A Hollows Post: With 90% more quotes!

[fembuck]

So, I’ve come to the conclusion that nobody expresses how I feel better than someone else.  

Therefore, this is a quotes post!

 

IVY

And even for that do I love you the more:
I am your spaniel; and Demetrius,
The more you beat me, I will fawn on you.
Use me but as your spaniel: spurn me, strike me,
Neglect me, lose me: only give me leave,
Unworthy as I am, to follow you.
What worser place can I beg in your love
And yet a place of high respect with me
Than to be used as you use your dog?
-Williams Shakespeare's A Midnight Summer's Dream

Dear Layla,

For nothing more than the pleasures past I would sacrifice my family, my god, and my own existence, and still you will not move. I am at the end of my mind, I cannot go back and there is nothing in tomorrow (save you) that can attract me beyond today. I have listened to the wind, I have watched the dark brooding clouds, I have felt the earth beneath me for a sign, a gesture, but there is only silence. Why do you hesitate, am I a poor lover, am I ugly, am I too weak, too strong, do you know why? If you want me, take me, I am yours . . . 'If you don't want me, please break the spell that binds me. 'To cage a wild animal is a sin, to tame him is divine. 'my love is yours.'

- John Steinbeck

RACHEL

I want someone who will accept the truth about me and doesn't need protection. If I'm a bitch and a fake, is there nobody who will love a bitch and a fake?
- Graham Greene

Answer:  Yes.  Ivy.

RAVY

What I would say to K.H about the Ravy situation at the moment:

Words, words
Merely words
No matter from
The heart
- Troilus and Cressida, William Shakespeare

Why I’m still reading these books despite my frustration:

Hope is the thing with feathers that perches in the soul, and sings the tune without words, and never stops at all.
-Emily Dickinson

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[trancer21.livejournal.com]

Ivy's Asian heritage, came out of nowhere.

Apropos of nothing, it mildly ticks me off every time Ivy's looks are described as 'softly Asian' 'cuz I like wanna shake Harrison and scream 'ASIA IS A REALLY FUCKING BIG CONTINENT NOT A COUNTRY THE SIZE OF SWITZERLAND'! It's like describing Rachel as 'softly European' when the girl practically has 'Erin Go Bragh' stamped on her forehead! Rachel has lived long enough with Ivy to know a bit more about her 'Asian' heritage. Oh yeah, that would mean Rachel starting a conversation that doesn't revolve around Rachel.

Heh, maybe I should drop that question in the Drama Box. 'Dude, after seven books, shouldn't Rachel know *which* part of Asia Ivy's soft features come from?'.

ETA: I do have to give Harrison props. One of the reasons I *do* like the books is she populates her world with characters of color *without* making it look like tokenism. Which, sadly, is rarer in urban fantasy than it should be. So, thumbs up for that.. just some minor deductions for the continuous 'soft Asian features' crap.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

it mildly ticks me off every time Ivy's looks are described as 'softly Asian' 'cuz I like wanna shake Harrison and scream 'ASIA IS A REALLY FUCKING BIG CONTINENT NOT A COUNTRY THE SIZE OF SWITZERLAND'!

It doesn't matter what part of Asia her families from. Don't you know it's all the same. She's just supposed to look slightly exotic, so that everyone will 'oooh and ahhh' over her.

Rachel has lived long enough with Ivy to know a bit more about her 'Asian' heritage. Oh yeah, that would mean Rachel starting a conversation that doesn't revolve around Rachel.

Oh, but you see, Rachel is being polite when she doesn't ask. Because asking about a vampire's bloodlines is a TURN ON TO VAMPIRES! And, we all know that Rachel would never do anything that would turn Ivy on. She's too careful for that.

I've always thought that bizarre rule was a way to keep them from really getting to know each other in the beginning. It was DWW cock-blockage, but that early on in the series, I was just glad that a F/F attraction was even being acknowledged that I didn't mind the cock-blockage. Now I'm like:



'Dude, after seven books, shouldn't Rachel know *which* part of Asia Ivy's soft features come from?'

Ask. I'm curious since Tamwood is completely unhelpful since Kim made that shit up. Now, I'm not hating here, I actually love the last name Tamwood, with with it's exotic softly Asian leaning, it's just not very helpful.

I'd be curious to see if Kim's even really thought about it.

[trancer21.livejournal.com]

I'd be curious to see if Kim's even really thought about it.

Ha! At this point, I bet she'd just be glad to get a question about Ivy that didn't revolve around Ivy boning Rachel!

Okay, you've convinced me. I'm gonna dip my toes in the 'Drama Box' and ask. Just give me a couple days to ask this as 'politely' as possible because, right now, Rachel's non-descript descriptions of Ivy have an air of, as you said, 'they all look alike to me' and/or 'Asian fetishism'.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

At this point, I bet she'd just be glad to get a question about Ivy that didn't revolve around Ivy boning Rachel!

lol. You're probably right. But I'm kind of glad that everyone and their brother is asking her about Ivy bonin' Rachel. Maybe it will be the Cluex4 that Cock Block needs to stop with the cock-blocking.

Rachel's non-descript descriptions of Ivy have an air of, as you said, 'they all look alike to me' and/or 'Asian fetishism'.

This. I've always felt that at a dinner party, Rachel would introduce Ivy like, "This is Ivy. Tamwood. She's non-threateningly part Asian. Ask her about chopsticks. Go on. She's so good with them."

[runetraverse.livejournal.com]

*raises hand* I think it was mentioned once that Tam was most likely Chinese, with the 'wood' part added in. And not just in that one lovely fic of yours. xD Drama Box, maybe.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Tam was most likely Chinese, with the 'wood' part added in. And not just in that one lovely fic of yours

Yeah, I did a little research before the fic and figured that the Tam part WAS most likely Chinese. But you can Vietnamese with the last name Tam as well. I don't know, after seven books you'd think that Cock Block would have been able to clear that up. It would take like one throw away, "Oh, where'd you get this vase, Ivy?" "It's my Grandmothers. Ming Dynasty. A family heirloom." DONE! Drama Box answers just mean she hasn't put it in the books.

Also, I don't know if you can help me, but I STILL can't figure out how the vampire naming works. Why is Ivy a Tamwood and Erica a Randall. I know Erica took on (their father's?) last name, but like how is it decided which kid gets which last name? And what if there are more than two kids? And is it really anything more than semantics or is Erica really somehow MORE Randall than Tamwood? I is confused about this. Hmm, if you can't help, maybe I should pop on over to the drama box.

[runetraverse.livejournal.com]

Well, from what I know / figured out, the children's last names are given according to the power of the family. The Tamwoods (Piscary) were the strongest and most powerful line, so the firstborn (Ivy) became theirs. Next child in line goes to the other / next most powerful family, so Erica (since she's the secondborn to the same parents) became a Randall. With more kids - well, it'd probably be a combination of politics and whichever family lines were involved that decided their last name. It's not genetic, more to do with status.

If you'll forgive the anime-geek reference, it's a little like the Hyuuga Clan from Naruto. Firstborn = main family and most powerful, secondborn = branch family.