And that's a good thing?

[fembuck]

Okay, so putting aside the fact that I lurve the Khase for a moment, I just can't understand the arugments made by Marcus/Krista shipper's as to why the relationship is so dreamy and wonderful. I can understand the people's who's argument for like Krista/Marcus is "I like bad boys and Marcus is hot and I like the dysfunctionality of it" because they're admitting the M/K relationship is screwed up and dark but they find that interesting. Marcus is a good looking guy and appeal of bad boy/girls is totally understandable (see: my undying love for Chase).


"I don't have a problem with Marcus and Krista, despite the awful things he has done to her. There are plenty of real world examples of abusive relationships or of lovers hurting one another."

Um, and that's a good thing? Just because people are in abusive relationships in real life that's no reason that it should be celebrated on tv even if the characters are vampires! I mean really. Should the show turn a pimp (cause he did whore Chase out ya'll)/dealer/abusive boyfriend into leading man? Hell to the no. That argument right there is all that needs to be said against Marcus/Krista. If you want to show how horrible Marcus is and how he should be reviled and ashed for treating Krista that way, okay, but he should not been written/presented as some swoon worthy leading man when by the M/K's shipper's own acknowledgement he's an abuser and they're in an abusive relationship

*mind boogles*

"Plus it speaks to the conflicted nature and emotions of Krista right now."

Once again, this makes him seem even more reprehensible. She's confused and vulnerable and he's exploiting that. I mean perhaps if he had turned her away two episodes ago citing that neither of them were in the right frame of mind, or that it was just the visions and bloodlust that were making her act that way, it might have at least set the stage for Marcus seeming like he actually cared about Krista instead of just wanted to bang her. But he doesn't do that, he just takes what he wants like always by exploiting the uncertainty and vulnerablity in her that he was responsible for. And that's a good thing?


"But let's be honest, Marcus and Krista have both done a lot more than have sex-which was one time. But look at all the development and things that have happened to each over the season, way before the role in the hay."

Yeah, a lot more has happened between them. Like he killed her twin brother, he had her kidnapped, strapped her down and forcibly injected her with his blood before throwing her off a building. Then once he had successfully turned her into a blood craving addict his first gift to her was to have her kill a man, and then after that he showed a complete lack of common curtesy by constantly busting in on her while she was half dressed. But he DIDN'T want to bothered helping her transition other that making long ass speeches, instead he gave that job to his assistant to do because it was boring and he didn't care as long as Chase got Krista in a bloodlust froth that would lead her to his bed. Then he sends her on missions where she might die, but doesn't really have any meaningful conversations with her. And then when she's clearly having serious problems he beats her, drugs her, forces memories upon her and sleeps with her.

Yeah, that's tons of development. Though mostly that development has been developing Marcus as as evil, selfish prick instead of developing a real relationship between him and Krista. And that evil, selfish prick development applies to his relationship with Chase as well, so it's really an all around prickitude instead of just with Krista.

"They've both changed, and their tryst will change them more."

Yep, Krista became a blood thirsty killer that was out hunting people. And Marcus ... didn't change at all. Apparently after they got busy Krista just left and he was all 'smell ya later' without asking where she was going because he had no clue where she was when Chase dropped by to see him. He might have seemed like he gave a shit if he'd asked "Is Krista back from hunting yet, I haven't seen her" but instead he had absolutely no idea what was going on.

"Krista and Marcus's revelations have shed more light on their characters and set them up to go in different directions."

Yeah, like showing us that Krista should run in the opposite direction to wherever Marcus is going if she doesn't want to continue being victimized and exploited.

Like call me silly, this argument makes me hate the ship even more instead of drawing me over to the darkside.

Comments

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I'm holding out hope that TPTB realize Karcus isn't a healthy relationship and won't have them be soulmates.

All we can do is hope and pray (*shudders* at the thought of Karcus being soulmate material, *vomits*).

And from next weeks previews she's informing Blade about his plans, so she's not under his thrall.

Thank god! The only time I've seen someone under thrall, and it was totally hilarious and IT WORKED FOR THE STORYLINE IN THE EPISODE (singular, non-plural! take notes writers!), was Xander under Dracula's thrall.

I hoping this soulmates thing is going to be shown as being Marcus' deluded fantasy that Krista is disgusted by but willing to exploit in order to bring him down.

She did tell Blade she was just working undercover when she slept with Marcus. I'm desperately hoping she actually meant it and wasn't just saying it.

This is a special talent you have, bringing up points that make me hate Marcus even more.

A special talent? Cool! I always thought my special talent was that I'm talentless! I feel so giddy.

but that line is infuriating. Once again everything Is. About. Marcus. Once again he shows a total disregard for Krista's feelings, and makes it all about what he feels, and what he wants. He's destroyed her life and he expects that she should feel sorry for him?

He was so manipulating her. He's all "woe is me. my unlife is so messed up, just like when I was human. cuddle me. make me feel better by sleeping with me". GAG. I just wanna cut him up into little pieces, scatter him around so that I will occasionally step in him and make him squish. That would so make my day.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

(*shudders* at the thought of Karcus being soulmate material, *vomits*).


Save me a bucket cause I'll be tossing right along with you if that's the course they take.

Thank god! The only time I've seen someone under thrall, and it was totally hilarious and IT WORKED FOR THE STORYLINE IN THE EPISODE (singular, non-plural! take notes writers!), was Xander under Dracula's thrall.

lol. Dark Master...bater. Buffy vs. Dracula was awesome.

She did tell Blade she was just working undercover when she slept with Marcus. I'm desperately hoping she actually meant it and wasn't just saying it.

I think she was just saying that because she was under his thrall and she gained nothing by sleeping with him in Angels and Demons. But I do think that from now on it will be the truth. No more thrall, just cold, hateful calculation.

I just wanna cut him up into little pieces, scatter him around so that I will occasionally step in him and make him squish. That would so make my day.

Note to self: don't mess with geekcanadian86 unless you want to get cut. Seriously that's awesome. That's the best revenge curse I've heard since Servilia on Rome, only Marcus totally deserves anything he gets (whereas I really don't want Atia to be raped by dogs)

[geekycanadian86.livejournal.com]

Save me a bucket cause I'll be tossing right along with you if that's the course they take.

I've got plenty of spares. I've got one for anyone else that wants to vomit right along with us.

lol. Dark Master...bater. Buffy vs. Dracula was awesome.

It totally was. Xander in all his bug eating, butt-monkey glory.

I think she was just saying that because she was under his thrall and she gained nothing by sleeping with him in Angels and Demons. But I do think that from now on it will be the truth. No more thrall, just cold, hateful calculation

I'm afraid you're right with the first point. Almost makes me wanna cry. I so hope that last bit is true. *mental note: never drink Marcus' blood. Side effects include: low sense of self, loss of family and friends, loss of sanity, mind and body. Side effects were experinced by all and were considered severe to extreme. Take with caution.

Note to self: don't mess with geekcanadian86 unless you want to get cut. Seriously that's awesome. That's the best revenge curse I've heard since Servilia on Rome, only Marcus totally deserves anything he gets

I would never get pissed at you. Unless you did something really, really dumb, lol. I use it all the time on things that REALLY piss me off; like rapists and child molesters. Kinda says something about Marcus if I'm putting him in the same category as those...god I can't even think of a word worse enough to describe them.

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I just wanted to try out my new icon. I loves it. *pets it* Anyone know where I can find a good anti-Spuffy icon? I'll love you forever, lol.