And that's a good thing?
Sep. 2nd, 2006 06:30 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
fembuckOkay, so putting aside the fact that I lurve the Khase for a moment, I just can't understand the arugments made by Marcus/Krista shipper's as to why the relationship is so dreamy and wonderful. I can understand the people's who's argument for like Krista/Marcus is "I like bad boys and Marcus is hot and I like the dysfunctionality of it" because they're admitting the M/K relationship is screwed up and dark but they find that interesting. Marcus is a good looking guy and appeal of bad boy/girls is totally understandable (see: my undying love for Chase).
"I don't have a problem with Marcus and Krista, despite the awful things he has done to her. There are plenty of real world examples of abusive relationships or of lovers hurting one another."
Um, and that's a good thing? Just because people are in abusive relationships in real life that's no reason that it should be celebrated on tv even if the characters are vampires! I mean really. Should the show turn a pimp (cause he did whore Chase out ya'll)/dealer/abusive boyfriend into leading man? Hell to the no. That argument right there is all that needs to be said against Marcus/Krista. If you want to show how horrible Marcus is and how he should be reviled and ashed for treating Krista that way, okay, but he should not been written/presented as some swoon worthy leading man when by the M/K's shipper's own acknowledgement he's an abuser and they're in an abusive relationship
*mind boogles*
"Plus it speaks to the conflicted nature and emotions of Krista right now."
Once again, this makes him seem even more reprehensible. She's confused and vulnerable and he's exploiting that. I mean perhaps if he had turned her away two episodes ago citing that neither of them were in the right frame of mind, or that it was just the visions and bloodlust that were making her act that way, it might have at least set the stage for Marcus seeming like he actually cared about Krista instead of just wanted to bang her. But he doesn't do that, he just takes what he wants like always by exploiting the uncertainty and vulnerablity in her that he was responsible for. And that's a good thing?
"But let's be honest, Marcus and Krista have both done a lot more than have sex-which was one time. But look at all the development and things that have happened to each over the season, way before the role in the hay."
Yeah, a lot more has happened between them. Like he killed her twin brother, he had her kidnapped, strapped her down and forcibly injected her with his blood before throwing her off a building. Then once he had successfully turned her into a blood craving addict his first gift to her was to have her kill a man, and then after that he showed a complete lack of common curtesy by constantly busting in on her while she was half dressed. But he DIDN'T want to bothered helping her transition other that making long ass speeches, instead he gave that job to his assistant to do because it was boring and he didn't care as long as Chase got Krista in a bloodlust froth that would lead her to his bed. Then he sends her on missions where she might die, but doesn't really have any meaningful conversations with her. And then when she's clearly having serious problems he beats her, drugs her, forces memories upon her and sleeps with her.
Yeah, that's tons of development. Though mostly that development has been developing Marcus as as evil, selfish prick instead of developing a real relationship between him and Krista. And that evil, selfish prick development applies to his relationship with Chase as well, so it's really an all around prickitude instead of just with Krista.
"They've both changed, and their tryst will change them more."
Yep, Krista became a blood thirsty killer that was out hunting people. And Marcus ... didn't change at all. Apparently after they got busy Krista just left and he was all 'smell ya later' without asking where she was going because he had no clue where she was when Chase dropped by to see him. He might have seemed like he gave a shit if he'd asked "Is Krista back from hunting yet, I haven't seen her" but instead he had absolutely no idea what was going on.
"Krista and Marcus's revelations have shed more light on their characters and set them up to go in different directions."
Yeah, like showing us that Krista should run in the opposite direction to wherever Marcus is going if she doesn't want to continue being victimized and exploited.
Like call me silly, this argument makes me hate the ship even more instead of drawing me over to the darkside.
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Date: 2006-09-03 06:18 am (UTC)But true love? That's like stuffing a viper and a mongoose in the same basket and saying "oh, they fight because they like each other." WTF?!? The whole basis for Krista's character is that - while being intensely driven and stubborn WAY past the point of being pig-headed - she's ended up being caught between what she knows is right and what the vampire instincts tell her. So even if she did 'love' Marcus (and I use the term loosely here), it would be because her blood-bond with him and her instincts made it happen. NOT because of any actual emotion.
As for him, he's a stupid whiner who needs to either shape up or just frigging die. Not even my WORST villian has ever had his idiocy. xD
*takes deep breath* Ahhh, much better. Now, if only it were time for the new ep already. ^^
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Date: 2006-09-03 07:02 am (UTC)[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/Mage_of_Illuzen/Karcus.jpg[/IMG]
Not sure how well this worked out, first attempt at an icon - but I just had to do it after the Karcus comment. xD
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Date: 2006-09-03 07:06 am (UTC)Damnit, used the wrong tags. ^^;
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Date: 2006-09-03 07:26 am (UTC)Word. Like Karcus if the writers had taken a different direction could have been interesting (might still be) but they have to get away from the 'tru wuv' of it all and focus it on dark, twisted and unhealthy. Like because of the blood bond they have I can see Krista still being attracted to him though she also hates him. How awesome would it be to have to take out her hate on him by like whipping him or beating him up in sexual situations or something. Like totally femdoming him and cursing him and herself for what they're doing. Like I wouldn't like to see that forever, but it would be a good step in her resolving her issues about him and being a vampire and would allow the pretty people to makeout before Karcus died for reals.
That's like stuffing a viper and a mongoose in the same basket and saying "oh, they fight because they like each other." WTF?!?
Brilliant.
As for him, he's a stupid whiner who needs to either shape up or just frigging die. Not even my WORST villian has ever had his idiocy. xD
I know! His plan makes no sense. He's a bad planner. He plans things badly. And he's so fucking smug about his idiotic plan which is just infuriating. Honestly I can't get my mind around what he hope to accomplish with the pureblood killing version of Aurora. He would have been so much better off just working on improving the formula Fritz was given and becoming virtually invulnerable.
Like I just don't see how the new Aurora is going to kill all the purebloods. If purebloods really are like aristocrats they're probably used to plots against their lives and attempted coups (even if the last one was like 300 years before many of them would still remember), and with three purebloods having gone missing I'd think there is no way he's going to be able to get them all in one room to wipe them all out. And if he only wipes out some, you gotta think the other purebloods are gonna be hella pissed and rain holy hell down on him for it.
Beyond that, I'm sure that there are many vampires who like the purebloods or at the very least don't have a problem and wouldn't like someone capsizing the boat because of a personal vendetta.
Bad, bad plan.
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Date: 2006-09-03 07:54 am (UTC)There's another thing I don't understand - why *did* Marcus stop with the vampire invincibility cure? Like, okay, now you've killed all the Purebloods, maybe you wanna make yourself a bit stronger due to all the other vamps who just might be a tad pissed off at what you've done, or want to take you over.
But, back to Marcus being a bad planner. At least with Deacon Frost, Deacon didn't want to just become the Blood God. He wanted to become the Blood God.. then take over the world. Which would be a bad thing for Blade. What's Marcus' endgame other than killing those bad, evil Purebloods?
For some reason, thinking about Marcus makes me think about Nathan Stark over on Eureka. Sure, they're both douchebags but at least over on Eureka, Nathan's what Marcus is *supposed* to be - a smart man with his finger in every pot, and while he might not have all the answers, at least you know he's actually *thinking* about them. Plus, he snarks. Which is a hundred times hotter than Marcus's 'the yacht clubs closed today' snooty pout.
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Date: 2006-09-03 08:13 am (UTC)Exactly, he should have continued work on Aurora for a couple more years and configured it so that it would kill purebloods if they tried to take it (kind of like the current version, only infected vamps get powers like Fritz) that way he could have manufactoring plants all over the place and the purebloods couldn't do anything about it without risking killing themselves. End result, Marcus and the infected take over and purebloods then have to serve under them and they can sip pina coladas on the beach and laugh. Or at the very least the purebloods are in hiding, and Marcus has a Chthon army of superpowered vamps which he uses to maintain control of his new empire or something.
For some reason, thinking about Marcus makes me think about Nathan Stark over on Eureka. Sure, they're both douchebags but at least over on Eureka, Nathan's what Marcus is *supposed* to be - a smart man with his finger in every pot, and while he might not have all the answers, at least you know he's actually *thinking* about them. Plus, he snarks. Which is a hundred times hotter than Marcus's 'the yacht clubs closed today' snooty pout.
yahct clubs closed today snooty pout, lol. Too hilarious and true.
Dreamy sigh, Nathan Stark. I love me some Nathan Stark, love him. Not as much as I love me so Jo Lupo, but Jo Lupo love is like in another category all together. Stark is totally smooth, handsome, charming and smart like the writers tell me Marcus is suppose to be but I don't see. Like if Stark were in the same position I'd know that there were like 5 different angles to Aurora I wasn't seeing and that there were probably just as many contingency plans in place. With Marcus ... snooty thumb twiddling.
*takes a moment to imagine what Marcus could've been like with Ed Quinn playing him. And ... still a douchebag, but one with actual charm and smarts which really is better*
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Date: 2006-09-03 08:27 am (UTC)I know. Which makes me wonder where the Hell he was when they cast the role of Marcus. At least with Nathan, while he's obsessed with whatever's in Section 5, we still see him supervising other projects. What does Marcus do - he's either sitting in his office (twiddling his thumbs) or hanging out with the geeks in the science lab.
Plus, if they'd hired Quinn I'd be all - 'Krista, before you stake him in the heart, if you're not gonna ride him until his eyeballs roll into the back of his head, I'll totally do it for you!'. That and with Quinn, I'd totally *know* he was banging Sabine in between reorganizing his tie rack.
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