RANT POST!
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fembuckSo, RL has been monopolizing all of my haterade for the last week or so (working with a raging narcissit is really, really, really not fun, FYI). RL ranting however, is not nearly as fun as Hollows ranting because I'm faced with the irritation every day. This means that I am really, really in need of fun ranting, and thankfully CB has posted some more answers to fan questions providing the perfect opportunity for such an event! Yay!
21 Apr 2009
Hey Kim, I was wondering if I missed something in the last two books concerning the kiss that Ivy gave Rachel and the questions that it made Rachel ask herself concerning how she feels about Ivy? Unless I missed something in the last books they dealt with the blood balance issue but never mentioned the kiss. Also I never saw Rachel answer any of the question she had about herself such as was it Ivy that made her feel so good or just the blood etc. Has these issues been resolved or are they going to reappear in the future?
4/21/09 -- The resolution between Ivy and Rachel won't happen until the end of the series, which is why they are both exploring other options right now. There is no way I can carry on that sexual tension for a dozen books and not have everyone yawning ho, hum, but we will return to it in the last book to settle the issue, one way or the other. --Kim.
'If U Seek Amy' gently with a chainsaw! I mean, really ... DAAAAAAMN, gurl! Jesus H. Christ, woman! I'd say ...
But I can't even front and pretend that I am surprised by this. Actually, I fully expected that she wouldn't conclusively address "Ravy" until the last book. That was fine, when the series was supposed to be six books long. That's not cool now if we're only halfway through the series. I'm sorry, but the issues between Rachel and Ivy are really big effing issues! You cannot ignore the sexual tension (and declarations of love) between them for like five more books! It's insane. People do not stop having feelings for each other because they got series extensions. Seeing other people hasn't stopped the issues between them for seven books, so why would it suddenly be a non-issue between them? You cannot ignore it because it is inconvenient. It has to go somewhere!
Ugh! GROW A PAIR! IT'S TIME TO HOPE OF THE FUCKING FENCE! Seriously, Shit or get off the pot, my friend.
The subtext between them IS NOT going to stop. Cock Block is incapable of not writing Rachel subconsciously being attracted to Ivy, so the sexual tension is going to remain no matter who the two of them are dating. So deal with it. Find a way to make it work. Ignoring it is not making it work.
Have Ivy and Rachel go for it. Get them together. Ivy's still got issues, and Rachel is still an immature jackass so it doesn't have to work out perfectly . Just because they admit their attraction and sleep together it doesn't been that angels will sing and that's the end of everything. Cock Block, listen to me, you're good at cock-blocking ... so use you're powers for good this time!
I know Cock Block could think of some way to temporary break them up after having them get together. She can spend a book getting them together, a book cock-blocking after they get together, a book of angst that deals with the break-up, and then two more books having them slowly work their way back together.
What about the het fans you may say, I've got a solution for that as well.
In the angst section when they are broken up, Cock Block can have them try with other people. She can see what the characters tell her to do. From there, she could decide to:
1) Keep them broken up. But hey, at least they got a shot together. At least seven books of sexual tension wasn't completely fucking wasted. From there, maybe Ivy gets together with a chick that will actually appreciate her, and Rachel ends up with some boring idiot.
2) They get back together eventually. Their new love interests don't work out, just like none of their love interests did. It's an angsty battle but eventually Ravy find their way back to each other and live happily ever after (as it should be).
The point is, this allows for movement forward, but it still gives Cock Block room to cock-block while acknowledging what has been building for seven books without painting Cock Block into a corner for the end of series!
And I'm done.
Discuss ...
21 Apr 2009
Hey Kim, I was wondering if I missed something in the last two books concerning the kiss that Ivy gave Rachel and the questions that it made Rachel ask herself concerning how she feels about Ivy? Unless I missed something in the last books they dealt with the blood balance issue but never mentioned the kiss. Also I never saw Rachel answer any of the question she had about herself such as was it Ivy that made her feel so good or just the blood etc. Has these issues been resolved or are they going to reappear in the future?
4/21/09 -- The resolution between Ivy and Rachel won't happen until the end of the series, which is why they are both exploring other options right now. There is no way I can carry on that sexual tension for a dozen books and not have everyone yawning ho, hum, but we will return to it in the last book to settle the issue, one way or the other. --Kim.
'If U Seek Amy' gently with a chainsaw! I mean, really ... DAAAAAAMN, gurl! Jesus H. Christ, woman! I'd say ...
But I can't even front and pretend that I am surprised by this. Actually, I fully expected that she wouldn't conclusively address "Ravy" until the last book. That was fine, when the series was supposed to be six books long. That's not cool now if we're only halfway through the series. I'm sorry, but the issues between Rachel and Ivy are really big effing issues! You cannot ignore the sexual tension (and declarations of love) between them for like five more books! It's insane. People do not stop having feelings for each other because they got series extensions. Seeing other people hasn't stopped the issues between them for seven books, so why would it suddenly be a non-issue between them? You cannot ignore it because it is inconvenient. It has to go somewhere!
Ugh! GROW A PAIR! IT'S TIME TO HOPE OF THE FUCKING FENCE! Seriously, Shit or get off the pot, my friend.
The subtext between them IS NOT going to stop. Cock Block is incapable of not writing Rachel subconsciously being attracted to Ivy, so the sexual tension is going to remain no matter who the two of them are dating. So deal with it. Find a way to make it work. Ignoring it is not making it work.
Have Ivy and Rachel go for it. Get them together. Ivy's still got issues, and Rachel is still an immature jackass so it doesn't have to work out perfectly . Just because they admit their attraction and sleep together it doesn't been that angels will sing and that's the end of everything. Cock Block, listen to me, you're good at cock-blocking ... so use you're powers for good this time!
I know Cock Block could think of some way to temporary break them up after having them get together. She can spend a book getting them together, a book cock-blocking after they get together, a book of angst that deals with the break-up, and then two more books having them slowly work their way back together.
What about the het fans you may say, I've got a solution for that as well.
In the angst section when they are broken up, Cock Block can have them try with other people. She can see what the characters tell her to do. From there, she could decide to:
1) Keep them broken up. But hey, at least they got a shot together. At least seven books of sexual tension wasn't completely fucking wasted. From there, maybe Ivy gets together with a chick that will actually appreciate her, and Rachel ends up with some boring idiot.
2) They get back together eventually. Their new love interests don't work out, just like none of their love interests did. It's an angsty battle but eventually Ravy find their way back to each other and live happily ever after (as it should be).
The point is, this allows for movement forward, but it still gives Cock Block room to cock-block while acknowledging what has been building for seven books without painting Cock Block into a corner for the end of series!
And I'm done.
Discuss ...
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Date: 2009-04-22 01:29 am (UTC)I love your epic collection of rage pictures and animations. :D
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Date: 2009-04-23 12:13 am (UTC)I really think this is true. I think that she desperately doesn't want them to hook up. I think that she thinks that she's building up a great story of epic friendship here, and that she is surprised/annoyed when people mention how gay they are for each other.
BUT SHE ONLY HAS HERSELF TO BLAME! Not just for creating the sexual tension in the first place, but by making blood lust/sex such a major part of Ivy and Rachel's interactions together. We have no basis for their friendship without the sexual tension between them, because they were like mounting each other 100 pages into the first book.
It's like, Jesus fucking Christ woman, if you didn't want to have to deal with the gay then you shouldn't have made it THE MOST CONSISTENT ISSUE IN YOUR BOOK SERIES!
I love your epic collection of rage pictures and animations
lol, I'm glad. They help me deal with the rage. It's really cathartic using them actually :D
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Date: 2009-04-23 04:39 am (UTC)God, yes. I couldn't get over how gay the first few chapters were! How anyone could deny it just does not compute.
This is exactly the problem! I just can't wrap my mind around the idea that an author can be so oblivious to the major themes that SHE WRITES ABOUT. Does she smoke too much weed? Does she not have an editor? At what point will someone who proofs her new chapters take her aside and say, "uh, hey, you this new stuff? Yeah. Rachel and Ivy have more sexual tension than daytime soaps. This passage here?" *papers shuffling* "This part where Rachel nearly gets shot because she was caught up in how perfect Ivy's behind is? That's gay. No, ma'am. It's not platonic. She's still thinking about the kiss, and that happened four books ago. I believe that you mentioned it a total of 22 times in the first 10 chapters."