And that's a good thing?

[fembuck]

Okay, so putting aside the fact that I lurve the Khase for a moment, I just can't understand the arugments made by Marcus/Krista shipper's as to why the relationship is so dreamy and wonderful. I can understand the people's who's argument for like Krista/Marcus is "I like bad boys and Marcus is hot and I like the dysfunctionality of it" because they're admitting the M/K relationship is screwed up and dark but they find that interesting. Marcus is a good looking guy and appeal of bad boy/girls is totally understandable (see: my undying love for Chase).


"I don't have a problem with Marcus and Krista, despite the awful things he has done to her. There are plenty of real world examples of abusive relationships or of lovers hurting one another."

Um, and that's a good thing? Just because people are in abusive relationships in real life that's no reason that it should be celebrated on tv even if the characters are vampires! I mean really. Should the show turn a pimp (cause he did whore Chase out ya'll)/dealer/abusive boyfriend into leading man? Hell to the no. That argument right there is all that needs to be said against Marcus/Krista. If you want to show how horrible Marcus is and how he should be reviled and ashed for treating Krista that way, okay, but he should not been written/presented as some swoon worthy leading man when by the M/K's shipper's own acknowledgement he's an abuser and they're in an abusive relationship

*mind boogles*

"Plus it speaks to the conflicted nature and emotions of Krista right now."

Once again, this makes him seem even more reprehensible. She's confused and vulnerable and he's exploiting that. I mean perhaps if he had turned her away two episodes ago citing that neither of them were in the right frame of mind, or that it was just the visions and bloodlust that were making her act that way, it might have at least set the stage for Marcus seeming like he actually cared about Krista instead of just wanted to bang her. But he doesn't do that, he just takes what he wants like always by exploiting the uncertainty and vulnerablity in her that he was responsible for. And that's a good thing?


"But let's be honest, Marcus and Krista have both done a lot more than have sex-which was one time. But look at all the development and things that have happened to each over the season, way before the role in the hay."

Yeah, a lot more has happened between them. Like he killed her twin brother, he had her kidnapped, strapped her down and forcibly injected her with his blood before throwing her off a building. Then once he had successfully turned her into a blood craving addict his first gift to her was to have her kill a man, and then after that he showed a complete lack of common curtesy by constantly busting in on her while she was half dressed. But he DIDN'T want to bothered helping her transition other that making long ass speeches, instead he gave that job to his assistant to do because it was boring and he didn't care as long as Chase got Krista in a bloodlust froth that would lead her to his bed. Then he sends her on missions where she might die, but doesn't really have any meaningful conversations with her. And then when she's clearly having serious problems he beats her, drugs her, forces memories upon her and sleeps with her.

Yeah, that's tons of development. Though mostly that development has been developing Marcus as as evil, selfish prick instead of developing a real relationship between him and Krista. And that evil, selfish prick development applies to his relationship with Chase as well, so it's really an all around prickitude instead of just with Krista.

"They've both changed, and their tryst will change them more."

Yep, Krista became a blood thirsty killer that was out hunting people. And Marcus ... didn't change at all. Apparently after they got busy Krista just left and he was all 'smell ya later' without asking where she was going because he had no clue where she was when Chase dropped by to see him. He might have seemed like he gave a shit if he'd asked "Is Krista back from hunting yet, I haven't seen her" but instead he had absolutely no idea what was going on.

"Krista and Marcus's revelations have shed more light on their characters and set them up to go in different directions."

Yeah, like showing us that Krista should run in the opposite direction to wherever Marcus is going if she doesn't want to continue being victimized and exploited.

Like call me silly, this argument makes me hate the ship even more instead of drawing me over to the darkside.

Comments

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Part of the reason I love Khase, aside from the hot girls aspect, is because it has the darkness and dysfunction, the complexity the Krista/Marcus ship severely lacks.

Totally agree. Chase and Krista is complex, and dysfunctional but intriging. Plus, the writers have managed to make Chase more sympathetic through story telling than they've managed to do with Marcus with his very special 'feel sorry for me' episode. Chase has actually bonded with Krista, she's chosen Krista over self-promotion (not letting her die in the warehouse), she's shown concern about Krista's well being (her look of worry in the Leichen blood bath), and the writers have hinted at her having a very good reason for wanted to be a badass. Chase embraced her vampireness (slowly) in order to survive, in order to ensure that she wouldn't be victimized again. Now Chase is by no means perfect, and would need to change her behavior to be a good match for Krista, but the foundation is at least there and Chase has shown her affection for Krista with actions unlike Marcus who talks a big talk but then goes on to hurt her more.

Because, well, just because Marcus' wife was raped and murdered a hundred years ago doesn't make him any less of a douchebag today.

So true. What happened to Isobel makes him an even bigger douchebag today in my opinion. He has bascially taken Damek's place in Krista's life which makes him even more of a smarmy little piece of shit.

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..but the foundation is at least there and Chase has shown her affection for Krista with actions unlike Marcus who talks a big talk but then goes on to hurt her more.

Exactly. There's such a disconnect between Marcus' actions and his alleged romantic motivations (what TPTB want me to think), and yet the conflict is being played out between Chase and Krista. If Marcus turned her, without permission, then he should be the one guiding Krista, not Chase. As it stands now, Chase is the one doing all the dirty work while Marcus twiddles his thumbs and takes credit for the results.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Marcus twiddles his thumbs and takes credit for the results.

Finger twiddling asshat. It's like I'm sorry, you can send Chase out to like kill ashers and get your car detailed or whatever, but you cannot have Chase form a foundation for your relationship with someone else. And that's exactly what he's done. It's like "Chase, deal with her" and Chase has which is why Krista's most meaningful relationship is with Chase at the moment. Chase is the one who has protected her, and guided her, hell Chase has even dressed her. And Marcus ... sits in his tasteful office twiddling his thumbs or like playing The Sims: Chthon Vol. 3 or something.

Also, by "Chase is the one doing all the dirty work", you well Krista right? ;)