The Sarah Connor Chronicles 1x07: "The Demon Hand"

[fembuck]

From now on my nickname for Sarah is going to be Pancakes.

I fuckin love this show.

Summer Glau is perfection.  In the scene with her lacing up those shoes I was like "how is it possible for one person to be so incredibly perfect?"

Pancakes makes pain beautiful.  Seriously, Lena sells pain like there's a Fire Sale going on or something.  She's good man.

BAG can act.

This show withholds hugs masterfully.

The last scene of this episode was perfection.  "...if they can do that they won't have to replace us.  They'll become us" and then the lingering shot of Cameron dancing in the fading light of day.  Seriously, after that scene I don't think there are words enough in the English language to describe my girlcrush on Summer Glau.  I'll be a sap and say it, I had tears in my eyes her dancing was so beautiful, and when I saw Derek's reaction, when you saw the realization in his eyes that whatever Cameron is she is not only a machine, not only a thing, but a conscious being capable of emotion and expressions of beauty, I was ... damn, show.  Damn.

Seriously, I was moved by Brian fucking Austin Green's acting.  You know a show is impressive when that can happen.

Hell, the last 15 minutes of this episode killed me. 

I was totally into Cameron and her girl!crush on Maria, and was all "awww' when Cameron was peaking around the corner watching Maria dance.  The very scary robot from last episode was completely erased from my mind by Summer's doe-eyed awesomeness, and then came the scene when they met up with Dimitri and after completing her mission Cameron just walked away and left Dimitri and hot!Maria to their deaths.  All I could think over and over again was "fuckin hell, Cameron". 

Between the scene in the dance studio and the breakfast scene with Derek and the ending scene with her dancing, this was a whirlwind episode for Cameron that has left me completely and utterly fascinated by her, and scared shitless of her as well.  To have this 'perfect creature' as Sarah called her, that is capable of wonder and expressions of emotion that can also be capable of passionless acts of apathy and cruelty is terrifying.  I mean, she sucks you in with those eyes and that guise of innocence but underneath there is something alien and cold and it's magnificent to watch.

I have to say, I felt like John was being a whiny bitch for most of the episode and when he was all "yeah, I remember it.  It's the day you stopped being my Mom" I wanted to smack that kid upside the head.  However, about a minute later I was all choked up for both him and Sarah.  I thought that scene between them in John's room and then outside together burning the hand was beautiful.  Sarah's voice-over about how she was no longer a hero in his eyes, the shame and desperation for forgiveness that was pouring off of her in the bedroom.  The thigh squeeze.  I was like "John, hug your mother" but at the same time, it's like how fucked up is that situation, how controlled have they had to be for years to just survive and it seemed fitting that even after that moment of bonding there was still distance and pain, because that is there reality.

I love Bruce Davison.  I think he's in like every show produced on television right now, and that's okay by me.  When he was describing the attack on the mental hospital from T2, I was riveted.  Especially when he was talking about T-Arnie reaching out telling John to "Come with [him] if [he] wants to live" and it being like the hand of God.  Damn good acting, and writing.

And the imagery afterwards with the rain, and then later on with Sarah appearing through the fire like some dark angel, holding her hand out to Ellison to save him.  Damn, show.  Damn.

Though I do have a question about the rain thing.  Was it just like a really convenient natural phenomenon, or was the show suggesting that Pancakes is like Storm and can summon weather for dramatic purposes?  It was beautiful, I was just like [Urkel voice] Did Pancakes do that? [/UV]

And for sheer badass-ness, I have to mention the sex on a motorbike and in leather boots that was Cameron.  I just loved that entire sequence.  It was just pure cool.  It was visual porn and I loved it.  From the second they showed her getting off of the bike to the moment she left the evidence room I was just like "this is cool, this is fucking cool, I love this shit.  Cool!"

Hmm, I feel like I should find something to pick on lest I come across as being biased.  Okay, I've got one.  I'm not a purest by any stretch of the imagination, but the recreations of the hospital scenes from T2 made me cry a little.  They just did not live up to the original.  I love Lena, but she didn't manage to get Sarah's crazy and fury and desperation out.  I was all like, "why does Sarah look so well coiffed and lickable?  She should look homicidal and batshit!"   It was mean of the producers to do that to Lena.  It's already hard enough for her being compared to Hamilton already, and to make her try and redo those scenes was just mean.  Hamilton was perfection during the Hospital stuff in T2, you gotta just leave that alone.  You gotta just recognize how awesome that was, and just leave it alone.

Beyond that, I can't even really think right now, I'm so in love with this episode.  I'm sure more will come to me later that I wish I'd written, I mean I think I remember some funny bits from the beginning but I can't even think about it now.

Damn, show.  Damn.

SEASON FINALE?!?!  *SOBS*  *SOBS LOUDER*  Fucking FOX, man, you can't take this away from me already.  I want more!  *CRIES* 

The producers of the show were talking about how they are more interested in the characters then explosions, and about how they respect their audiences intelligence and refuse to dumb down the show at WonderCon, and tonight's episode was a perfect example of that.  Mad respect for the creators and runners of the show.  Mad respect.

If this doesn't get renewed for a second season I am going to go batshit all over the FOX network.  They cannot do this to me again.  I need my Caminator and Pancakes dynamic duo of sexy and violence every week.  I need.

Comments

[hivesix.livejournal.com]

My hands are itching, like literally itching, to computerly-abstractly touch this episode. I NEEDS IT NAO.

I haven't liked a show this much since... SVU? Which now sucks. BSG? Yay BSG. Do you notice that all cool shows can be reduced to awesome three letter acronyms.

Where was I. Yes I am going to go batshit all over the FOX network if they cancel SCC, too, although I've only watched the pilot ep of Firefly so I don't feel the whole FOX injustice thing (plus I live in NZ and I'm used to not getting very many shows that aren't reality TV). Ahh I am so in love with Summer Glau now I don't think I can start watching Firefly without my brain exploding?

Ahh. You have me fangirling by proxy. That's some insane shit right there.

[beatromantic.livejournal.com]

Waves hello.

This episode was f-ing love. Every point you hit the nail on the head. I honestly didn't think Summer could be even more awesome after last week's episode but day-um, she's freaking tight. I seriously think I could watch her dance all the way up until next week's episode. And BAG, yesterday I totally lied to him and told him I loved him on the show so he would sign my poster to say, "Donna Martin graduate" but after today I totally do (love him). This show is making me crazed.

[harper-m.livejournal.com]

so maybe i'm the only one who thought this, but i have this secret hope that cameron was the one who tortured BAG in the future and that, seeing her dancing around to the same haunting piano music that had been playing as when he descended the steps to the basement, the tears were for the guilt he felt at selling out the location of the people in the tunnels who were subsequently killed.

i'm with you on the hospital scenes. linda hamilton was all kinds of crazy in those, and part of what sold it was that she was so incredibly ripped. had she lunged across a table at me, i would have been (justifiably) scared. if lena lunged across a table at me, i'd probably just try to catch her.

in general, i watch this show and giggle like a little girl. not because it's funny, necessarily, but because it delights me in various ways. when ellison was in the kitchen, i kept thinking, "please have that hand in the fridge. please have that hand in the fridge." and look, he did, and it made me happy. and, when bruce d. was laying in the rain, laughing his fool head off, i said to my tv, "he done lost his damn mind." and look, they threw him in the mental hospital. and when cameron was strutting around in her cop outfit (for a moment, i thought they'd gotten confused and were reshowing last night's ep of the l word), i giggled non-stop. with the mirrored sunglasses and the tall, shiny boots, it was like love, all wrapped up and presented just to me. and sarah's reaction when she returned in her get-up, all, "somewhere in an alley, a naked policeman is crying" (or something like that), that was love too. and then there was shoe lacing and dancing, and the love was almost too much to handle.

and yeah, i kind of wanted her to save the ballerina, though mainly i wanted cameron to save her because she thought she was pretty and liked to watch her dance, but i'm very okay with the fact that she didn't. it makes her own recital later in the episode that much more poignant.

and, i'm going to stop rambling now.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I haven't liked a show this much since... SVU? Which now sucks. BSG? Yay BSG. Do you notice that all cool shows can be reduced to awesome three letter acronyms.

Heh. I love SVU and BSG too. Three letter acronyms rock!

Yes I am going to go batshit all over the FOX network if they cancel SCC, too, although I've only watched the pilot ep of Firefly so I don't feel the whole FOX injustice thing

FOX has been screwing me over for more than a decade. Just off the top of my FOX has canceled the following shows that I loved: Kindred: The Embrace, Space: Above and Beyond (one of the best series I've ever watched), The Adventures of Briscoe Country Jr., Dark Angel, The Inside, Wonderfalls, Drive, and of course Firefly. And I'm sure that's not even all of them, those are just the ones that hurt the most.

Fox is fucking evil. I'm convinced that the people in charge of it are demons that feed on the tears of viewers.

I am so in love with Summer Glau now I don't think I can start watching Firefly without my brain exploding?

The best part of this is that River Tam could fucking explode your brain, because she's fucking awesome. Seriously, you need to watch Firefly and then Serenity. It is awesome, and Summer is mesmerizing. The crazy thing is that I find Cameron easier to slash and write than I did River. Despite that however, River is awesome, and you get to see Summer put her awesome dancing skills to use a lot.

[sinandmisery.livejournal.com]

From now on my nickname for Sarah is going to be Pancakes.

Uber win. I actually requested, out loud, that Lena come make me pancakes. I'm quite sure she didn't hear, though...

I loved this ep like whoa & I think you hit all the points I loved. I think this is possibly my fave ep of the season, though I kinda wish they'd have gone more into why Caminator kept the chip. [Side note: Lokenator vs. Caminator. Who wins?]

They cannot do this to me again. I need my Caminator and Pancakes dynamic duo of sexy and violence every week. I need.

Fo' shizz. I rewatched the first few eps of Firefly today and just <3. I can't get my head around how they canceled that show. Oh, wait. It's FOX. They <3 Keifer & horrible singers. I can't knock 'em much, though, because they bring me Emily Deschanel & Hugh Laurie every week and they haven't...I'm not even going to say it for fear of jinxing. But seriously, they cannot cancel this show. I was just saying how I am enjoying this WAY more than Heroes s2 and I was *so* looking forward to that.

PS - Sex on two wheels and in leather boots (aka cop!Cam) should so be in the next fic installment...

[wickedpsychelj.livejournal.com]

Lol, yeah i agree, totally awesome ep. And I was screaming at FOX too; i wasn't expecting the season finale so soon at all!!

By the way as i was reading your comments i was surprised for a bit that you still hadn't mentioned bikercop!Cameron (or as you called it; sex on a motorbike --hail your imagination!), i thought maybe you were having an aneurysm or something for not mentioning it earlier. Ah it was my fav scene until the awesomeness that was the Cameron ballet hotness! (Is there something Summer cant do??)

Anyway thank u for keeping moi entertained with your commentary.

[sinandmisery.livejournal.com]

Also, I was a little disappointed in what was on the tape. I was hoping it'd be more shocking, based on the previews. Maybe showing Derek killing Andy?

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I honestly didn't think Summer could be even more awesome after last week's episode but day-um, she's freaking tight.

She's the tightest (and I don't care if that sounded dirty, because well, most of my thoughts about Summer are). Seriously, she's doing an amazing job with Cameron. Like you said, last episode Cameron was the shit, and this week she was 'even more better' then that!

I seriously think I could watch her dance all the way up until next week's episode.

I honestly did not want the episode to end. It was just mesmerizing. Summer Glau could bring ballet to a whole new generation. *gets misty-eyed* Stay gold, Summer. Stay gold.

And BAG, yesterday I totally lied to him and told him I loved him on the show so he would sign my poster to say, "Donna Martin graduate" but after today I totally do (love him). This show is making me crazed.

LOL! Donna Martin Graduate, niiiiiice. Yeah, I can't believe it but I genuinely enjoyed BAG this week. This is a show that works miracles.

Also, love the Yo-vo-vitch, icon. I only know one other person who pronounces her name properly, and whenever I'm talking to people who are not that one other person, I have to be like "Yo-vo... oh fuck, Milla Jove-o-vitch" and I die a little inside.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

but i have this secret hope that cameron was the one who tortured BAG in the future and that, seeing her dancing around to the same haunting piano music that had been playing as when he descended the steps to the basement, the tears were for the guilt he felt at selling out the location of the people in the tunnels who were subsequently killed.

That would be totally badass. My only fear with that being the case was that it would turn Sarah (even more?) against Cameron, and I need Sarah and Cameron under the same roof. Also Derek's "you've gotta get rid of that thing" speeches have been wearing thin.

I love the idea of her ballet routine making him even more terrified of her. He'd be all like, "Yeah, but, no, but, yeah, but, not but ... she was DANCING!" and Sarah would stare at him like "and they put ME in a psych ward?"

if lena lunged across a table at me, i'd probably just try to catch her.

You have no idea how much this made me laugh, in fact I'm still giggling. So awesome. All episode I kept on noticing how tiny Lena looked. Whenever they had a full body shot of her, I was like "Damn, Pancakes. You tiny!"

in general, i watch this show and giggle like a little girl. not because it's funny, necessarily, but because it delights me in various ways. when ellison was in the kitchen, i kept thinking, "please have that hand in the fridge. please have that hand in the fridge."

This and everything after it ... ftw!

"somewhere in an alley, a naked policeman is crying"

This was the line I was trying to remember. I "bwah'd" out loud at that. Lena's delivery of the snarky lines makes me smile. The way she delivers them, it's like you can picture Sarah thinking in her head "God, I'm funny, I love me".

i wanted cameron to save her because she thought she was pretty and liked to watch her dance, but i'm very okay with the fact that she didn't. it makes her own recital later in the episode that much more poignant.

Total word. She's so confusing, but I love it.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I actually requested, out loud, that Lena come make me pancakes. I'm quite sure she didn't hear, though...

Yeah, domestic Sarah/Lena is hot. I would never sleep in if I had Lena making pancakes for me in the morning. And speaking of pancakes reminds me how much I loved Cameron dragging the plate over to her, taking a bite, swallowing then looking at Derek all "so there ... asshole!". Oh, Cameron.

Oh, wait. It's FOX. They <3 Keifer & horrible singers.

LOL!

I was just saying how I am enjoying this WAY more than Heroes s2 and I was *so* looking forward to that

*sigh* I hated most of season 2, which is horrible because I really liked the first season. I found the second season mostly horrible (part from Ali Larter's hotness of which there was not nearly enough)

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I hadn't seen the previews because CTV is run by butt-monkey's who decided not to play any last week, everything was a revelation to me. Because I didn't know what was going to happen, I kind of liked the reveal. It seems little, but I can see how it was huge to John and it continues this developing change in their relationship.

I look forward to the beat down Derek will get when Sarah finds out about Andy though.

Side note

[keinlurker.livejournal.com]

Just my $0.02 on your side note question -- I vote for Caminator!! Cam is a much more interesting character, IMO, and hawt, too.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

i wasn't expecting the season finale so soon at all!!

I thought there were nine episodes, so I was expecting at least two more weeks of awesome. I wonder if next week's will be a two-hour event?

By the way as i was reading your comments i was surprised for a bit that you still hadn't mentioned bikercop!Cameron (or as you called it; sex on a motorbike --hail your imagination!), i thought maybe you were having an aneurysm or something for not mentioning it earlier.

lol, I know. After rambling forever and then going back up and checking what I'd written I couldn't believe I hadn't mentioned it until the bottom either. The ending just blew my mind so much, that I guess it was like a little aneurysm. I'm better now though, lol

Ah it was my fav scene until the awesomeness that was the Cameron ballet hotness! (Is there something Summer cant do??)

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure I saw a video on youtube of her turning water into wine. She's perfect.


Anyway thank u for keeping moi entertained with your commentary.

Thanks for not thinking I'm a babbling idiot, lol :D

[sinandmisery.livejournal.com]

The FOX previews were all "what's on this tape should NEVER be seen!" *cue dramatic music and Sarah popping the tape in* Therefore, I thought it'd be a little more shocking in a Sarah-centric way...not in a John-centric way. But, meh, it's FOX.

[hivesix.livejournal.com]

I wonder if next week's will be a two-hour event?

It sure will be. I still don't know whether that's a good thing or not.

[hivesix.livejournal.com]

Just off the top of my FOX has canceled the following shows that I loved: Kindred: The Embrace, Space: Above and Beyond (one of the best series I've ever watched), The Adventures of Briscoe Country Jr., Dark Angel, The Inside, Wonderfalls, Drive, and of course Firefly.

I like how I haven't even heard of half of those. More than half, actually; I'm only familiar with Dark Angel and Firefly. Gotta love NZ television. FOX has House though. I'm getting into House again. Like, hello Thirteen.

Seriously, you need to watch Firefly and then Serenity.

I so do. It's so cult it's not even cult any more. I should time it during exams when my brain will explode anyway. Then I can get a medcert and watch more of Summer in the hospital. Summer heals all things!

PS LENA HEADEY.

[bldy-destini.livejournal.com]

Do you really think SArah is against Cameron...or just fighting her inner attraction? Heh...

[sinandmisery.livejournal.com]

s2 sucked a lot. I mean, aside from Ali's hotness & the gaytastic duo of Elle/Claire, there weren't many high points. So disappointing. I have hopes that s3 will not end up with the same fate. I have it on good word that Ali will be returning, so I'm crossing my fingers that she comes back as Jessica. Oh Jessica, how I love thee and the craziness that comes with.

Re: Side note

[sinandmisery.livejournal.com]

I should post this debate on the LJ...

[(Anonymous)]

I'm thinking Sarah wanted John to see the tape. Why else would she bring it home and leave it in plain sight? It was her way of saying "I may be the best warrior, but you have to become better than me."

[ic1pher.livejournal.com]

You all kinda ruined my new avatar.
I so thought it was only my idea, but oh well...

Re: Side note

[keinlurker.livejournal.com]

Yes! Good idea.

Re: Side note

[sinandmisery.livejournal.com]

Tis done.

[geekycanadian86.livejournal.com]

BAG can act

I LOVED the WTF? look on his face when he was watching Cameron dancing at the end. It looked like if you hit him with a brick he wouldn't even flinch he was so dumbfounded. It was so funny.

completing her mission Cameron just walked away and left Dimitri and hot!Maria to their deaths. All I could think over and over again was "fuckin hell, Cameron".

I was stunned. I wasn't expecting her to just leave the dance teacher to be shot to death. Damn, girl.

The first scene with Cameron and hot!dance teacher was perfection. When she looks at Cameron and says, "You're too mechanical (or robotic...whatever it was)", I laughed for a good two minutes afterward. And I have no idea why.

Though I do have a question about the rain thing. Was it just like a really convenient natural phenomenon, or was the show suggesting that Pancakes is like Storm and can summon weather for dramatic purposes?

Whatever it was, I love how you were able to see the fucking SUN SHINING in the background. They did ok until the sun was so fucking obvious.

And for sheer badass-ness, I have to mention the sex on a motorbike and in leather boots that was Cameron.

Damn, Summer looks good in a uniform. I think as a rule most cops aren't supposed to look sexy but daaaaaaammmmmmmnnnnnn.

And damn you, my wife, for getting me hooked on this damn show ;)

[wickedpsychelj.livejournal.com]

Yulp, i am pretty sure its a two hour finale, and it starts an hour before its usual time, so heads up.

Water into wine eh? I knew it!! Excuse me while I go and build a shrine. :)

Damn!

[(Anonymous)]

Cameron in police uniform = drools. Would love to see her in military formal though. Hawt!Uniformed terminator = instant win. I would be happy with any kind of shit they would throw at me, as long as Summer would walk around looking so fine.

I am still /fanwanking that Summer isn't really sent back to help them. The re-use of the music and Cameron actively presueing something she was told was an "expression of the soul" shows a want of being 'human'. Or at least not 100% pure bolts and wire.

Its nagging in my back of my mind that the writers will pull some crazy ass shit with ofc Cameron being in the basement, getting BAG to tell the location of the base. But also that Cameron MIGHT be the big heads up i.e. Skynet or at least one of the top dogs on Robo side. There gotta be a point where the leader of le Terminators go, "hmm what to do when no humans and everything lies in ruins?" and also be fasinated by the human race. Seems a bit BSG to me, but I can totally see the big heads up robo leader(s) wanting to be human and understand them/us.

Its a tiny bit of a stretch, ok maybe a bit more, but with the seeds the writers planted I can't help going /ponders and fanwank.

-BM

[crys-22.livejournal.com]

I was in such high anticipation for this episode that I even watched the ending of that reality show with the lie detector. Man I can't believe what people are willing to do for money, but I digress. This show never fails and it broke my heart a little, to hear that next week is the season finale. I hope Fox doesn't keep us waiting for long to let us know if we're getting our show back next season. And we better!

When I saw Sarah grab that tape from Ellison's house, I couldn't help but think that the tape was an "instructional video" for Cameron. I need help.

Anyway, there was so much great stuff going on this week. I didn't think we would get a Cameron does ballet episode so soon. If it turns out that Cameron or one of her models was doing ballet in the basement they led Derek to, I will just die of laughter. I adore Summer so much, I don't know why I never saw the light before, but I do now. Pretty much every scene she was in I would turn into a puddle of goo like Bruce did in X-men. I love this show!

[trancer21.livejournal.com]

To have this 'perfect creature' as Sarah called her, that is capable of wonder and expressions of emotion that can also be capable of passionless acts of apathy and cruelty is terrifying.

Cameron was awesome this episode. When I saw the previews, I didn't even realize that the 'female Terminator' was Glau! What I find interesting is she is Sarah to the extreme. Where John is Sarah at the other end of the spectrum, Sarah's humanity so to speak, Cameron is that other end - cold, calculating, willing to do what it takes. Cameron frightens Sarah, not because she's a machine, but because she is what Sarah fears she's turning into.

This is not to say that Cameron doesn't have depth or layers. She does. It's being with Sarah and John that will, eventually, give her her humanity. And what happens to Cameron then? What happens when she realizes she *does* have a soul/feelings/emotions?

Sarah's voice-over about how she was no longer a hero in his eyes, the shame and desperation for forgiveness that was pouring off of her in the bedroom.

Oh God, I love the Sarah/John relationship. Although, I think Sarah's wrong. John does think she's a hero, at least, Future!John does. This is pure fanwanking and speculation on my part but I think Future!John's mission is to save his mother, that the reason humanity failed and the machine's won is because Sarah died of cancer. Why else send his mother into the *future*? And I'm totally looking forward to that reveal

Then there's Sarah and, like you said, her guilt and desperation. How she wants to love him like she feels a mother should but can't out of fear that it will make him 'soft'. And yet, it's John's 'softness', his humanity, that makes him the leader that he is. Because, really, what's the point in being the savior of humanity if you don't give a shit who lives or dies.

And, well, if you're gonna nitpick about the movie comparisons, I'll just dip into the shallow end. As in - Sarah's fashion sense. I loved the scarf, it gave me nice Imagine, Me & You/Luce flashbacks. I love that her wardrobe has this retro '80's look to it. It's like Sarah's been concentrating so much on preparing John for the end of the world her fashion sense has been put on pause.. since 1987!!

[plaguetalon.livejournal.com]

Caminator... Camylon... Mmmm, do want S2!

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I did think about how ridiculously stupid it was of her to just leave it in the bag sitting in a middle of the kitchen, and then to have not missed it ALL NIGHT. Maybe there WAS some subconscious self-sabotage going on there.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I will never get tired of that quote. Cam in aviator's is always something I will never grow tired of.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I LOVED the WTF? look on his face when he was watching Cameron dancing at the end. It looked like if you hit him with a brick he wouldn't even flinch he was so dumbfounded. It was so funny.

Yeah, he looked like a strong gust of wind could have blown him over ... or like he was kind of seconds away from throwing up with sadness and traumatization (it's a word now, dammit!)

I was stunned. I wasn't expecting her to just leave the dance teacher to be shot to death. Damn, girl.

Me too! When she walked out of the room I was expecting her to meet the bad guys and kick some ass. When she just walked by I was like "Whaa?" and then I was like "Daaaaamn."

When she looks at Cameron and says, "You're too mechanical (or robotic...whatever it was)", I laughed for a good two minutes afterward. And I have no idea why.

Yeah, I loved that part. I think it was so funny because of how the dance teacher mimicked Cameron's upper body movements. That was some funny shit. I was hoping she could be recurring and like help Cameron discover her humanity through dance (while looking totally hot!)

I think as a rule most cops aren't supposed to look sexy but daaaaaaammmmmmmnnnnnn.

Yeah, I know. People would be jaywalking, and stealing shit all over the place just so that the hot!cops would cuff them like they meant it, lol.

And damn you, my wife, for getting me hooked on this damn show ;)

I'm sure by 'damn you' you, you meant, "thank you, I will sexually pleasure you now" for getting me hooked on this damn show. *wink*

[geekycanadian86.livejournal.com]

I was hoping she could be recurring and like help Cameron discover her humanity through dance (while looking totally hot!)

So was I. But Cameron kinda shot that idea to hell when she let her get killed. Goddamn.

People would be jaywalking, and stealing shit all over the place just so that the hot!cops would cuff them like they meant it, lol.

If it meant getting arrested by a Cameron cop I certainly would!

I'm sure by 'damn you' you, you meant, "thank you, I will sexually pleasure you now" for getting me hooked on this damn show. *wink*

Of course I did! Let's take this to the bedroom now ;)

Re: Damn!

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I would be happy with any kind of shit they would throw at me, as long as Summer would walk around looking so fine.

Summer's hotness really is a reward in and of itself. We're really lucky not only does the show let us look at her being pretty every episode, but that it's also good!

I am still /fanwanking that Summer isn't really sent back to help them. The re-use of the music and Cameron actively presueing something she was told was an "expression of the soul" shows a want of being 'human'. Or at least not 100% pure bolts and wire.

I hope she's been sent back to help them, I like creepy but ultimately good Cameron. I definitely think she had something to do with basement, and I like the idea of some of her old/sadistic programming coming forward ... but only if she's uses her previously evil skills to help out John and Sarah.

There gotta be a point where the leader of le Terminators go, "hmm what to do when no humans and everything lies in ruins?" and also be fasinated by the human race.

I love the idea of Terminator's coming back to learn how to be more human in preparation for the day that they replace us completely, I just can't see Cameron being in on it consciously at least because of how close she is to John. I mean there are billions of us on the planet, and I don't know how the writers would justify her helping to keep alive the two people on the planet that are trying to stop them from ever being created, just to learn how to be human.

Even the Cylons in all of their crazy plans to be more human still nuked the shit out of us because we were a threat.

If Cameron was just into learning to emulate humans, why not kill John's ass and then join a sorority or a reading club or something and learn from random people who are not intent on cybernetic organism genocide?

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I even watched the ending of that reality show with the lie detector.

I had to turn away from that, it was just too painful. Thankfully I made it back in time for the beginning of the show. *sigh* Humanity disgusts me sometimes.

When I saw Sarah grab that tape from Ellison's house, I couldn't help but think that the tape was an "instructional video" for Cameron.

Dude, how sweet would that have been! Role-playing! That cop outfit totally looked like something you'd pick up in a sex shop anyway.

I didn't think we would get a Cameron does ballet episode so soon.

I know, I was like "wow, we didn't waste any time, did we?" but really when you have material like that why not exploit it. I mean, Summer is mad talented, let her show it off. We certainly appreciate it. I hope we get to see more of Cameron dancing too, because it makes me happy.

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I didn't even realize that the 'female Terminator' was Glau!

I know. She looked blonde in the trailer. I was pleasantly surprised that it was her too. I don't want her to lose her uniqueness as everyone's favorite female Terminator (from the TV-verse).

What I find interesting is she is Sarah to the extreme. Where John is Sarah at the other end of the spectrum, Sarah's humanity so to speak, Cameron is that other end - cold, calculating, willing to do what it takes. Cameron frightens Sarah, not because she's a machine, but because she is what Sarah fears she's turning into.

Dude, I think you kind of exploded my mind with this. I'd never really thought of it that way, but it makes Cameron's dynamics with each of them (esp. Sarah) and her development that much more fascinating.

And what happens to Cameron then? What happens when she realizes she *does* have a soul/feelings/emotions?

*rubs hands together* I don't know but I want to find out. This is why FOX can't take this show away from me. I need to find out the answers to these questions, I need to see her develop, and see them all struggle with the ramifications of it. *sigh* I dig this show muchly.

I love the Sarah/John relationship.

Word.

Although, I think Sarah's wrong. John does think she's a hero, at least, Future!John does. This is pure fanwanking and speculation on my part but I think Future!John's mission is to save his mother, that the reason humanity failed and the machine's won is because Sarah died of cancer.

So true. I think that Future!John is convinced that if his mom was around that together they would have been able to figure something out, to do something that would have stopped it all, and that her absence in his life was critical to the fall of humanity. Future!John no doubt has much more perspective, and as much as young John looks up to his mother, I think his future self fully realizes just how incredibly strong Sarah really is/was.

Also, she's his mom. She's his MOM. 'Nuff said. Who wouldn't use a time machine to save their mother from something like that if they could?

How she wants to love him like she feels a mother should but can't out of fear that it will make him 'soft'. And yet, it's John's 'softness', his humanity, that makes him the leader that he is. Because, really, what's the point in being the savior of humanity if you don't give a shit who lives or dies.

John's realized this. I think Sarah is still struggling with it. She's just too scared of losing him. I love that we're seeing their relationship shift and grow now, that they're becoming more equal, because I think John will begin to be able to teach her this. That its not just that he lives, but the type of person he becomes.

I love that her wardrobe has this retro '80's look to it. It's like Sarah's been concentrating so much on preparing John for the end of the world her fashion sense has been put on pause.. since 1987!!

LOL! I love that it was probably Lena who insisted on the scarf as well. I think I remember an interview were Lena said that Luce's wardrobe was pretty much all her, including the scarf love. She rocks the look though, and should keep up the good work if she is influencing Sarah's style. Especially the assrageous jeans.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Me too. I refuse to even think that there won't be one. Refuse.

*whimpers a little bit*

Please let there be one!

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I like how I haven't even heard of half of those. More than half, actually; I'm only familiar with Dark Angel and Firefly. Gotta love NZ television. FOX has House though. I'm getting into House again. Like, hello Thirteen.

Space: Above and Beyond is probably one of favorite series ever. I can watch those episodes again and again. And something is has in common with SCC is the amazing voice-overs. Sarah's thoughts during the show remind me a lot of the stuff on S:AAB. Brilliant show, I'll hate FOX forever for canceling it.

The others were great too, but The Inside only got 13 episodes, Wonderfalls like 9 and Drive like 4, so I would feel bad getting you into them only to yank them away again.

House, is good, I strangely just can't get into though. Not even Olivia Wilde has been able to get me to watch regularly which confuses me deeply. *sigh* If 13 gets a girlfriend on the show, I'll totally be there ... with bells on!

LENA HEADEY!

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

lol. She's definitely just fighting her inner attraction. She needs to just yield to sweet temptation. The friction created then will be ever so more enjoyable!

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Fucking FOX promo monkeys! *sigh* Even the producers of the show were complaining about the way FOX advertised it. The FOX previews I've seen (which isn't a lot since I mostly see the CTV ones which are different) are all action, action, action, tagline, which gives a skewed view of the episodes. Every FOX preview I've seen for this show is misleading.

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Yeah, I should have known not to expect something so intriguing based on FOX's history. They used to do that ALL the time with Tru Calling & The OC (esp. during lesbian sweeps aka Malex)

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Cool it'll be a bell party. I thought it was quite random that all of a sudden there was a "13's bisexual!" party (there are a lot of parties on House), not that I'm complaining but it was random all the same. Made for some fantastic one-liners though, esp at the end. I cracked up so hard it was like I was watching Hayden Christensen try to act.

Oh I wouldn't be surprised if we got those shows out of the blue. The networks here (all two of them; then there's one music channel and one "underground" channel owned by the Aussies) seem to be in the habit of showing cancelled shows like Traveler and they'll be showing Bionic Woman soon. Like, no can do thanks.

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You are right. This show is awesome. This episode was awesome. My faith in this show is fully restored.

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I think his future self fully realizes just how incredibly strong Sarah really is/was.

Yes. That and Future!John lost Sarah at 16. Was unable to stop Skynet and the war with the machines, and was stuck in a bunker for 10 years with a lesbian Clea Duvall. Yeah, if I was a guy, I'd be crying for my mother too!

Who wouldn't use a time machine to save their mother from something like that if they could?

What cracks me up is Future!John is practically moving heaven and earth to save his mother. Kyle Reese, on the other hand, might as well have 'sperm donor' stamped on his forehead!

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I had to turn away from that, it was just too painful.

As I watched, I couldn't help but think how completely dull it would be if I were on the show. They wouldn't have anything remotely interesting to ask me. Unless that is, they ask whether or not I find a lady in a cop outfit and aviator sunglasses hot.

I sure do hope Cameron saved that outfit. You know just in case she has to go undercover again and not at all for role-playing purposes, no, thought never crossed my mind ;)

I mean, Summer is mad talented, let her show it off. We certainly appreciate it.

Yup, I'm not one to complain that's for sure. I even re-watched her scenes from her Angel episode, just so I could watch her dance more. I especially love that she seems to have a real passion for it and it certainly shows. I just read an interview where she said she danced tango for a year, now that I want to see!