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Friends, I am sorry to report that there is no Dr. Hot Pants in 1x09 "Fae Day" (<- download).


It is a very entertaining episode however, and for the Kenzi fans out there she gets a lot of positive face time.

Bo practicing with a sword is hot ... even though she looks like she's about to head out to yoga class.

Bo:  I really need a break from the Fae and their shit.
[Bo and Kenzi show up at Tricks for one drink - only we all know it's never really one drink]
Kenzi: And cue the Fae and their shit.

Aw, Bo needs a Fae-cation, lol.  Sounds cool, typed out it looks like something completely different.

Banshee's are such party-poopers!

Nice to know that Bo has been freezing Dyson out over his shit.  It also seems as if Bo never told Kenzi what happened between herself and Lauren.  Can't blame her there really.  Kenzi, we love her, but she's not exactly tactful or known to drop things no matter how much someone asks.

Kenzi:  You go.  This food isn't going to eat itself!  LOL

Dyson:  Bo, read a book.
OMG DYSON!  WHY ARE YOU SUCH AN ASS!?!?!

Seriously show, do not have Dyson talk about his super-special feelings for Bo and then have him be a complete asshat for no reason.  It does not add tension to their relationship, it just makes me want to punch him repeatedly in the face until he dies.  Dear Lost Girl, stop trying to wooby-fy this guy!  But if you are incapable of doing that at least do it right and not have him act like a class-A douche most of the time.  *appreciates the Legend of the Seeker writers and deftness with which they handled their characters even more - and I already appreciated it plenty!*

Aw, Kenzi's met someone as tactless as her.  I hope they make out.

Projectile vomit?  Really Lost Girl?  Really?  What's next?  Fart jokes?  It felt like I was watching an episode of Merlin for a minute there. 

Guy to Kenzi:  Joking about accounting fraud is like joking about a bomb on a plane
LOL,  heh.  Maybe not a match made in Fae heaven after all.

And ... saw the Sean reveal coming a mile away.

Based on how douchey Sean's Dark Fae brother was, I'm thinking Dyson chose the wrong side.  He'd fit right in with that asshole.

Kenzi:  Fancied?  Oh my god.
LOL.  Ksenia, you slay me.

Sean:  You're very odd and special. 
That's a pretty damn good description of Kenzi.

Kenzi:  Oh yeah.  Sounds like a disaster.
It's all in the delivery (and Bo's smirk)

It's 9:30 and there's been NO LAUREN AT ALL!  SO SAD! SO VERY VERY SAD!

You know, I think that if Kenzi met Parker from Leverage that they would be BFFs.

Day time drinking, Dyson?  You get more charming every time you're on-screen.

Aw, I hope Sean doesn't actually die.  I like him.

Bo talking about how much she trusts Dyson.  Nice anvil dropping show.  I mean that.  Bo is going to lose her shit when she finds out that he's been lying to her.

Nice parting line Kenzi.  Sean's dad was a clot-pole.

LOL Bo.  "I read it in Trick's book!"  Too bad you didn't read the whole thing, smarty pants.

Speaking of pants, it's 9:40 and there's still no Dr. Hot Pants!  So very, very, very, very sad. 

I wonder if those circles were already carved into Trick's floor, or if defacing his property was one other favor Bo asked for.  Bo is such a high maintainance friend.  For real. 

"Great!  Then, smoke 'em if you got 'em!"  LOL.  Very professional Bo.

Bo:  Gee, thanks.

Bo and Kenzi, you two are adorable.

Well, show you legit managed to surprise me with that alley scene.

Bo/Kenzi snuggles ... both tender and heartbreaking.

So Trick has magic blood?  Interesting.

As for Dyson conflictedness ... no1curr!  Okay, I'm sure some people do care, but I'm not one of them.  Dyson is totally Trick's bitch and lies constantly, and I don't like that he's given all of this screen time to make the audience sympathize with him, while Lauren who is vulnerable and victimized in a way that Dyson isn't, doesn't get the same treatment.  Dyson needs a sassy gay best friend to tell him



Because wolf-boy doesn't have to lie.  Trick isn't going to kill Dyson if he tells Bo the truth.  Trick doesn't own Dyson.  If Dyson tells Bo the truth, you know what will happen ... Bo will know the truth and Trick might act a little bitchy.  That's it.  So why does this Trick's boy get all of the sympathy and benefit of the doubt, when the human slave who faces actual consequences for disobedience (as opposed to losing surrogate daddies love) gets shat on left, right and center.

Psst, show.  You can't have an effective love triangle when 90% of the screen-time is devoted to one pairing,  Your bias is showing and it pisses me off

Preview for next week:

What everyone is the most interested in:  There was a shot of Dr. Lauren in the preview for next week, talking to Bo no less.  But there was only the one shot of her so I'm not sure how large a role she'll have.  One would hope that Bo and Lauren would have to talk about what happened between them in "Vexed" but with this show who the hell knows.  Lauren's curly-ish hair is back though, so that's something.  I liked her curly-ish pilot hair.

Plot: Next week however, there is another succubus in town and it seems like she'll make trying to mack all over Bo.  It also seems like maybe this succubus knows how to bring people back from the dead, which would be a pretty cool power for Bo to develop.  It'll heal something in my heart to be able to type the breath of life again.  Bo will still only have a fraction of Cara's bad-assness, but having the breath of life will be a step in the right direction.

It's seemed pretty obvious that Bo has only started to scratch the surface of what she can do as a succubus, so a Bo Goes to Succubus School episode seems like it should be pretty fun.

Also, the other succubus is a hottie, and the perv in me kind of wants to see Bo being topped.

Date: 2010-11-15 03:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noangel2046.livejournal.com

It's 9:30 and there's been NO LAUREN AT ALL! SO SAD! SO VERY VERY SAD!
NONONONONONONONO!!!!!!!!I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOOOOO LONG!!!What am I suppose to do about that!

You know, I think that if Kenzi met Parker from Leverage that they would be BFFs.
I LOVE PARKER SO FXXKING MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: 2010-11-15 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rtms.livejournal.com
For once Kenzi was actually good. Not hyperactive or annoying as she has been but just normal and good. I was pissed off that they still killed the guy at the end.Not Fair.

So Trick is really the Blood King? So Dyson serves him?

Finally Bo is given a help manual to guide her. This should have been done the moment she found out about the Fae in ep 1.

From the previews it looks like it's business as usual with Lauren and Bo which will piss me off if they don't address what happened.

Date: 2010-11-15 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
It does! I thought that the pain of Lauren-less episodes was over, but apparently no.

*gives side-eye to IMDB*

Date: 2010-11-15 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I know. The lack of Lauren this week was a slap in the face. It was a slap on both sides of the face with a big wad of spit in the face to top off the insult.

And when you see the ep. you'll know the exact scene that prompted the Parker comment

Date: 2010-11-15 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trancer21.livejournal.com
HaHa! I haven't seen the ep yet but I love your Lost Girl posts because I was all 'No Lauren!?! Well, let's skip to fembuck's preview recap'!

You can't have an effective love triangle when 90% of the screen-time is devoted to one pairing..

Seriously. As much as I'm Team Lauren, the show's not doing the greatest job in making her textually an effective rival for Dyson. What I'd *really* like to see, and while I'm still on Team Lauren, is a love interest for Bo who's Dark Fae.. and preferably female. Bo hasn't chosen a side yet and the Dark Fae should be *way* more interested in Bo than they have been. For that matter, Bo should also be way more interested in the Dark Fae since the Light Fae continually prove themselves to be completely untrustworthy.

Date: 2010-11-15 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
For once Kenzi was actually good. Not hyperactive or annoying as she has been but just normal and good.

Hopefully, the writers have settled into a way to write her now without going over the top. She was very funny and Kenzi without being irritating this episode. When she's balanced like this, she's a powerhouse character.

And yeah, I was pissed as hell that they killed the guy too. I actually really like his budding romance with Kenzi (so much better than Kenzi/Hale). The fact that douche-bag brother lived, just bugs me even more because it really makes it seem like this show has a hard-on for douche bags (*looks at Dyson*)

So Trick is really the Blood King? So Dyson serves him?

Damn, I knew I missed something important when I put my dog out in the backyard. *sigh* The episode is repeating right now though so I'll have to make sure to watch that scene this time. I like Trick, so him being a Big Powerful is cool with me.

Finally Bo is given a help manual to guide her. This should have been done the moment she found out about the Fae in ep 1.

I know, right. It's about frakking time. Bo's been pretty irritatingly lacksadaisical about the whole Fae world, only asking questions when it suits her.

From the previews it looks like it's business as usual with Lauren and Bo which will piss me off if they don't address what happened.

Yeah, that's the impression I got from that shot too. They both seemed very calm. Like maybe it's their second meeting in the episode or something so some of the tension has gone, but it wouldn't surprise me if the show had them interact without any follow-up from episode 8.

This might be my 'lack of Lauren' bitterness speaking, but it really doesn't seem like the show gives a shit about the Lauren character at all. More and more the Bo/Lauren is just seeming like an extended cock-block to Bo/Dyson, and as a cock-block its been stunningly poorly executed since the one episode where Lauren really seemed like a threat to Dyson had Bo/Lauren crash and burn (not to mention the fact that it wasn't even a 'real' episode in that they retooled the shit out of almost everything from that demo).

Date: 2010-11-15 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I was all 'No Lauren!?! Well, let's skip to fembuck's preview recap'!


LOL! That's why it's the first thing I post about and IN BIG LETTERS. Lauren is the thing most of us care the most about anyway. Seriously, if I'd known there wouldn't be any Lauren in this episode, I would have taken that nap my body was demanding and caught this on repeat.

Seriously. As much as I'm Team Lauren, the show's not doing the greatest job in making her textually an effective rival for Dyson.

So true. As more episodes air, it really seems more and more like the show doesn't give a shit about the Lauren character, at all. At this point, Bo/Lauren is just seeming like an extended cock-block to Bo/Dyson, and as a cock-block its been stunningly poorly executed. The only episode where Lauren has seemed a true threat to Dyson was last week, and of course that episode ended with Bo/Lauren crashing and burning (not to mention the fact that last week wasn't even a 'real' episode and that they ended up retooling the shit out of almost everything from that demo).

What I'd *really* like to see, and while I'm still on Team Lauren, is a love interest for Bo who's Dark Fae.. and preferably female.

I'd like to see this too. In fact, that's one reason that I'm looking forward to next weeks episode. I'm pretty sure the Lauren next week is going to be negligible again, but the succubus character sounds interesting and she should be a big draw to Bo. She also seems interested in teaching Bo, so as long as they don't make her completely evil (which they probably will) she could be an interesting alternative love interest for while.

*prepares self for the show making her Smirking Evil and having her killed off - probably by Dyson to save Bo, the most damsel-iest heroine ever*

Bo hasn't chosen a side yet and the Dark Fae should be *way* more interested in Bo than they have been. For that matter, Bo should also be way more interested in the Dark Fae since the Light Fae continually prove themselves to be completely untrustworthy.

I would love to see Bo have more of an interest in the Dark Fae, or to see the Dark Fae making an effort to attract Bo (or taking an interest in trying to eliminate Bo). Given how powerful/important Bo is supposed to be, you'd think the Dark Fae would not sit make while the Light Fae get their claws deeper and deeper into her.

Finding out about Dyson's lies might just push Bo in the Dark Fae's direction (kind of mirroring the plot of this episode). But that would be cool, so they probably won't do it.

Bo should also be way more interested in the Dark Fae since the Light Fae continually prove themselves to be completely untrustworthy.

The only problem is that with the exception of Lauren last episode, Bo doesn't know that her Light Fae friends have been lying to her, so she doesn't realize quite how untrustworthy the Light Fae are.

And I'll stop typing now before my current bitterness due to Dyson-overload makes me ramble even more.



Date: 2010-11-15 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] noangel2046.livejournal.com
Gotta wait for 3 more hours,oh I hate to wait!!!
BTW have u seen any of Better off Ted??I have a thing for Veronica,and I've been rewatching it lately.she totally reminds me of Cara,and Portia looks a lot like Tab.

i made lots of screencaps of the show,if you're interested~~
http://www.zorpia.cn/noangel82/album/1441005

Date: 2010-11-15 04:34 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
As I know, Lauren is in 11 eps, though Dyson is in 13 eps...means all eps have Dyson...So if there is no Lauren this week then Lauren should be in the remaining eps as she was already not in previous one ep. That's a good news though.

Date: 2010-11-15 04:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orange-creative.livejournal.com
there is no Dr. Hot Pants in this episode.

WHAT AM I EVEN DOING HERE THEN. Guess that means I'll be commenting on your recap now instead of after I watch the episode (because I like mutually flailing over Lauren).

when the human slave who faces actual consequences for disobedience (as opposed to losing surrogate daddies love) gets shat on left, right and center.

ARGH. Everything about this. There's a legit storyline behind Lauren WE CAN'T UNSEE IT, WRITERS and Dyson would be moderately interesting if he wasn't so infuriating. Most of the time I'm yelling at the monitor "GET OFF MY SCREEN TROLLBAIT DYSON" but he never does.

It'll heal something in my heart to be able to type the breath of life again.

Ha! I just recently likened my love of Lauren as a rebound relationship after losing Cara. *snicker*

the perv in me kind of wants to see Bo being topped.

Seconded!

Also, Lost Girl's love triangle is completely mislabeled. I think Kenzi stands a better chance of upsetting Bo/Dyson than Lauren. Mostly based on the huge lack of screentime Lauren gets. It makes me feel like they see her as a toss-away character.

Date: 2010-11-15 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
There's a legit storyline behind Lauren WE CAN'T UNSEE IT, WRITERS

We can't unsee it, but the writers have proven themselves to be very adept at ignoring the frak out of it. Seriously, they have like no interest in Lauren as a character.

Dyson would be moderately interesting if he wasn't so infuriating.

Honestly, Dyson isn't that bad. I just find him infuriating because there is so much of him and so little of Lauren. If she was getting a balance portrayal like Dyson was, his lying and douchery wouldn't bug me so much. I just hate that the writers are telling me to sympathize with him and feel sorry for him, when Lauren is in a much tougher position and gets 0 time devoted to her struggles.

I just recently likened my love of Lauren as a rebound relationship after losing Cara. *snicker*

I feel like Lauren is a lot of people's nuCara. My hardcore stanning for Lauren comes from the fact that she is filling the Cara-shaped hole in my heart as well. Sadly for us, the Lost Girl writers don't seem to value Lauren the way the LoTS writers valued Cara.

Mostly based on the huge lack of screentime Lauren gets. It makes me feel like they see her as a toss-away character.

This. I really, really felt it this episode. You can't have a series regular competing with a recurring character in any real fashion because the regular character will ALWAYS get more screen-time and that will make that relationship seem more legitimate.

We don't get to see Lauren having a heart to heart with someone talking about how much she cares about Bo, and how hard it is for her to balance her feelings for Bo with her obligations to the Ash. She's like an after-thought, and its hard to buy the show having an afterthought as a real love interest.

I hope the show proves me wrong, but I'm really beginning to doubt that they will.

*sigh* I miss Legend of the Seeker. It was so nice to be able to have faith in a show. To trust that the writers would do the characters and the plot justice. Now I'm just adrift in a sea of disappointment.

Date: 2010-11-15 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] orange-creative.livejournal.com
Thank the good spirits for fanfiction.

Date: 2010-11-15 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
As I know, Lauren is in 11 eps

She can't be though, unless there are more than 13 episodes in the season because she wasn't in episode 3, episode 5 or episode 9.

To save myself the heartache, from now on if I don't see her in the previews, I'm going to assume she won't be in the episode. I'll be ecstatic if Dr. Hot Pants is in all the remaining episodes, I'm just not going to count on it any more.

Date: 2010-11-15 06:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ic1pher.livejournal.com
So why does this Trick's boy get all of the sympathy and benefit of the doubt

Who gives him sympathy and benefit of the doubt? (Haven't watched the episode yet tho) I think they're building his character as an asshole so he can have some actual character growth and conflict, which to me is interesting to watch.

Pffft. Makes me pissed if there's no significant development in Bo/Lauren like really soon. Week is a long time to wait for Dr. Lauren.

Yeah Parker is pretty awesome. Haven't watched Leverage in ages but IIRC Kenzi is basically an immature child as Parker has some actual responsibilities and takes things slightly more serious.

Date: 2010-11-15 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Who gives him sympathy and benefit of the doubt? (Haven't watched the episode yet tho)

Fans. Basically, there are a lot of scenes where Dyson's feelings (love) for Bo are laid out for the audience. Whether you are Team Dyson, Team Lauren, or refuse to pick a team, nobody can say that Dyson doesn't care deeply for/love Bo or that he isn't trying to protect her.

Because of the lack of screen time for Lauren, and the fact that we don't see her interacting meaningfully with anyone besides Bo (the way Dyson has Trick and Hale and even occasionally Kenzi to talk to), there are fans out there that distrust Lauren's motives and are uncertain how she actually feels about Bo. I've never seen any speculation about Dyson being evil, because we've seen enough of him to know that while he can be misguided that his heart is in the right place. I've seen more than a few people speculating about whether Lauren is "evil" however, because non-Team Lauren people haven't seen enough of her to be convinced that her heart is in the right place.

I think they're building his character as an asshole so he can have some actual character growth and conflict, which to me is interesting to watch.

He definitely has his asshole moments, but I don't think the show is trying to set him up as an actual asshole that people are supposed to end up truly disliking because all of his asshole-ness comes from:

a) his struggle to pretend like he only wants to be friends with benefits with Bo, while he is really in lurve with her (something he's being forced to do by Trick).

b) his pissing contest with Lauren over Bo's affections (which I think we're supposed to sympathize with as well, because it's gotta be hard for a guy to see the lady he's in love with flirting with someone else because he's being forced to pretend he doesn't love her for her own good!)

Other than the lying (which the show keeps emphasizing he's doing for Bo's own good!) and the jealously, he's been presented as a fairly stand-up guy. I'd love to believe that the show was setting him up to be a complete asshole who might actually become a villain or something down the road, but I think that the show actually wants us to like him and root for him.

Makes me pissed if there's no significant development in Bo/Lauren like really soon.

Stuff like having no Lauren after what happened in last weeks episode also makes me think that the show is trying to skew viewer opinion in favor of Dyson.

Haven't watched Leverage in ages but IIRC Kenzi is basically an immature child as Parker has some actual responsibilities and takes things slightly more serious.

Kenzi actually showed a bit of a serious side this week. She still wise-cracked and whatnot, but she was also fairly mature. Hopefully this means that the writers have found a balance with the character which was missing in earlier episodes.

Sorry for the rambling response, the inequality in screen time when it comes to Bo/Dyson and Bo/Lauren, and the effect that it's having on my ability to ship Bo/Lauren is a hot button issue with me right now.

Date: 2010-11-15 06:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Honestly, this. I feel like fanfiction is the only way Bo/Lauren shippers are going to see a satisfactory representation of the relationship (or a happy ending).

Date: 2010-11-15 08:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mondoshawan555.livejournal.com
Well, this is very disappointing. I'm starting to think Lauren was originally supposed to have a bigger role in the show and the farther we go the less that demo ep is going to fit in. Boo :'(

Date: 2010-11-15 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ic1pher.livejournal.com
It didn't read rambling at all to me. I see your points.

but I think that the show actually wants us to like him and root for him.

I do like Dyson but it's more credit to the actor than how he's written. The stuff he said to Lauren in the end of episode 7 (was it?) about how Lauren is completely unfeeling... whatever. That sounded so bad and made me see the character as a short-sighted egomaniac. I don't understand how people could see him in any other way.

It's really weird that people see Lauren as evil. If that were actually the case, Zoie would have, in my opinion, taken some really peculiar acting choices in portraying that kind of a character. I guess it's the same effect where Ivy and Rachel can't be seen as anything else but "wonderful friends and nothing but". "They are great friends. They would never work as a couple!" Basically any explanation is better than being gay for each other, and living Happily Ever After.

Date: 2010-11-15 10:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kharrisonfan.livejournal.com
I guess it's the same effect where Ivy and Rachel can't be seen as anything else but "wonderful friends and nothing but". "They are great friends. They would never work as a couple!" Basically any explanation is better than being gay for each other, and living Happily Ever After

I completely agree with this. I despair of the writers allowing a real lasting romantic relationship between Bo & Lauren the same way I despair of Kim Harrison ever letting Ivy & Rachel finally be together as more than friends :'(

Date: 2010-11-15 01:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shalex2885.livejournal.com
Dyson needs a sassy gay best friend to tell him

OR LAFAYETTE. to cook him a burger and give him some speech.

Image

Seriously, I want to smack him SO HARD!

Also, Lost Girl got renewed for 2nd season (http://www.showcase.ca/blog/archive/2010/11/12/lost-girl-renewed.aspx) and there's the thing that pleased me most is that all the comments is about MORE LAUREN and MAKE ZOIE PALMER A REGULAR CAST.

I hear you my Doccubus fellow, I hear you. I hope they can hear us too.

Date: 2010-11-15 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ralst.livejournal.com
Dammit! Okay that's another one for the 'might as well wait' pile. Thanks for the heads-up.

The lack of Lauren is really hampering the show and the supposed love-triangle (obviously not an equilateral one) and fuelling my dislike of Dyson; hell, I don't even need to watch the episode to know he'll piss me off.

I'd kinda like to see succubus number two make a play for Dr. Hot Pants and see if it stirs a reaction in Bo but I guess that's too much to ask.

Date: 2010-11-15 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I do like Dyson but it's more credit to the actor than how he's written

This. Kris Holden-Reid has a calm, coolness to him that makes Dyson pretty neat (when he isn't saying and doing douche-y things, but Dyson says and does douchey things a lot so it's hard to remember that he isn't awful all the time.)

That sounded so bad and made me see the character as a short-sighted egomaniac. I don't understand how people could see him in any other way.

I don't really understand how people don't see him as being a raging asshole either. He'll never really come back in my opinion from the stuff he said about Lauren (especially once it was reveal what Lauren's position in the Light Fae really was). He is a reactive, immature, petty, asshat.

If that were actually the case, Zoie would have, in my opinion, taken some really peculiar acting choices in portraying that kind of a character.

To be honest, I don't understand how people could see Lauren as evil either. Nothing that's she's ever done on the show would lead to that interpretation imo. I've never even understood how people can sometimes describe her as cold or unfeeling either, because she's seemed pretty emotive every time she's been on screen. If anything she comes across as a goodie two shoes, but considering how impulsive everyone else on the show is it's nice to see someone who thinks before they act. Honestly, I think the Lauren hate mostly comes from Dyson stans.

I guess it's the same effect where Ivy and Rachel can't be seen as anything else but "wonderful friends and nothing but". "They are great friends.

This *shudder* The Lauren/Bo situation is reminding too much a certain K.H's cock-blocking and I don't know if I can put myself through this again. Bo isn't quite the manipulative, selfish mind-fucker that Rachel is (and that's saying something because Bo is plenty manipulative and selfish), but I'm already feeling Rachel Morgan levels of irritation with Bo (i.e. wanting Lauren to get a girlfriend who will treat her right while Bo is left with lying, punk-ass bitch Dyson). Just like Ivy, Lauren has put herself in harms way with very little appreciation from Bo, and like Ivy, Lauren is in a position where she is institutionally victimized. At least Bo had the decency not to sleep with a close-human friend of Lauren's while complaining about how dangerous sleeping with humans is. *sigh* Must stop thinking about the Hollows, it will put me in a foul mood and it's already a Monday.

Date: 2010-11-15 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I think you're very right. The demo pilot seemed to be much more balanced in terms of Dyson and Lauren screen time. The demo pilot was the only time in the whole series that we've seen Lauren in a scene without Bo, which leads me to believe that they had planned on giving much more background on her in the beginning, and that she likely would have had her own plot-line involving the Ash based on the demo. The demo was also obviously skewed towards Bo/Lauren epic romance and Bo/Dyson frenemies that could be more.

I have to say, that I liked the show the demo promised much more than what's been delivered.

Epic Boo, Lost Girl. Epic. Boo!

Date: 2010-11-15 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Lafayette, Sassy Gay Best Friend, Dyson just needs someone to sit his ass down and verbally smack him until he stops being such a dick. Because yeah, I almost constantly want to punch him. Everything he does bugs me.

As for the renewal, I'm glad about that and I hope that PTB are actually looking at those comments and realize what a following the Lauren character has. Lauren/Zoie is some people's major draw to the show so they'd be smart to upgrade her status.

Date: 2010-11-15 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
There is no 'love triangle' on this show. There's Bo/Dyson, and then that Doctor that has a crush on Bo who Bo talks to sometimes when she needs something. The show is so Bo/Dyson heavy that its laughable to think that the show actually expects us to believe there is a love triangle. The only episode where Bo/Lauren has seemed like a real possibility was the discarded demo episode which they retooled the shit out of, and clearly in the retooling any real interest in Bo/Lauren went as well.

I was willing to give the show the benefit of the doubt, but not addressing the Bo/Lauren situation after how things went down last episode just really makes it impossible to ignore the fact the show doesn't seem to care about showing Bo/Lauren. I mean half of the 'development' of Bo/Lauren has been off-screen.

So, yeah, I understand Dyson pissing you off because of the amount of screen time he gets. He pisses me off for the same reason (well, that and the fact that he often acts like an asshole).

I'd kinda like to see succubus number two make a play for Dr. Hot Pants and see if it stirs a reaction in Bo but I guess that's too much to ask.

I would LOVE that. However, it would require the show giving a shit about Lauren and/or Bo/Lauren which means it'll never happen. I don't even have enough faith in the show right now to believe that they'll have Bo and Lauren talk about what happened in "Vexed".

Date: 2010-11-15 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_profiterole_/
Douchebag was douchebaggy again this week.

Poor Sean, he was getting reconciled with his brother and all I could think was that he was going to die any minute now, and then, BAM! :-( I have seen this kind of scripts way too often in my life to get tricked any more.

I really liked Kenzi in this episode.

Date: 2010-11-15 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dantzig75.livejournal.com
Great recap! Thanx a lot, a lot, a lot !!

Saperlipopette !
I'm not so sure I want to watch ep. 10. if it means I have to go through another Bo/Dyson tango for 45 mn. On the other hand, NO LAUREN may help me to mend my heart, broken since last week, and go back to real life for a little while.

*huge huge huge sigh*

Yet I'm not that surprised that DrLL was not to be seen. The only time the screenwriter managed to follow coherently the different storylines was in "Vexed". Otherwise, we had Dyson-focused ep. and Lauren-focused ep. Maybe next week will bring a good surprise. Or maybe I should stop believing in Santa Claus...

You can't have an effective love triangle when 90% of the screen-time is devoted to one pairing, Your bias is showing and it pisses me off.

You are so right.
That's the major problem from the start. I still can't understand why Zoie Palmer isn't cast as a regular. Her character is what the show needs, the perfect opposite and complement to Dyson, all the ingredients for good drama are there, sex and sweat all over the place but... NO, let's go back to the overused but soooo secure plot of 'girl-meets-boy". Moreover, one piece of this supposed love triangle is missing : the Lauren/Dyson segment. I still believe those 2 have a lot in common. Such a waste is infuriating!

To be honest, I don't understand how people could see Lauren as evil either.
+1.

Let's see :
- she gave Bo a treatment after the Succubus refused to pick a side ("it could be dangerous for me to even talk to you"),
- she saved Kensi,
- she had to endure Dyson shit while helping SAVE BO and Kensi from the terrrrrrifying cardboard spider,
- she got Bo an appointment with the Ash,
- she helped Bo controlling her anger (and was logically rewarded for this),
- she had sex with Bo without knowing if Bo could efficiently control her anger (in the heat of passion),

while Dyson ... had sex with Bo.

Let's be honest : he spends a lot of time helping Bo with her work, since she is the WORST PI EVER.

Oh, and Lauren is kind (or so it seems). It feels good to have someone who can talk to people without needing to be rude/mean/harsh/insulting. She's discreet, yet she's the most efficient. And each time Lauren/Zoie looks at Bo, the North Pole melts a little more (OK, I'm biaised)

What I'd *really* like to see, and while I'm still on Team Lauren, is a love interest for Bo who's Dark Fae

*threesome + A Darf Fae succubus = foursome? Lucky Bo*

If I may, I'm not so sure another love interest for Bo is the wiser thing to wish for our Succubus, since she already has GREAT difficulties to deal with the ones she has. I'm not even sure she will ever be able to "deal" at all. Everytime one of her lover doesn't act the way SHE wants (i.e : follows his own agenda/needs/motives), she goes to the other. She is sooo very capricious. I don't know if I'd be so willing to give my heart to such a non reliable lover. I know Bo's supposed to be young and have a lot to learn about relationships, but so far she might have sex and fall in love with whoever crosses her path.

Date: 2010-11-15 11:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boomwizard.livejournal.com
What.

NO. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS SHOW'S WRITERS THAT LAUREN DOESN'T EVEN GET BROUGHT UP IN PASSING CONVERSATION AFTER THE ANGST FEST THAT WAS LAST WEEKS EPISODE.

I'm so pissed right now. I agree wholeheartedly about this 'love triangle' being some weak ass shit. They're treating Lauren like a recurring guest star instead of an important character. Is it too much to ask for information about why the hell she's given herself to the Ash in the first place? Inquiring minds want to know. WHY WON'T THE SHOW TELL ME. Lauren is a fantastic, beautiful Woobie and infinitely more interesting than this jerk ass they're turning Dyson into. He used to be bareable, now every time I see him I want to punch him in the face. Or the nuts.

Preferably the nuts.

Date: 2010-11-16 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyandragonfly.livejournal.com
You know, I think that if Kenzi met Parker from Leverage that they would be BFFs.

YES. And Britney from Glee is Parker's sister because her parents survived the explosion. It pisses me off that they manage to have good episodes without Lauren.

Date: 2010-11-16 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
It pisses me off that they manage to have good episodes without Lauren.

They can have good episodes without Lauren, but not great ones. I don't think that I'll ever squee and flail over a Lauren-less episode, not even good ones like "Oh Kappa, My Kappa" and this one. Lauren is what takes episodes to that next level and makes them awesome.

Date: 2010-11-16 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Douchebag was douchebaggy again this week.

For real. He's always a douchebag. I don't think I'll ever really be able to truly stand Dyson again. Every time he does something okay, he follows it up with some kind of punkass behavoir.

I'll admit, I kind of thought that there would be a happy ending until I saw that guy ambling towards them. I just got really caught up in the episode (so kudos to the writers for that), but yeah, I should have seen it coming.

This was a really great Kenzi episode. I think it's the best presentation of Kenzi since episode 3 (I LOVED her in episode 3).

Date: 2010-11-16 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS SHOW'S WRITERS THAT LAUREN DOESN'T EVEN GET BROUGHT UP IN PASSING CONVERSATION

I know! It's like, I'm pretty sure that Bo being all stabby with the sword at the beginning and talking about how she couldn't sleep was supposed to be angst about Lauren, but honestly writers, THAT DOES NOT CUT IT! NOT BY A LONG SHOT! Especially since they had Bo being all fluffy and happy and quippy throughout the episode. She was not acting like someone heartbroken at all. We got to see Bo mopping in bed after Dyson did that barmaid, but for Lauren, not moping or follow through at all.

Seriously "Lost Girl" writers, if you had a face I would punch it!

They're treating Lauren like a recurring guest star instead of an important character.

This. I think when they made the demo they planned on having Lauren be a more central character (that demo is the only episode where we've seen Lauren interacting alone with someone besides Bo), but when they retooled they decided to downplay the character, and in doing so whether intentional or not they've downplayed Bo/Lauren's relationship.

He used to be bareable, now every time I see him I want to punch him in the face.

This. I'm never going to be able to see him as a non-asshat again. Even stuff that should amuse me (like him drinking from that flask on the stake-out with Bo) just irritate me.

Date: 2010-11-16 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
On the other hand, NO LAUREN may help me to mend my heart, broken since last week, and go back to real life for a little while.

I feel this. Last week I was obsessing hardcore about the show. I was thinking about it WAY too much, but after this Lauren-less episode I'm back to awaiting the next episode, but not anxiously awaiting it.

Otherwise, we had Dyson-focused ep. and Lauren-focused ep.

The thing is that even in Lauren-heavy episodes, Dyson has still played a significant role. Whereas in a third of the episodes to date, Lauren has played NO role at all, or a very minimal role (in episode 2 she was on screen for like a minute). So we get plenty of Dyson even in 'Lauren' episodes, but like no significant Lauren for half of the episodes.

while Dyson ... had sex with Bo.

I know, right. When you look at what they've risked personally, Lauren has put far more on the line than Dyson. All Dyson does is fuck Bo and hit things (things he's stronger than so there's no real personal risk to him, while when Lauren was out in the field she had put herself in some real danger for Bo).

It feels good to have someone who can talk to people without needing to be rude/mean/harsh/insulting.

This. Lauren is the only character that has never acted like a douchebag/asshole. She has been consistently decent throughout, even in the face of baseless attacks (like Kenzi's every interaction with her).

And each time Lauren/Zoie looks at Bo, the North Pole melts a little more (OK, I'm biaised)

Biased, but right. Zoie Palmer brings the heat every time she looks at Bo. It's really incredible the longing she is able to project.

She is sooo very capricious. I don't know if I'd be so willing to give my heart to such a non reliable lover.

Bo really is very fickle. Honestly, despite Bo being the one to walk out last episode, Lauren really deserves better. Lauren is the only adult on this show, and Bo's been pretty douchey to her act points. Bo and Dyson are selfish and judgmental in the same way. They almost deserve each other. The thing is that Bo is still learning (whereas Dyson's pretty old and should know better) and Lauren could make Bo a better person, whereas Bo and Dyson just seem to make each other better assholes.

Date: 2010-11-16 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boomwizard.livejournal.com
As soon as I saw that flask I wanted to shove it down his throat. If last weeks Hellcats taught us anything is that alcohol + stakeouts = epic badness. Nothing good can ever come from it.

Also, flasks are tacky. Everybody knows you're drinking, if you need a fancy container for it use a damn paper bag like the hobo you look like, Wolfman.

I saw Bo with all stabby in the beginning and was prepared to hunker down for another violent, mopey Bo episode. Instead we got fluffy Bo/Dyson shenanigans. I AM DISAPPOINT. These kind of relationships would interest me a lot more if they were Bro's. There is not enough het Bro's, ever, and even if there is they always end up ruining it by ~falling in wuv.

TV makes me so angry nowadays. I'm sick of being a minority viewer.

Date: 2010-11-16 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
if you need a fancy container for it use a damn paper bag like the hobo you look like, Wolfman.

LOL! I actually like Dyson's look (I also liked Rob Pattinson in his hobo days with his Paul Bunyan beard), but Dyson is such a dick that Kris Holden-Reid being good looking means nothing to me. Dyson is just such an asshat that no scruffy good-looks will be able to overcome it.

These kind of relationships would interest me a lot more if they were Bro's. There is not enough het Bro's, ever, and even if there is they always end up ruining it by ~falling in wuv.

*sigh* I agree so much. I think that's one of the reason's I like Pete and Myka on Warehouse 13 so much. It's because they are bros and it's clear that they will never hook up even though they love each other, and would do anything to protect each other. If Bo/Dyson were a like a buddy cop team, I would enjoy their dynamic so much more. It would also mean that Bo romantic future could actually be interesting because the abundance of Dyson screen-time wouldn't automatically make Bo/Dyson seem like the show OTP. Because as it is, as the way the show is structured, everyone Bo shows an interest in will automatically end up playing second-fiddle to Dyson.

I'm sick of being a minority viewer.

*sigh* I know. I've become very cynical about TV. Things that I could have handled with some optimism before piss me off now, because I've been around long enough that I know things just always stay the same. F/F will never overcome M/F. The lesbian will be evil and die. Bisexual means for sweepsweek/titillation value, not for an actual sustained relationship on a show, etc. It's like, "Whatever, TV. Whatever."

The only non-cliche thing on the show so far is that Bo and Kenzi haven't fought over a man yet.

Date: 2010-11-16 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyandragonfly.livejournal.com
I agree, though we might be slightly biased on this topic.

Date: 2010-11-16 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boomwizard.livejournal.com
Dyson scares me. Like, there's just something about his face. I think it's actually terrific casting that I just look at him and think WOLF. It's really creepy.

Ugh, god. Pete/Myka. I love everything about that friendship, and I ship it so platonically it's not even funny. On the one hand they seem like they're never going to 'go there' and that makes me so happy I think I could cry. Then you hear rumours about it being endgame and it just makes me rage because every show GOES THERE, and my poor little H.G./Myka* heart breaks a little more.

That's the main thing that bugs me about Dyson (aside from him being a collosal asshat) is that he gets so much screen time when he's really not that interesting of a character. Although I could listen to that voice of his for quite some damn time, NGL.

That last paragraph, just THIS. Everything you said. This is why I love fanfiction so much to the point that fanon ends up ruining canon for me forever because things happen the way that I want them to happen for once.

The female characters don't get killed off to satisfy the slash fangirls.
A guy and a girl can actually be friends and not want to suck each others faces off.
Continuity. CONTINUITY. GET A FUCKING GRASP ON CONTINUITY AND STOP DERAILING YOUR CHARACTERS BEFORE WE SEND SOME BNF'S UP THERE TO SHOW YOU HOW IT'S FUCKING DONE, WRITERS. IT HAPPENED WITH XENA, OKAY.

IT COULD HAPPEN. IT COULD.

The only non-cliche thing on the show so far is that Bo and Kenzi haven't fought over a man yet.

Oh, I'm waiting for it. They're gonna go there, I just know it. Even if it takes some more magic hoodoo like that crazy spider shit, it will come up eventually.


* Like you said, the lesbians are always evil. Also, British people are always evil. So really, H.G. had no freakin' chance.

Date: 2010-11-16 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trickstertroll.livejournal.com
I think that under normal circumstances I would have liked this episode a lot more. Coming after last weeks much more epic episode, however, the whole thing was sort of jarring. When the show was just a creature feature of loosely connected stories it was fun to enjoy the cotton candy nature of it. Seeing what it could have been though - a show with a strong central storyline and much deeper conflict - it's hard to readjust.

That being said, I did really enjoy the abundance of Kenzi time. It was nice to see her interacting with someone for her own sake rather than as Bo's sidekick. Unfortunately, the awesome Kenzi fun really brought down Bo and Dyson's storyline for me. They just seemed so boooooooring comparatively. And trying to keep track of their relationship - are they fighting? Are they friends? - even from one scene to the next makes my head spin. So I was confused and bored at the same time. Not to mention that Bo seemed even more clueless than usual. Almost dumb. Maybe this was so Dyson could be her wise counsel (with an extra dose of ass-ery), but mostly it just made me want to hit both of them.

The lack of Lauren was not completely unexpected or even unreasonable considering last week, but at least a solid reference to what happened would have made a lot more sense. Even if the writers have pretty much shelved pursuing a real "triangle" idea, a little more continuity would be nice.

Again, I really think I wouldn't have even noticed a lot of the things that irked me a bit if it weren't for knowing that it could have been a lot more awesome. Maybe next season will have a chance to get a little more serious, and hopefully give Lauren some actual development outside of the lusty doctor role.

Date: 2010-11-16 11:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madndizzee.livejournal.com
O.o What is this demo pilot and where can I see it?

No Lauren this episode is such a letdown. Where's the resolution?! Bo and Lauren need to talk. I wonder if they are showing some episodes out of order...

Date: 2010-11-16 11:59 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
*Points to episode 8*

It could just be me... I have a feeling many of the episodes have been filmed out of order - there wasn't exactly much, if any, proper transition from episode 8 to 9...

Date: 2010-11-16 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dantzig75.livejournal.com
The thing is that even in Lauren-heavy episodes, Dyson has still played a significant role.

I know.
Honestly, I don't know what to think of all this. One day, my hopes are down because of the different treatment Lauren is given, the following day I can't help feeling Bo/Lauren could be the endgame because "vexed" was almost perfect. All the seeds are there, it cannot just be coincidence. And why victimize a character that much if it's without a purpose? Each Lauren-centered scene brings a new element and yet? ...As I said, I don't know what to think. And seriously, it's driving me crazy.

Lauren really deserves better.
The irony is that as a character, Lauren steals every scene and every ep. she appears in. Lauren is complex, secret, and multi-layered. And so likeable. Sensitive and strong. Where Dyson is merely written, and Bo... I sometimes feel the producers are only interested in having Anna Silk "Succubussing" in every corner.

Biased, but right. Zoie Palmer brings the heat every time she looks at Bo. It's really incredible the longing she is able to project.
I know.

She is really doing a great job at portraying Lauren. She's very subtle. Making us see and FEEL the longing, the desire, the internal struggle. The flirting in ep.4 is killing me (she gives its full meaning to the "eye-sex" thing). I didn't know her before "Lost girl" but I'm so impressed by her acting, that I went through "Instant star" where she plays Patsy. She's great, really.... ok, I stop...

Date: 2010-11-16 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I think that under normal circumstances I would have liked this episode a lot more. Coming after last weeks much more epic episode, however, the whole thing was sort of jarring.

Jarring is such a good word for it. This weeks episode was like coming down off a high. It was like coming back from a feature film to watch one of those SyFy Original movies. It was ... jarring, and honestly a disappointment even though by normal Lost Girl standards it was a good episode.

It was nice to see her interacting with someone for her own sake rather than as Bo's sidekick.

This. It had been bugging me that Kenzi really seemed to have nothing going on outside of Bo for a couple episode, so seeing her with her own plot (that didn't involve her being incredibly stupid like in that foot soup episode) was really nice. Ksenia is good, she can do more than just comedy and the writers should use that.

And trying to keep track of their relationship - are they fighting? Are they friends? - even from one scene to the next makes my head spin.

Oh, I know. There is like no consistency to any of the relationships on this show other than Bo/Kenzi (if we ignore the insta-BFFs thing).

The only sort of positive thing I can note from the abundance of Bo/Dyson screentime this episode is that none of it was overtly romantic. I mean there was no Bo/Dyson nookie (which is like a first), there was no kissing, or overt sexual banter. I don't think they've been this platonic (other than Dyson's stupid, boring longing gazes) since the pilot. The Bo/Lauren shipper in me would like this to be because Bo's so hung up on Lauren that sex with Dyson isn't even registering with her at the moment.

Not to mention that Bo seemed even more clueless than usual. Almost dumb.

Bo, honestly, comes across as dumb most of the time. The only time she's ever been quick on the uptake was last week when she made the jump from Lauren saying, "I'm working on it, I just need a few more hours" to "The Ash ordered you to sleep with me, didn't he? Lying hussy whore!" Figures that would be the one time she didn't display the brain power a cashew nut.

But yeah, Dyson is so stupid that Bo would have to come across as being completely dumb in order for Dyson to seem 'wise'.

but at least a solid reference to what happened would have made a lot more sense.

I know, right. Something really little like Kenzi asking Bo if she Dr. Hot Pants was going to be at Trick's party and Bo glowering at her before muttering "I have no idea" or something like that would have been something. The angry sword swinging just didn't cut it.

Even if the writers have pretty much shelved pursuing a real "triangle" idea, a little more continuity would be nice.

Given that they aired that Lauren/Bo heavy demo I don't think they've shelved it. I just think that they are really inept about developing it (and are clearly more interested in Dyomghe'ssoboringican'teventypehisname and Bo) which is making the 'triangle' seem more and more like just a line leading to BoSon Land.

Maybe next season will have a chance to get a little more serious, and hopefully give Lauren some actual development outside of the lusty doctor role.

This statement is my dream.

Bo

Date: 2010-11-17 02:56 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It would be interesting to see Bo topped by another succubus, but I'm still team lauren.

Date: 2010-11-17 08:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlequeefgirl.livejournal.com
I needs me some Doctor.

Did anyone else notice the red bong on the kitchen table in the scene with kenzie and Sean? Or is that just me tripping balls?

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