hug*

Incidentally, do you read Kim's Drama Box? If you don't, I'm gonna stop posting her answers to questions on Rhombus since it's a total downer to most people! lol

Oh, if you didn't post the Drama Box answers, what would I have to rant about? lol. Seriously, I think we like complaining, I think people enjoy the updates :D

I knew as soon as I posted that it was gonna trigger a rant from you, at the very least ;)

lol! You know what will push my buttons!

*isn't going there*

lol

What? Like there's a hold button for character development? Yeah right - let's see, we have 2 (in their own ways) hotheaded young women who have a habit of flirting with the world's definition of what is "right" for them, who also have a habit of flirting with each other, and they're going to put it all on ice for 4.5 books.

Help! What is wrong with this picture...

Like there's a hold button for character development?

This! It's part of them. The tension is a huge part of their relationship. Kim's made it a huge part of their relationship. You can't just ignore now because it's inconvenient.

they're going to put it all on ice for 4.5 books

It's even more ridiculous seeing the number written like that. Ugh.

What is wrong with this picture...

*sigh* Everything ...

If ODW was supposed to be the "putting the UST on hold" book then... I'm sorry, but what was happening in WWBC exactly? The making-all-da-men-uncomfortable with the touching, the mega heart to hearts, the aura sharing... still screams to me as typical ol' Rachel and Ivy. This is not stopping everyone from "yawning ho, hum" at the sexual tension. It's still there. It will always be there. It's just how their relationship works.

The only way to break sexual tension is to, well, break it. Ignoring it for a bit is not breaking. How does that even work? Book 12 (or whichever it may be) rolls along and Rachel suddenly snaps her fingers and says "Dude, Ivy, 'member how hot we were for each other half a dozen books ago? Yeah, let's talk about that." Strikes me as a tad contrived, you know?

then... I'm sorry, but what was happening in WWBC exactly? The making-all-da-men-uncomfortable with the touching, the mega heart to hearts, the aura sharing... still screams to me as typical ol' Rachel and Ivy.

This. It's ALWAYS THERE! In fact, they are more sweetly gay for each other when it's supposed to be the most platonic between them. Honestly, Ivy could be a bit of a creeper in the beginning, but now as well of the hot hot UST there's also this sweet hand holding side to them that makes it all even MORE gay.

How does that even work? Book 12 (or whichever it may be) rolls along and Rachel suddenly snaps her fingers and says "Dude, Ivy, 'member how hot we were for each other half a dozen books ago? Yeah, let's talk about that." Strikes me as a tad contrived, you know?

*sigh* I know.

I am so over Cock Block's shenanigans. I think I really am close to the point where I genuinely will not read anymore of the books and just read fic and fic. Because the stupidity is exhausting.

LOL, she couldn't make them seem 100% platonic if she tried. I think she doesn't realize the amount of gay she puts into the books until after they're published and people ask these questions.

I love your epic collection of rage pictures and animations. :D

I think she doesn't realize the amount of gay she puts into the books until after they're published and people ask these questions.

I really think this is true. I think that she desperately doesn't want them to hook up. I think that she thinks that she's building up a great story of epic friendship here, and that she is surprised/annoyed when people mention how gay they are for each other.

BUT SHE ONLY HAS HERSELF TO BLAME! Not just for creating the sexual tension in the first place, but by making blood lust/sex such a major part of Ivy and Rachel's interactions together. We have no basis for their friendship without the sexual tension between them, because they were like mounting each other 100 pages into the first book.

It's like, Jesus fucking Christ woman, if you didn't want to have to deal with the gay then you shouldn't have made it THE MOST CONSISTENT ISSUE IN YOUR BOOK SERIES!

I love your epic collection of rage pictures and animations

lol, I'm glad. They help me deal with the rage. It's really cathartic using them actually :D

BUT SHE ONLY HAS HERSELF TO BLAME! Not just for creating the sexual tension in the first place, but by making blood lust/sex such a major part of Ivy and Rachel's interactions together. We have no basis for their friendship without the sexual tension between them, because they were like mounting each other 100 pages into the first book.

God, yes. I couldn't get over how gay the first few chapters were! How anyone could deny it just does not compute.

It's like, Jesus fucking Christ woman, if you didn't want to have to deal with the gay then you shouldn't have made it THE MOST CONSISTENT ISSUE IN YOUR BOOK SERIES!

This is exactly the problem! I just can't wrap my mind around the idea that an author can be so oblivious to the major themes that SHE WRITES ABOUT. Does she smoke too much weed? Does she not have an editor? At what point will someone who proofs her new chapters take her aside and say, "uh, hey, you this new stuff? Yeah. Rachel and Ivy have more sexual tension than daytime soaps. This passage here?" *papers shuffling* "This part where Rachel nearly gets shot because she was caught up in how perfect Ivy's behind is? That's gay. No, ma'am. It's not platonic. She's still thinking about the kiss, and that happened four books ago. I believe that you mentioned it a total of 22 times in the first 10 chapters."

Sooooo, longtime reader new LJ poster....
I only got started reading these @#$#%%@@% books because of your fanfic so now I'm hooked (on your fanfic, not necessarily the KH books :).... I too am frustrated with the back and forth, not quite getting there nature of the Ravy relationship but I have to say, I would be more upset to see them get together now to have KH then break them up for awhile, than I will be if she were to have them dabble in others then ultimately "see the light" at the end. She can have all kinds of storylines for the next few books that just focus on general non-romantic things (though I suppose for Rachel that would be asking too much) that would 'delay the talk' for them for another few books. I also have to admit I didn't really grasp an inevitable Ivy/Glen relationship in WWBC and will be extremely disappointed if KH goes down that road. The least she can do is give us Ivy in a not-totally-dysfunctional relationship with a woman so that we can all say "un huh, Rachel, see there, that be what you missin' Chica!" To me, KH having Ivy in a relationship with a man won't be nearly as threatening to Rachel's "Ivy worships me so I can have her whenever I want' mindset as having her in a relationship with another woman would. Just my 1 cent (because the dollar sucks right now ;0)

not necessarily the KH books

Consider yourself lucky. The books are going from awesome into a swirling vortex of suck that I am having the damnest time trying to pull myself out of. It's like an abusive relationship. I know better, but I keep coming back for more. *sigh*

I would be more upset to see them get together now to have KH then break them up for awhile, than I will be if she were to have them dabble in others then ultimately "see the light" at the end.

My thing is that I am becoming more and more and more convinced every day that she REALLY doesn't intend for them to be together in the end. I honestly don't think that it will happen. If I did, I wouldn't want a temporary hookup. But she's beaten me down to the point, where I just want SOMETHING to happen between them so that I haven't wasted X amount of money and a butt-load of time reading these books only to be

at the end of the series.

She can have all kinds of storylines for the next few books that just focus on general non-romantic things (though I suppose for Rachel that would be asking too much) that would 'delay the talk' for them for another few books.

Honestly, I would love it if she dialed back the romance (ALL romance, not just Ravy). The reason why I love the first book so much is because it was a lot of plot, and very little romance. But I don't think that CB will ever go back to those simpler (more enjoyable) times. I think the next book is going to be full of Pierce shenanigans, will probably introduce another male character who will be Rachel's next love interest, and will shit on Ivy as usual by having things go horribly wrong between her and Glenn.

To me, KH having Ivy in a relationship with a man won't be nearly as threatening to Rachel's "Ivy worships me so I can have her whenever I want' mindset as having her in a relationship with another woman would.

Exactly. Which is why I think she chose to have Ivy with a man at this point. She's really pushing the whole 'friendship' thing. Rachel got batshit jealous when Skimmer was around which came off really fucking gay. When Glenn, Rachel won't feel threatened, will probably be supportive (when she pulls her head out of her ass long enough to even realize they are dating), and therefore Cock Block manages to avoid the Ravy UST.

I just have no faith in K.H. ~~right now~~. She's playing both sides of the fields, but when she's forced to pick one side I think she'll come down on the side of Rachel/random dude.

"People do not stop having feelings for each other because they got series extensions." I couldn't agree more.

And I think my reaction was even more dramatic because:
a) I only even gave Kim Harrison a chance because of YOUR fanfics, which btw, I love.
b) I found out about the uh... distance possibility of maaaaybe something happening at the end of the series at Amazon.com board, among comments by het fans cheering for the no-go u_u
c) I had just seen "The Secrets", a really beautiful, really touching film where after everything - and here's a SPOILER that will save you some heart-break if you're into happy endings as I am and if you're still reading, well here's your chance to NOT READ the SPOILER: the rebel girl marries some dude. Damn.

*sighs* Sorry about the ranting too =P
But after all that all I can ask is that YOU keep writing, because if it wasn't for you and your fantastic stories everything would be so much worse.

Thank you for so many beautiful stories!

xxmadlaxx
PS: my actual books are still on their way, since I live in Brazil =P and you can charge Kim and her publisher since I only ordered them because of your fics. Well, I guess if they don't break our hearts by the end of it it'll be good enough, eh?

I had just seen "The Secrets", a really beautiful, really touching film where after everything - and here's a SPOILER that will save you some heart-break if you're into happy endings as I am and if you're still reading, well here's your chance to NOT READ the SPOILER: the rebel girl marries some dude. Damn.

You know, I totally understand that. I think that a lot of my frustration with this series and K.H. comes from the fact that I'm tried of lesbian relationships always being cock-blocked. Just almost all the time there's one of the chicks ends up with a dude or dead in the end. And here, Cock Block has created this amazing relationship between these two women, has the set up for what could be an epic romance, and she's just going to flush it all down the toilet because the Urban Fantasy genre is all about Mary Sue's getting it on with hot guys and muttering stuff in Latin, and because Rachel is totally Kim's Sasha Fierce and Kim would want to end up with a guy (even though being love interest for a hot chick would be totally flattering, cause she's open minded like that).

Sorry about the ranting too =P

You never need to apologize to me for ranting! Believe me I understand the impulse.

my actual books are still on their way

Enjoy the first five. Stock up on alcohol for the last two.

Well, I guess if they don't break our hearts by the end of it it'll be good enough, eh?

I'm pretty sure I'm going to end up feeling like this:

I just really think she will screw the Ravy over in the end, and then will make things worse by acting like it was the "natural" ending for them instead of the easy-way out.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE your use of an animated image at the very end there. Perfect! It was perfect.

As for Kim. God. I don't even know what to do with that. I do know I won't be buying any more books of hers. SEE? THIS IS WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE BALLS TO TELL THE STORY YOU'VE BEEN SETTING UP!

I LOVE LOVE LOVE your use of an animated image at the very end there.

lol, I'm glad. It's so perfect, because I remember the disgust with which the laptop was closed in the actual episode and it mirrors my disgust with Cock Block perfectly.

As for Kim. God.

I know. I know.

I do know I won't be buying any more books of hers.

This. I'm not wasting my money on this shit. I have no faith that this is all building towards anything that I want anymore, and worse still I know that she is deliberately fucking with my feeling to get my cash money, so ...

THIS IS WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE BALLS TO TELL THE STORY YOU'VE BEEN SETTING UP!

Exactly.

I almost wish that more people read the drama box so that her bullshit got spread to a wider range of people, who in turn became really pissed off and stopped buying the books as well, and so sales for the next book like tanked. It would serve her right for being a series extending, fence-pole sitting, cock-blocking, coward.

ok im sorry but exact;y how many books does she plan on writing? i dont think i can do this much longer... i actually bought WWBC wen it came out and i think i wasted my money. i own all the books and it kills me that she hasn't made ravy happen yet i mean come on in book one you have ivy crawling over a table and onto Rachel's lap all the while Rachel is panting for her. even then she was wondering whether or not she wanted ivy. to stretch that for the first 4 books i can handle 5 yea i can do that to, at least it was leading somewhere but to go cold turkey on us for 2 whole is just not right. its getting tired and unnatural for them to not to hook up already u cant suddenly ignore all the build up like it didn't happen. it like foreplay then no sex...grrrr. maybe someone should make Kim some suggestions??

your rants are the highlights in my busy nights , srry this was so long btw. but this was extremely funny. i love all the little clips and pics. you should totally send Kim your rants

ok im sorry but exact;y how many books does she plan on writing?

Like fucking 14 or some shit! I am not even joking. That's about the number if she gets her way. Though at the moment she may only have an extension for 9.

i dont think i can do this much longer...

This. I'm sorry, this is 1954, this isn't even 1984. People don't have the attention spans for these long ass series anymore. When J.K. Rowling (who rocks my world) is worried about seven books, what makes Cock Block think she can get away with 14!?!?!

i mean come on in book one you have ivy crawling over a table and onto Rachel's lap all the while Rachel is panting for her. even then she was wondering whether or not she wanted ivy. to stretch that for the first 4 books i can handle 5 yea i can do that to, at least it was leading somewhere but to go cold turkey on us for 2 whole is just not right.

Couldn't agree more. If she didn't want to deal with a gay romance she shouldn't have fucking written a gay romance into the goddamn series. That way, I could have just said, "If You Seek Amy this Urban Fantasy shit" and never started reading the series at all.

you should totally send Kim your rants

I'm not that big of an asshole, lol. Also, I don't think that it would make a difference at all. People point this stuff out politely at the drama box all the time, and she ultimately doesn't give a shit.

i love all the little clips and pics.

lol! I'm glad. I love using them. It's so cathartic!

ARGH god damn you Cockblock! Bloody hell ... there are so many ways to go with this. The (lame) straight option -- let them sleep together and get cockblocked by Rachel's "straightness", after which they accept a relationship of best-friends-only. The angsty queer option -- have them sleep together, Rachel freaks out for a book or two, and then she finally admits how she feels about Ivy and they work on building a relationship. The heteroflexible option -- have Rachel finally wake up (possibly due to Ivy getting with someone else and Rachel becoming jealous) and spend a book trying to reconcile her feelings for Ivy with her "straightness", before she admits how she is BLATANTLY GAY FOR IVY, and they enact Ravy.

Either way just CONFRONT IT, COCKBLOCK, instead of sweeping the situation under the rug. From what I've gleaned from Amazon, even the straight fans are tired of this angsty, unresolved ridiculousness.

LOL -- sorry for how angry this post sounded! I'm not as fired up as my post suggests. But this kind of thing makes a queer girl sad :-(

I really liked your third option where Rachel admits that she's BLATANTLY GAY FOR IVY. In fact, I wish she would shout it out just like that. ;)

Rachel really is too gay (for Ivy) to function. For reals. ;-)

The (lame) straight option -- let them sleep together and get cockblocked by Rachel's "straightness", after which they accept a relationship of best-friends-only. The angsty queer option -- have them sleep together, Rachel freaks out for a book or two, and then she finally admits how she feels about Ivy and they work on building a relationship. The heteroflexible option -- have Rachel finally wake up (possibly due to Ivy getting with someone else and Rachel becoming jealous) and spend a book trying to reconcile her feelings for Ivy with her "straightness", before she admits how she is BLATANTLY GAY FOR IVY, and they enact Ravy.

All of this would be better than what we're going to get. All of these suggestions wouldn't be necessarily satisfying, but they would totally be better. But what we're going to get is the same old shit we've always gotten, with Rachel and Ivy moving glacially towards ... I don't even know what, since I don't think she's going to have them end up together. It'll be like 12 books worse of rising action and then the series will roll over and fall asleep before the climax.

This, 'Rachel is going to grow up' and 'there is no sexual tension because they are seeing other people (while meanwhile there is truck loads of UST between them)' is SO OLD. It is SO INCREDIBLY OLD AND BORING. I'm ...

From what I've gleaned from Amazon, even the straight fans are tired of this angsty, unresolved ridiculousness.

Yeah. And it's because gay or straight, smart people recognize stupid for what it is. And this insane dragging out of the will they/won't they is STUPID AS HELL.

This put the nail in the coffin for this series for me. I love idea of Ivy and Rachel but now I know that they wasted 5 maybe 6 books for nothing to happen.

Kim, From comments I have seen on this site and other interviews it seems like you have already decided that Ivy and Rachel are not going to be a couple or lovers. Is my interpretation of your comments correct or is there still hope? I personally think that you have written the story and emotions very well between the two of them that it is difficult to see a happy ending if my understanding is correct.

4/22/09 -- There is always hope, but I don't see them ending up together. Rachel is to flaky to be a good match for Ivy. It would never last. But no fear, I will have happy endings for both of them. --Kim

4/22/09 -- There is always hope, but I don't see them ending up together. Rachel is to flaky to be a good match for Ivy. It would never last. But no fear, I will have happy endings for both of them. --Kim

You know what, despite Zac Efron expressing my rage for me, I have to thank you for this. This has finally done it. I will not buy another one of these books, and I will not read another one of these books. I may not even bother to find out what happens in the rest of these books. And I will be bitter for some time that I even bothered reading any of these books in the first.

Rachel is to flaky to be a good match for Ivy.

I've often thought this actually. You know what would have been good? RESOLVING THIS FUCKING THING THREE FUCKING BOOKS IN!!!! Stringing people along when you have no intention of going somewhere with something is a BITCH ASS MOVE! If they're going to end up as friends, just have them fucking be friends and let the femslashers write from the bread crumbs as usual, instead of making all of this UST text and then going nowhere with it.

STOP LYING AND BEING A FENCE-SITTING MONEY GRUBBING A-HOLE and just admit that it's all about Rachel being a precious little snow-flake and getting it on with pretty menfolk. Just be goddamn honest, and let the people who like that stuff enjoy it, and let the bi/lesbian audience decide that it's not for them and move onto something else that isn't going to falcon punch us in the end.

I honestly have no more respect for her. She brought Ivy Tamwood into my life and for that, I will be grateful. But I just have no respect for her at all any more. It's like: Dear Kim,

No Love,
Janine

4/22/09 -- There is always hope, but I don't see them ending up together. Rachel is to flaky to be a good match for Ivy. It would never last. But no fear, I will have happy endings for both of them. --Kim

Ugh. I feel like an addict trying to resist the needle, but I've managed not to purchase another of those blasted books after the fifth one. I'd decided after reading it to just survive on fic, and maybe wiki or summary articles about the other books. I was never wildly impressed with CB's writing. There's no way I'm shelling out for 14 of her books.

If you're looking for something very gay where the girl actually gets the girl, there's a fantasy series (elemental magic in old school fantasy world kind of thing) that I like by Laurie J. Marks. It's very gay, actually. There's only one straight couple in the book. That's really it's only major fault, IMO. It suffers from the Everyone-Is-Gay theme. The writing is good, the characters are great, and the plot is passable. It's called the Elemental Logic series. The first book is Fire Logic. Three are out. I'm not sure if there will be another, but it would make sense to do one for each of the elements.

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I mean, we all have a legitimate reason for wanting to rant about KH and her 'cock blocking' but, you have to admit, it's also tons of fun! xD

No, I'm with you. I get a ton of fun out of these rant posts too. I'm just gonna be sad when I won't be able to make them about The Hollows anymore. I'm going to have to find something else to rant about before I give up on the books completely, so that I can keep up the rants.

And this is also why I NEVER read the questions & comments on her page...

Yeah, but I'm kind of glad that I've realized she's a douche. I've only really invested about 4 months into these books. If I didn't read these answers and realize that she was going to butt rape me in the end, then I might have spent YEARS following this series only to be bitter and enraged at the end. Better to make a clean break. Just cut off the wounded limb before the infection can spread.

It's hurt for the last little while, but I'm finally free!

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