And that's a good thing?

[fembuck]

Okay, so putting aside the fact that I lurve the Khase for a moment, I just can't understand the arugments made by Marcus/Krista shipper's as to why the relationship is so dreamy and wonderful. I can understand the people's who's argument for like Krista/Marcus is "I like bad boys and Marcus is hot and I like the dysfunctionality of it" because they're admitting the M/K relationship is screwed up and dark but they find that interesting. Marcus is a good looking guy and appeal of bad boy/girls is totally understandable (see: my undying love for Chase).


"I don't have a problem with Marcus and Krista, despite the awful things he has done to her. There are plenty of real world examples of abusive relationships or of lovers hurting one another."

Um, and that's a good thing? Just because people are in abusive relationships in real life that's no reason that it should be celebrated on tv even if the characters are vampires! I mean really. Should the show turn a pimp (cause he did whore Chase out ya'll)/dealer/abusive boyfriend into leading man? Hell to the no. That argument right there is all that needs to be said against Marcus/Krista. If you want to show how horrible Marcus is and how he should be reviled and ashed for treating Krista that way, okay, but he should not been written/presented as some swoon worthy leading man when by the M/K's shipper's own acknowledgement he's an abuser and they're in an abusive relationship

*mind boogles*

"Plus it speaks to the conflicted nature and emotions of Krista right now."

Once again, this makes him seem even more reprehensible. She's confused and vulnerable and he's exploiting that. I mean perhaps if he had turned her away two episodes ago citing that neither of them were in the right frame of mind, or that it was just the visions and bloodlust that were making her act that way, it might have at least set the stage for Marcus seeming like he actually cared about Krista instead of just wanted to bang her. But he doesn't do that, he just takes what he wants like always by exploiting the uncertainty and vulnerablity in her that he was responsible for. And that's a good thing?


"But let's be honest, Marcus and Krista have both done a lot more than have sex-which was one time. But look at all the development and things that have happened to each over the season, way before the role in the hay."

Yeah, a lot more has happened between them. Like he killed her twin brother, he had her kidnapped, strapped her down and forcibly injected her with his blood before throwing her off a building. Then once he had successfully turned her into a blood craving addict his first gift to her was to have her kill a man, and then after that he showed a complete lack of common curtesy by constantly busting in on her while she was half dressed. But he DIDN'T want to bothered helping her transition other that making long ass speeches, instead he gave that job to his assistant to do because it was boring and he didn't care as long as Chase got Krista in a bloodlust froth that would lead her to his bed. Then he sends her on missions where she might die, but doesn't really have any meaningful conversations with her. And then when she's clearly having serious problems he beats her, drugs her, forces memories upon her and sleeps with her.

Yeah, that's tons of development. Though mostly that development has been developing Marcus as as evil, selfish prick instead of developing a real relationship between him and Krista. And that evil, selfish prick development applies to his relationship with Chase as well, so it's really an all around prickitude instead of just with Krista.

"They've both changed, and their tryst will change them more."

Yep, Krista became a blood thirsty killer that was out hunting people. And Marcus ... didn't change at all. Apparently after they got busy Krista just left and he was all 'smell ya later' without asking where she was going because he had no clue where she was when Chase dropped by to see him. He might have seemed like he gave a shit if he'd asked "Is Krista back from hunting yet, I haven't seen her" but instead he had absolutely no idea what was going on.

"Krista and Marcus's revelations have shed more light on their characters and set them up to go in different directions."

Yeah, like showing us that Krista should run in the opposite direction to wherever Marcus is going if she doesn't want to continue being victimized and exploited.

Like call me silly, this argument makes me hate the ship even more instead of drawing me over to the darkside.

Comments

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*shudders* the pilot was baaaadd. Next to 'Angels & Demons', the Pilot is *the* last episode I'd use to lure people into watching the show.

So true. It's a painful catch-22 though because there was a lot of information given in the pilot that you need to understand what comes after it, so I've shown the pilot to friends with the disclaimer that it's the weakest episode of the series by far and that they have to watch at least the second and third episodes before they judge it. But it took a lot of badgering to get them to watch the second episode after the pilot.

Oh definitely, out of my three favorite shows this summer (Blade, Eureka, Life on Mars) this is the one I look forward to the most. I nitpick it to Hell and back because I love. But they definitely have a bad case of 'first season-itus'.

Oh me too! I ramble on about it, and notice things to nitpick because I love it enough to really think about it and rewatch episodes. Really the nitpicking is a testiment to how much I like it because I wouldn't care enough to complain about it if I wasn't invested in it.

But they definitely have a bad case of 'first season-itus'.

lol. Someone needs to come up with a pill or ointment to take care of that.

I think TPTB are smart enough to figure out what went wrong. I just hope Spiketv gives them the chance to do it right.

I heartily agree. I can't say how many excellent shows I've watched have been cancelled because it took them a few episodes to find an audience. I'm still heartbroken over Space Above and Beyond, Firefly, and The Inside to name just a few. Plus, its SpikeTV it's not like the have a bunch of great original programming to take it's place. The rating are going up (due to word of mouth after the horrible pilot turned people off), they've managed to pull in a female audience which they didn't anticipate, and nobody needs to see more "The World's Most ___________________" or "V.I.P.", Star Trek TNG reruns or "Ultimate Fighter". Give like one hour a week to something other shows that were good 10 years ago, and car chases.