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Hollows/Ravy fans, read at your own risk ...

Drama Box Question
THi Kim!!! Since its April 1, I can ask my question about WWBC, although its not really a spoiler. Anyway, when Rachel is picking up her brother that the airport, she sees a woman greeting her partner with their children. Then she is sad that her and Ivy's relationship will never be recognized like that. First, awesome scene and a nod to other families. Second, how can Rachel not want to be with Ivy after a thought like that? Seriously, people don't have those kind of thoughts about normal friends. Honestly, I think that Rachel is just so scared she would lose Ivy that she is not even letting herself consider the possibility. Look at how their auras merged to become one in ODW. Ok, I'm done stating my case for time being. smile.gif I'm lovin' the book!!!~Indy

Cock-Blocks Answer
4/1/09 -- Hi, Indy. It's complicated. Rachel is smart enough to know that some things come with so many attachments, that to follow them will lead to disaster. Yes, you can try, but at some point, it's going to fall apart. Ivy is my tragic figure, and she will be happy when I'm done even if I have to kill her to do it. (just kidding) Ivy will be happy, but it won't be with Rachel. And Rachel is going to have to live with that. --Kim

My Response
That sounds pretty conclusive to me.




The nicest thing I can say is, at least she finally manned up and has stopped intentionally fucking with the hopes of Ravy fans.

So, on the one hand ... I'm free! I no longer do I have to worry about how I'm going to get through 6 more books. The answer: I don't! I'm done. I'm retiring from the stage. Adios. Sayonara. Goodbye. And, there's something in having that resolved at least. A clean break and all that.

Mostly, I'm feeling like this towards Cock Block however:
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Because, while she didn't owe me a Ravy ending to the series, she made me hope for it, and for books, and books, and books was tease about the whole fucking thing and so ...




Thanks for the memories!  It was good for a while between us bb, but it got ugly real fast!  Buh-bye.


*gets ready to start programming my brain into believing, utterly and completely, that the series ended with book five*

Looks like it's strictly fanficly from now on ... my heart is sad, but I guess my wallet can rest easy.

*sigh*

So, yeah ... there's that.


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Date: 2009-04-01 10:47 pm (UTC)
dhamphir: (morgan)
From: [personal profile] dhamphir
Thanks for the info... now I KNOW I won't bother with the books.

Date: 2009-04-01 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_slutknot_/
Image (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v638/_slutknot_/?action=view&current=fred.jpg)

Date: 2009-04-01 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-stanleyt.livejournal.com
Awww *hug*

Date: 2009-04-01 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ralst.livejournal.com
I take this as a sign from the universe that you need to write an alternative book six with a happy Ravy ending.

Date: 2009-04-01 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madndizzee.livejournal.com
crap! i'm definitely not reading anymore of the series then. fanfics please!

Date: 2009-04-01 11:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trancer21.livejournal.com
WOW!! I just.. wow! I'm gonna need time to process this because, yeah, nice to see she, after contemplating whether to piss or get off the pot, decided to take the 'piss' route. And, like you, I can now make a clean break from the series. But..

I can feel an epic rant coming on! At the moment I'm just too gobsmacked to actually get pissed!

Date: 2009-04-01 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] onlyjustwhisper.livejournal.com
*is very cross* That sucks!
I'm seconding the people saying that you need to write an alternative ending!!

Date: 2009-04-01 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostingeekdom.livejournal.com
Ok. I'm done with this.

Date: 2009-04-01 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] su-bones.livejournal.com
Fuck her, the woman is crazy and can't make up her mind...I personally wouldn't be too surprised if she ended up changing her mind again!! And where the hell did she possibly get the idea that Ivy can be happy with someone other than Rache? Doesn't she know that it's herself that has been writing Ivy so freaking in love with Rachel that it makes it really reaally hard to believe she can be happy without the (most of the time) adorably stupid redhead?

*sigh* Okay, enough with my rant ;P

And so...there's always, like you said, the fanficly route ;) I seriously hope a good writer (*cough*that means you*cough*) gives us Ravy fans the pleasure of getting a happy ending. You know, a continuation of book 5, etc?? Please? ........ *g*

I'm off to bed now, where at least there I Ravy can have all the happy endings I want them to, without KH interfering, and where I can erm...enjoy said happy endings...x)

bye bye

Date: 2009-04-01 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wishing-wounds.livejournal.com
Yech, disappointing. Kim's obviously mercurial, though, so I don't know how much stock to put into her random conclusions.

Eh, at least there's fanfic.

Date: 2009-04-02 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ic1pher.livejournal.com
The perfection is strong with this one. Comment: A, Avatar: A+ :)

Date: 2009-04-02 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angharad_gov.livejournal.com
thanks for the info. i'm halfway through ODW and have been half reading and half not 'cos of the stuff i'm reading/ learning through your posts.

i'm done with it too. buh-bye. won't even finish ODW. really don't care. really don't want to go through 6 more books (or however many more it is going end up) of endless teasing from CockBlock McG. i'm glad i just borrowed the ones i did read from the library than wasted $$ on this stuff.

Date: 2009-04-02 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amikana.livejournal.com
how terribly unsatisfying.

and confusing. ivy is the "tragic figure" but ends up happy while rachel has to "live with" the fact that ivy is happy, but not with her? i'm not sure i understand how that is supposed to make sense...

this feels like such a cop out. :(

Date: 2009-04-02 02:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hypno-ninja.livejournal.com
I ignore anything said on April Fools.

Date: 2009-04-02 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vjb2006.livejournal.com
On the upside, no-one needs to worry about any clash between their fanfic and canon, now do they? 'Cause she's essentially given the community free rein to create the canon they want, so I prefer to think of it as a somewhat perverse freedom :)

Date: 2009-04-02 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
'Cause she's essentially given the community free rein to create the canon they want, so I prefer to think of it as a somewhat perverse freedom :)

I totes understand this feeling. That's kind of how I feel now. It's like I'm freed from the fuckery that is canon, and I can go where I want with the characters without having to deal with Cock Blocks random cock-blockery getting in the way.

Though, I have to say, I would have preferred to see the relationship legitimized in canon. It's like subtext is great, but everyone once in a while you really, really wish you could have just text. This series could have been something special for a lot of people, but now it's just another disappointment. I would have followed it to the end if there was going to be Ravy, but I'm not interested if it's not going to happen. Ravy is what kept me in this, so without it, I'm out.

Date: 2009-04-02 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I'd like to believe that it was an April Fools joke. But I don't. And if it was, I think I'd boycott the series anyway just for Cock Block being such a douche. Mentally fucking with fans for your own amusement, does not make me want to spend my money to help pay for your new pool.

Date: 2009-04-02 03:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
ivy is the "tragic figure" but ends up happy while rachel has to "live with" the fact that ivy is happy, but not with her? i'm not sure i understand how that is supposed to make sense...

Oh, I know! It's ridiculous. "Rachel is going to have to live with that?" What the fuck? It goes back to what [livejournal.com profile] trancer21 was saying about everything being about Rachel all the time because Rachel is the most perfectest, most specialest, most awesomest person ever. Fuck that, "Rachel will have to deal with that shit", if they don't get together it's because Rachel has actively worked for the entire series to shit on Ivy's feelings for her. So fuck her angst at Ivy finally moving on with someone who loves her. "Rachel will just have to learn to live with that" ARGH!

The very existence of that sentence irritates the fuck out of me.

Date: 2009-04-02 03:49 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
well that just blows... I feel like she chickened out of the relationship developing further. what a butt. :(

Date: 2009-04-02 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vjb2006.livejournal.com
Oh absolutely with you on this - it would be lovely to see a ff couple that didn't come equipped with serenading strings and long soulful shots through vaselined lenses but instead featured two pig-headed modern women making it work both because of and in spite of their inherent traits.

In the absence of that however I'd prefer that KH clearly declare she's not going there and then get out of the way!

Date: 2009-04-02 03:59 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I've been lurking around your LJ for ages, but now I really do feel I should say something...

You're so right!
*sighs*


Oh yes, and before I forget,
Don't ever stop writing!


Hugs,
Aeleorn






Date: 2009-04-02 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Don't. Just save yourself the pain. There's no reason to get started knowing that you are going to be disappointed.

Date: 2009-04-02 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Truly a picture is worth a thousand words.

I understand this completely. I feel like I could eat my own face in an attempt to clamp down on my disappointment.

Date: 2009-04-02 04:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Thanks, lol.

I'm taking this all way to hard, I know.

Date: 2009-04-02 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Don't read anymore of it. Stop. Be free.

If we continue reading we're only setting ourselves up for disappointment. In Cock Block I do not trust.
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