Blade the Series - 1x11 - "Monsters"
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Random note: I loved AsianCamper's hair. It was cool.
Finally we learn about the conclave. But Marcus said something about 1 down 5 to go, so he can't be talking about taking out all of the purebloods. He must be talking about just the Chthon Pureblood Council. So I still have no idea what his overall plan is. Does he want to take over the council? Because his coven in Detriot can't be all there is of Chthon vampires and I'm sure the other Chthonians would be none too please about Marcus gasing everyone and declaring himself King of the
Man, where was that community center located? Mayberry ... or HappyShinyFantasyLand? Oh well, it didn't stay happy and shiny for long. Charlotte on the ceiling was some cool shit however. And the vampire masacre was tres creepy. Also, Charlotte is a total fucking bad-ass, what with the creating her own army of bodyguards out of the community center staff and all. Holy that's an evil little girl. PancakeMom was pretty hilarious too. "You dented my mini-van!" or maybe "Nobody said you could go for seconds!" I will also never get tired of seeing Charlotte crawl around like a little monkey girl all over everything. Awesome. Almost as good as Charlotte crying pretending to be a frightened little girl. For some reason Charlotte saying "Daddy" is creepy as hell.
Charlotte totally read Blade wrong though, she couldn't have been more wrong about him on the most wrongingest day of the year with an electrified wronging machine. R.I.P. Charlotte. I'll miss you. You were way scarier the MoneyBags has ever been.
The Krista/Marcus/Chase triangle is going strong and as effing boring as ever, but OMG! The ZoomInOfDeath on the locket Marcus gave Krista was the BEST! You could practically hear the 'knife stabbing' music to go along with Chase's glare.
Well, at least TPTB aren't shying away from showing Marcus as the bad guy anymore. I liked that they finally had Krista SEE him do something deliciously evil without blinking an eye. It's one thing to know intellectually that he's a bad guy, but after Marcus' 'pity me' visions of angst, I think it was necessary for her to see this side of him. The side of him that kills people just to make a point (it wasn't even to feed to survive, he was just being a bully). I think it's a good thing Marcus got his groove on before that little display because I don't think Krista would have wanted to play after it.
Also, who knew that dragging a mop could be so ominous.
R.I.P Collins ... Blade the Series went there again! Damn, man they kill off like two regular guest star. Boo, but then again that's what Blade the Series does ... it goes there.
Unless it's actually Khase kissage! BOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOO monu-fucking-mental BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Maybe Marcus is right to be so fucking arrogant because it seems like everything IS about him. Did I already say BOO! Effing misleading promos, they just stayed enemies with more inappropriate touching on Chase's part (though it is kind of amusing how Krista doesn't even react anymore. It's like "being fondled by Chase ... must be a week day).
Also totally not impressed by the fact that Chase was just a stoogie once again cleaning up Marcus' split milk and acting like a jealous housewife. Go eat the women on Westeria Lane, Chase! No more Desperate Housevampires over on Blade the Series, please! K, thanks.
Whatever, the promo for next week looked good but I'm fucking bitter right now. I'm actually gonna go do work for tomorrow *sticks tongue out at Blade the Series*
Quotation Love:
Krista: "Really? I hardly notice when you're gone."
Blade: "And you're not that smart."
Charlotte: "I will be in a moment." Charlotte you are sooooo freaky.
Shen: "He does. They anger him." Shen-erific snark
Blade: "There's me and there's vampires. I kill 'em and they die." Oh Blade, you sure do have a way with words.
Krista: "Yeah, sometimes so much you come to my room unasked." LOL. So true.
Krista: "So this would be you getting to know me better?" BWAH! And then ewwwwwwwwww.
Collins: "Jesus!" Like every one of the times he said it
Charlotte: "Faster. It'll be light soon. Put me down." Oh, so cute her piddly little legs can't walk fast enough
Blade: "How about you see how long you can go without asking me a question."
Blade: [On Collins using the name Jessica to log in to the FBI computer] "Oh unless you had some kind of operation" Blade, oh my god you are on fire tonight!
Blade: [about Familiars] "I call them targets."
Collins: "Hey Lurch!" Love you Collins.
Krista: "Doesn't anyone knock in this place?" Finally she asks the question we've all been wondering about.
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Date: 2006-09-07 03:15 am (UTC)*sigh* I guess it was too much to ask that there weren't actual monkeys working in the promotions department.
Heh, and once again, I've spoiled myself silly by reading your LJ. This week? Was totally a good thing!
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Date: 2006-09-07 03:22 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-09-07 03:29 am (UTC)Such a misleading promo. It's like the way the scene played out was what I was expecting from it when I saw the promo last week, but then they ran those new ones with that "Chase and Krista become more than just enemies" bullshit and it made it sound like there was actually a shift in their relationship, when really it was more of the same old. Truthfully, the way the scene played the kiss was just a ratings stunt and wasn't at all needed in the scene (and for me to say that I would have rather had no kiss than that bullshit is pretty significant)
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Date: 2006-09-07 05:52 am (UTC)However, I still have to wait to see the eppy. *sigh*
So is that it? Chase comes in, threatens Krista and kisses her and leaves? Was it about Marcus specifically?
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Date: 2006-09-07 11:07 am (UTC)However, I still have to wait to see the eppy. *sigh*
This would be awesome, I need something to wipe the horrible memories away. And Krista was gone for 36 hours during Blade's detox, so maybe Chase is angry that Krista didn't tell her where she was going after they'd gotten closer, and then jealous that Krista is spending all of her time with Marcus once coming back (thus taking HER place by his side, and abandoning HER for Marcus) or something.
So is that it? Chase comes in, threatens Krista and kisses her and leaves? Was it about Marcus specifically?
That's basically the entire scene. Krista walks out of the shower and goes into the closet (oh the irony), and when she's standing there she senses someone else in the room and turns to see Chase sitting morosely on a chair. She asks if no one knocks around there, and Chase says she did but Krista didn't answer. Krista says she was in the shower, and Chase says yeah for a very long time (the I think there's some kind of insinuation about what Krista was doing in there in that comment, lol), and then Chase proceeds on with her speech about how Krista is just a second rate Isobel and Marcus doesn't actually care about her (which is a valid enough point), then she says something about Krista refusing all of the overtures of friendship she overed her, then says that with the changes coming Krista doesn't want her as an enemy. Krista snarks "We'll see" or something like that and then Chase leans in kisses her briefly mutters something about Krista not taking to long to decide and then walks away.
What to the ever.
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Date: 2006-09-07 04:09 am (UTC)Re: Rune
Date: 2006-09-07 04:15 am (UTC)*glares at Blade the Series for wimping out*
I mean seriously, they show baby eating, but Chase and Krista being on screen together and NOT fighting over Marcus is like impossible for them to comprehend
*blows raspberry*
Re: Rune
Date: 2006-09-07 04:21 am (UTC)They can all take a walk out Marcus' penthouse window. *joins in the raspberry-blowing*
Re: Rune
Date: 2006-09-07 06:22 am (UTC)*sigh* I just knew they wouldn't have the balls.
What is it with sex that just gives TV people in the US the screaming willies. I mean I remember the blow up over Janet Jackson's nipple or whatever, and people here in NZ were having a good old chuckle at how over the top the reaction was over a titty. There is nothing wrong with a bit of bums and boobs on telly. It's like you can have as much violence and degradation you want on tv, as long as two gals or guys don't kiss and look like they like it! *oh no!* Of course there are shows like Queer as Folk which push those boundaries, but it still amuses me how skittish/prudish some of the viewing public (and therefore the TV execs) can be about something as natural and intergral to life as sex is.
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Date: 2006-09-07 06:46 am (UTC)If Blade's not pushing boundaries in regards to sex and nudity - it's not because of Spiketv. We've already seen Chase's
stuntass, some words you definitely won't hear on network tv, strippers grinding on poles and people (not Krista/Marcus) bumping uglies. I don't know if anyone's asked about Spike's standards and practices over on the official boards because, right now, it feels like TPTB are holding back instead of just going for it and cutting out what they can't air. I hope I'm wrong on this, but it certainly doesn't feel like it.Which reminds me - why didn't we get a Krista stunt ass, dammit?
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Date: 2006-09-07 11:13 am (UTC)I can't say how many times I've wondered about this myself. I mean I just don't see what the big deal is (and that Janet Jackson thing was ridiculous. I mean I live in Canada and we were like 'hee funny. now shut up about it, it was just a boobie ... with a tassel on it'). It's ridiculous.
But I think Rune is right and it has more with Spike just choosing not to go there then not being able to go there. I've seen steamer lesbian kisses than that on primetime network shows, so while we were never going to get an L Word style romp, they certainly weren't held back from making the scene slightly erotic. No, it was TPTB deciding that everything has to be about Marcus all the time, and that women can't interact with each other without being total bitches to one another (total bitches who hate each others guts, yet kiss for no reason other than its titilating).
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Date: 2006-09-07 06:28 am (UTC)As for the main storyline arc, next to Angels & Demons, weakest arc episode yet. And just shows how rushed TPTB probably were because it only works if everyone's collective IQ, except Blade, drops by about 100 points to work. So, let me get this straight, Blade is smart enough to figure out that he needs to make sure everyone on the plane died but Marcus is all '*snooty pout* I planted the bomb, of *course* they're dead! Hey Krista, wanna makeout *snootypout*'!?! Some evil mastermind, yo. At least Charlotte was smart enough to call the House and tell them of Marcus' plans. Sadly, no one's going to put two and two together by next week 'cuz the previews certainly show that Marcus' plan succeeds. And what the Hell happened to Glynis' two assistants? Bad plotting, PTB, bad plotting.
Plus, why the Hell didn't Charlotte just hide in a locker until sundown?
So, is it written in Jill Wagner's contract that she must be either a) in a shower, b) semi-nude or c) walk in slow-motion in the world's most boobtastic top? Not that I'm complaining or anything.
As for the Khase makeoutage, like you had the promo monkeys at Spiketv not aired that entirely *misleading* promo, it was the kind of scene I totally would have expected. Because, really, I love that Krista doesn't even try to get dressed first before having it out with Chase. And, once again, it's Chase who dresses her. But, after everything they've been through, to make it All About Marcus!?! Once again, bad plotting PTB, bad plotting. Even then, it's not so much bad plotting because the seeds have been planted since the pilot, it's just soo pedestrian. Like, all the avenues they could have taken with the Krista/Chase relationship and it boils down to 'jealous ex-girlfriend'!?! WTF!?! Which leads me to believe they're using Chase as a foil for Krista to make Marcus not look so bad.
Although, I must admit, I did get a kick out of Marcus actually being evil this episode. If I were the architect, I'd fuck up the ventilation system out of spite - now wouldn't *that* be an unexpected surprise?
And why are we learning about this Conclave crap eleven episodes into the season? More importantly, why should I care?
Just in case it sounds like I'm starting to hate this show, I don't. The two hippie campers? Were listed in the credits as 'Crunchy Dude' and 'Crunchy Dudette'. Hee!
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Date: 2006-09-07 07:16 am (UTC)Snarky Blade was fun, too. And yay for final emotional depth, even if it was at Collins' expense. Damnit, I liked him. Especially in this episode. Though the bit where Charolette got to him was so freaking heavy-handed. It's like "Okay, we get the symbolism, he can't kill the little girl that looks like his daughter, just shut the hell up already."
And dear gawd, no more Chase / Krista snark about Marcus! *bangs head against the desk* It wasn't bad as scenes go - somehow, it was better written than the Karcus roll in the hay - but thanks to the promos, I was too pissed to enjoy it completely. Part of me just kept screaming "screw him already, you two are so into each other it's not even funny!" And the promos for the finale, with the two of them fighting? I swear, if they do the "jealous girlfriend bitch fight" I'm gonna kick someone's ass.
*giggles like an idiot* Oooo, I so have to check the credits again. Crunchy Dude and Crunchy Dudette are PERFECT. xDDDD
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Date: 2006-09-07 03:56 pm (UTC)I will, too, but I was on the phone last night with my girl, Wolfy, and I was like it's "Vampire Foreplay".........I sure hope that's true, though!! =)
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Date: 2006-09-07 11:34 am (UTC)Total agreement. I throughly enjoyed Blade this episode. He was totally on fire with the one liners and bad-assness tonight. Blade was my favorite part of this episode and if they can keep up this level of semi-characterization they might actually be able to make their title character the focus of the show instead of MoneyBags and his idiotic plans.
So, let me get this straight, Blade is smart enough to figure out that he needs to make sure everyone on the plane died but Marcus is all '*snooty pout* I planted the bomb, of *course* they're dead! Hey Krista, wanna makeout *snootypout*'!?! Some evil mastermind, yo. At least Charlotte was smart enough to call the House and tell them of Marcus' plans. Sadly, no one's going to put two and two together by next week 'cuz the previews certainly show that Marcus' plan succeeds. And what the Hell happened to Glynis' two assistants? Bad plotting, PTB, bad plotting.
snootypout, lol. And so true. I thought Marcus' gloating to Chase about his brilliant plan to blow up Charlotte's plane was ridiculous. It's like she's a vampire, if she wasn't caught in the initial blast and was still alive when the plane went down its entirely possible she could still be alive. I couldn't believe that he didn't even send like one guy out to check. I mean he's got enough people milling around that place seemingly doing nothing but looking good. Couldn't they look good while checking out the wreckage? And yeah, I agree with you that nothing will come of Charlotte making that phone call. I mean I think the purebloods will be all pissy at Marcus for trying to kill Charlotte but no one it seems has connected him to Damek or Alex (what? how? I don't know) so I don't think they'll be expecting him to try and wipe them all out. In fact, my fear is - because TPTB have such hardon's for Marcus - that the purebloods will like respect his initiative in trying to get rid of Charlotte or something and he'll be rewarded with her position on the council or something. *shudders at the thought*
Plus, why the Hell didn't Charlotte just hide in a locker until sundown?
Good idea. She's tiny enough. She could've sent Thorne to like another building to throw anyone off her scent and just like hung out and took a nap or something until nightfall when he came to get her.
So, is it written in Jill Wagner's contract that she must be either a) in a shower, b) semi-nude or c) walk in slow-motion in the world's most boobtastic top? Not that I'm complaining or anything.
I think so. Let's hope this doesn't get changed when she renegotiates if the series gets picked up (which I still really really want it to despite my bitching)
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Date: 2006-09-07 11:35 am (UTC)As for the Khase makeoutage, like you had the promo monkeys at Spiketv not aired that entirely *misleading* promo, it was the kind of scene I totally would have expected.
Exactly! This type of mob/kiss of death/intimidation thing was exactly the type of scene I was expecting this time last week. But then they aired that promo with the lingering romantic shots along with that voice-over and I thought "maybe" and got really on board with the idea. I still would have had a problem with Chase being so pathetically desperate this episode, but at least that scene wouldn't have disappointed me so completely.
I love that Krista doesn't even try to get dressed first before having it out with Chase. And, once again, it's Chase who dresses her.
Chase must do drop by's more often then we've seen because Krista didn't even blink. She didn't eve try to cover up like she's so used to Chase being around her naked that it's a non-issue. I even like how she kinda lifted her arm to help Chase get the robe on like they'd been through the routine dozens of times or something!
Once again, bad plotting PTB, bad plotting. Even then, it's not so much bad plotting because the seeds have been planted since the pilot, it's just soo pedestrian.
Pedestrian is so right. It's like they weren't even trying. They've done so many interesting things with the 'world' of this show, but it's like they're incapable of writing female interactions that aren't based on petty jealousy. It's like I'm not saying that I actually expected them to make Krista and Chase a couple, but there was so much that they could have done with their relationship (which they seemed to start doing with Chase mentoring her) and then it's like they got bored and just went for jealous ex route. Lazy.
Although, I must admit, I did get a kick out of Marcus actually being evil this episode.
Yeah, that was a nice change of pace. But they still had Charlotte be like 5 times as evil. The way Marcus off'd that guy was still really sanitory (no screams of pain or blood or anything messy) and dare I say it human (snapped neck as opposed to feeding off of him, or making Tucker watch them hook him up in one of those clear plastic bags as they bleed him dry).
When Krista remembered that in the shower, maybe it would have been nice if she'd pictured Zach, and Marcus just sitting down and looking at some papers after killing her brother. I just wish we'd seen some frustration from her, like maybe punching the shower wall or something, like she's disgusted with her feelings for him. Anything other than that head shake which is so ambiguous. It could have been a "fuck you marcus you're going down" shake to pump herself up, but it seemed more like a "oh, Marcus. What AM I going to do with you" with kind of shake.
'Crunchy Dude' and 'Crunchy Dudette'
lol. They were hilarious. It was fun watching them stumble into their inevitable demise. Though you'd think they of all people wouldn't hold it against Charlotte for having the munchies, lol
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Date: 2006-09-07 06:04 pm (UTC)Yep. One of the things I've enjoyed about Blade is the show being way smarter than I totally expected it to be. But, as we draw closer and closer to the finale, the wheels are starting to fall off.. in a *big* way. And I'm like 'damn, and you guys were doing soo well'.
Anything other than that head shake which is so ambiguous.
Yep. Like, if she's tuned into Marcus' memories because of his blood, why can't she see the moment when he shot Zach? Oh that's right because that'd just remind her of why she's *supposed* to hate him and, oh noes!, we can't have that. If they didn't want Krista to really hate Marcus, then they shouldn't have had him kill Zach. Why is the audience, or at least part of them, the only ones who remember that little tidbit? If it's supposed to be a love/hate dichotomy, maybe TPTB should actually concentrate on the 'hate' part. Because right now, Krista's not even conflicted/torn as much as 'inconvenienced'.
I'm not sure which I hate more - Marcus or TPTB's obvious hardon for the character.. who's not that great to begin with. On paper, having the leading lady fall for the villain looks like a good idea but when it's at the expense of a) the actual leading man and b) the expense of the leading lady's character, soo not a good idea.
Imo, the biggest mistake TPTB this season was killing off Boodine Woodard's character. He would have made an awesome nemesis next season, a nemesis with actual ties to the hero, making Blade's fight with the villain about Blade as opposed to tertiary characters he *never* interacts with!
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Date: 2006-09-07 10:08 pm (UTC)Exactly. It's like they exhausted themselves early in the season or something, and then were like too tired to keep up the same amount of effort. Like a kid that tries really hard in first semester and then tries to coast for the rest of the year. And I'm like "shape up, buddy! I know you can do better this!" They're just being lazy now after working so hard to keep things fresh at the beginning.
Like, if she's tuned into Marcus' memories because of his blood, why can't she see the moment when he shot Zach?
Exactly! I hate this selective memory thing they've got going. If she's in his head she should be able to kind of walk through his memories (like they said on Dr. Who, a door once opened can be walked through in either direction). But instead of Krista seeing something really important we get to see Marcus' memories of woe. They knew that they were going to hook Marcus and Krista up, so if they weren't going to go for a dark fucked up ship, then they shouldn't have had Marcus be the one to fuck up her life. If they needed Krista turned, they could've like had her snooping around and had Chase find her and feed off of her but not finish the job. Then Marcus could've swooped in and been Krista's guide or something and you could see why even though he's an evil bastard she might have feelings for him because he's been nice to her at least. Instead she's all schmoopy about him and he murdered her brother, kidnapped, sort of raped, and then killed her. Oooh, romantic.
Because right now, Krista's not even conflicted/torn as much as 'inconvenienced'.
So true. In fact her undercover work has gotten really half-assed. Like that play she made for the folder. She couldn't have been more obivious. It's like she's going through the motions but doesn't REALLY care anymore.
I'm not sure which I hate more - Marcus or TPTB's obvious hardon for the character.. who's not that great to begin with. On paper, having the leading lady fall for the villain looks like a good idea but when it's at the expense of a) the actual leading man and b) the expense of the leading lady's character, soo not a good idea.
I'd even say 'leading ladies' because Marcus and this storyline isnt' doing Chase any favors either. Krista's coming off as a wishy-washy slut, and Chase as a bitchy, pathetic, jealous ex who needs to realize that its over. They took these two female characters who were extremely strong at the beginning of the series and have just knocked them down until they are now barely recognizable (I mean even phsyically they've been made weaker. Early in the season they were both shown to be tough proficient fighters, but Marcus and Blade in successive episode knocked Krista around like a rag doll, and then
LurchThorne took Chase out in the blink of an eye). Now they're like these Lifetime movie of the week charcters and I'm like "whaaa ...how, for reals? How did it go wrong so quickly?" It's not at the point of no return yet, but I don't like this slippery slope they've started on,Imo, the biggest mistake TPTB this season was killing off Boodine Woodard's character. He would have made an awesome nemesis next season, a nemesis with actual ties to the hero
Steppen Razor (I think that was the name of Bokeem's character) was a much better villian for Blade than Marcus has ever been because he was actually an enemy of Blade. I mean Blade isn't even really a concern to Marcus, Blade is actually fucking helping Marcus out. How the hell is that suppose to create dramatic tension? Marcus' enemey are the purebloods NOT Blade, so Blade is really just kinda hanging out. Steppen Razor forming an alliance with maybe one of the other houses and getting some solid resources and going after Blade (and using his knowledge from their time as Bad Bloods to get insight into how Blade will act) on behalf of the vampire nation would have been an awesome arc, that would have allowed for more Blade background and emotion and development etc. But no, we'll probably be subjected to more Marcus.
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Date: 2006-09-07 11:28 pm (UTC)Oooh, I like that (leave it to Who to be totally smarter). And totally makes sense. Like, what if Blade totally fucks up Marcus's plan because Krista used Marcus' memories against him? 'Shove your blood in my mouth!?! Ha, take that beeyoch!'. The Krista/Marcus storyline fails because it was setup on a foundation of pure contrivance. There's been nothing organic about it. Since it's the in-your-face centerpiece of the show, I can't ignore/avoid it. And I really, *really* wish I could.
They took these two female characters who were extremely strong at the beginning of the series and have just knocked them down until they are now barely recognizable
I'd put Charlotte onto that list as well. Felled by trying to appeal to Blade's vampire side and getting punk'd by Marcus? C'mon!
Steppen Razor (I think that was the name of Bokeem's character) was a much better villian for Blade than Marcus has ever been because he was actually an enemy of Blade.
If I were to actually go on the official boards and try and buzz something in the PTB's ears it would be that, ie, 'give your wrists a rest and quit the circle jerk over Marcus and create a villain that's an actual *foil* for Blade'.
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Date: 2006-09-08 12:56 am (UTC)Totally it's pure contrivance that he's able to control what she sees. In fact you'd think that his most recent memories would be the most easy to access that could say reveal details about the aurora project that he wouldn't have told her otherwise. It would have been a delicious twist of fate if the connection formed between them after he turned her against her will was the source of his downfall.
Quite frankly the whole vision/ADE experience really makes no sense and was probably only invented to give Marcus a way to make Krista soften towards him. Because honestly how do you explain that scientifically like they try to explain everything on the show? How does a virus allow for people to share their memories?
The Krista/Marcus storyline fails because it was setup on a foundation of pure contrivance. There's been nothing organic about it.
Exactly, it's like we're supposed to think that they're in love or whatever because the writers keep telling us so, instead of being able to show it to us convincingly. And the plot chasms aren't helped by the fact that Jackson and Wagner have absolutely no chemistry together (or I should say Jackson has no chemistry with Wagner, since Jill has shown chemistry with practically every character but Marcus. And Jackson hasn't shown chemistry with anyone - even Gower who once again is a freaking chemistry magnet). They're painful lack of ability to generate any actual heat just makes the ship that much more intolerable.
I'd put Charlotte onto that list as well. Felled by trying to appeal to Blade's vampire side and getting punk'd by Marcus? C'mon!
Yeah, I know. It's like Charlotte is obvious an exception young woman to have a position of so much power at that age. And yet they had Marcus playing her like a fucking fiddle. The thing that made it worse is that Charlotte obviously hated Marcus' fucking guts and thought he was a total douchebag but they had her disregard that and just go along with him. If pureblood were really such bossy bastards Charlotte could've just taken his research/taken over the project and told him to piss off. But no, she's yet another woman on the show who just bows to Marcus' will.
'give your wrists a rest and quit the circle jerk over Marcus and create a villain that's an actual *foil* for Blade'.
lol, so true. You know what Marcus is, he's a fucking canon Mary Sue. The writers are spurting over him because he's good looking (to some), well dressed, rich and has beautiful women fawning all over him. It's like, stop trying to put your fantasy self on screen, and focus on the character the show is actually supposed to be about!
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Date: 2006-09-07 11:42 pm (UTC)Instead she's all schmoopy about him and he murdered her brother, kidnapped, sort of raped, and then killed her..
Totally. If they're gonna go there then, dammit, *go* there. It's like they don't want to admit that their villain is a total asshat and keep whitewashing his actions by making the other vamps around him worse. And no, physically showing Isabelle getting raped* doesn't excuse a damn thing Marcus did to Krista. They want it both ways because they're way too enamoured with their villain, and not being intellectually or narratively honest regarding the character. Like, dammit, if you wanted to do a show called Marcus the Douchebaggery Vampire then you should have had the balls to do so. Rather than suckering the audience into thinking they would be watching a show called Blade. I know I wouldn't have tuned in.
And now that you've put the idea in my mind, if vamping is a metaphor for sex then, yeah, Marcus *did* rape her. Which makes me hate him (and Krista falling for the asshole) even more. Krista should totally be planning to shove a stake up his ass.. repeatedly.
* Another on the list of things TPTB have shown onscreen and still they don't show Krista and Chase making out?
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Date: 2006-09-08 01:08 am (UTC)Honestly the Isabelle flashbacks back Marcus an evener bigger asshat to me. I mean the pansy-ass mopey boy still carries around his dead wife's locket, he murders a pure blood to avenge her, and he's planning the destruction of the purebloods because of what was done to her. Obvious HIS family meant a great deal to him and 107 years later he's still obsessed with what happened. So what does he do he goes out and totally fucks up other people's lives the way his was fucked up, and then tells them to get over it. What the fuck ever Marcus. I don't see why we're supposed to feel sorry for what he went through, but then we're supposed to cheer on Krista blowing the guy that did the same thing to her.
Marcus the Douchebaggery Vampire
LOL.
if vamping is a metaphor for sex then, yeah, Marcus *did* rape her. Which makes me hate him (and Krista falling for the asshole) even more. Krista should totally be planning to shove a stake up his ass.. repeatedly.
Total word. This whole relationship is just despicable and makes me wonder if they have one female writer on staff, because honestly, Marcus is being rewarded for being a murdering, raping, abusive dickwad and the writers seem to have no idea that its going on.
Another on the list of things TPTB have shown onscreen and still they don't show Krista and Chase making out?
It amazes me that they REFUSED to go there, when it would have been so easy ... and so hot. Instead of Chase starting out by threatening Krista they could have had her start in with the friendship speech and wanting to get closer to Krista, and they could have had a tender sexy kiss go on. Then Chase could have played at understanding why Krista was attracted to Marcus and pretending to be okay with it. Then she could have slowly revealed violent information to Krista about Marcus and his past (knowing how squimish Krista is) under the guise of girl talk, slowly poisoning Krista against him (brining up Zach as well). Chase totally should have tried killing Krista with "kindness" since it has been demonstrated to her and the audience over and over again that Krista isn't really intimidated by her. But no, same old, same old.
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Date: 2006-09-08 01:35 am (UTC)What totally chaps my ass is I don't mind Marcus being a murderous, raping, abusive dickwad if he'd just *own* it, ya know (or TPTB would let him). Like, in the pilot, when Krista was talking to him through her sniper scope and Marcus was all ' yeah I killed your brother, whatchoo gonna do about it beeyoch'. And I'm like, damn that's cold. But since that moment he turned Krista, it's all been downhill from there.
Right now, it's like you said, he's a Gary Stu. He's not evil, just misunderstood. And, it'd actually be cool if he were actually banging all the women that are falling at his feet. But, we can't have that because his penis is reserved exclusively for his 'twu wuv'. God, excuse me while I puke. I don't want the Diet Coke of Evil for a villain, dammit.
Chase totally should have tried killing Krista with "kindness" since it has been demonstrated to her and the audience over and over again that Krista isn't really intimidated by her.
Or, how about Krista making the moves on Chase since Marcus *still* doesn't trust her after landing on his dick twice and getting nothing in return but some damn cheapass necklace.. and crabs. Heh, wouldn't it rule if Krista were to find out Marcus gave her some vampire STD?
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Date: 2006-09-08 01:51 am (UTC)Totally, it's like you can have him being a murderous, raping, abusive dickwad but the writers have to [Tim Gunn]make it work[/TG] which they haven't. They've carried on, but what they're doing isn't working.
Like, in the pilot, when Krista was talking to him through her sniper scope and Marcus was all ' yeah I killed your brother, whatchoo gonna do about it beeyoch'. And I'm like, damn that's cold. But since that moment he turned Krista, it's all been downhill from there.
You mentioned that moment and I cackled with malicious glee because that was so evil, and douche-y and FUN! If they'd kept that Marcus Van Sciver, having him like taunt Blade, or even like taunting Charlotte through a comm in the sword before blowing up the plane or something he might have been a villian that was fun to hate. Instead we've got EmoManPain with is boring and insulting.
Or, how about Krista making the moves on Chase since Marcus *still* doesn't trust her after landing on his dick twice and getting nothing in return but some damn cheapass necklace.. and crabs
OMG, I love that idea. It's like Krista knows that Chase at least finds her attractive, she would have probably been able to calm Chase's jealousy by hitting on Chase and thereby making her think that she's not as into Marcus as she seems, but just wants some play. And then since Chase is no way near as
ass-pole-likecontrolled as Marcus, Krista totally could have gotten some useful information out of her during pillow talk. Plus, Chase probably would have made an effort to get her off multiple times while Marcus probably got dressed the moment he was finished.Oh, man that would have been awesome adn it would have shown that Krista wasn't the schmoopy dumbass she's turning into, and it would have allowed Chase to be the sexy bitch that she is. Grrr Argh powers that be!
Heh, wouldn't it rule if Krista were to find out Marcus gave her some vampire STD?
I kinda wish he did, the dirty bastard. Maybe Krista can forgive seeing him break someone's neck, but everytime she has to apply that ointment she'd be cursing Dorkus' name.
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Date: 2006-09-07 04:06 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-09-07 06:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-09-07 10:21 pm (UTC)I don't know. I only know that there would be NO MARCUS EVER AGAIN! There won't even be like a delivery guy named Marc!
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Date: 2006-09-07 10:14 pm (UTC)I know! This is the same show that's had gratuitous shots of strippers in at least two episodes, Chase's bum for no apparent reason other than to show a pretty girl bum, shower scene after shower scene (Krista must be the cleanest woman on the planet), and yet they don't think that the audience that likes all of that stuff would also like to see girls macking on each other? Whaaa...where...what kind of crazy world are we living in? The guys that watch this show don't care about the Karcus true love storyline, it's the fangirls they didn't expect to be watching the show when all of these episodes were made that like Karcus. It would have been so easy and in character to have Chase try and win Krista's friendship by trying to take things to next level (like she's tried since the pilot), and to have Krista give in cause you know she was totally into it in the pilot and she could give in while pretending she needed to do it to stay undercover (just like how she's justifying sleeping with Marcus).
But no. *Shakes head at SpikeTV and TPTB*
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Date: 2006-09-07 06:24 pm (UTC)I think we need a/u Khase fic, with a living Charlotte and dusty Marcus, to take away the disappointment of this episode - damn the preview people, but at the same time, damn Spike for not hiring the preview people to write the scripts, because at least they knew the girl/girl would bring in the audience, so they'd probably have gone there.
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Date: 2006-09-07 10:29 pm (UTC)So uncharacteristic and even more disappointing because of that.
Also, how much more interesting would it have been if Charlotte was alive, somewhere, plotting to do depraved things to Marcus? The wee evil one should have been a show regular and secretly lured Chase over to her side for some much needed Marcus bashing and sexy cat fights with Krista.
It would have actually been interesting instead of this boring rehash of Blade the Movie that we're getting. I would much rather have seen Chase make a power play, and agree to sabatoge the aurora supply Marcus has rendering it ineffective, so that when the smug bastard set it off in the conclave nothing happened and the purebloods jumped him and literally riped him to shreds. Then as per their arrangement Chase became head of Chthon (she doesn't have to take anymore of anyone's shit). Then because I like Chase and don't want her to die, Krista not wanting to be part of the fight or undercover anymore could go to Leichen, and Chase could be brought in to try and lure her back (either because of feelings for her, or because Krista knows too much about Chthon's secrets) and they could end up forming an unholy alliance when Leichen turns out to be up to something sinister.
Anything but
Deacon Frost, sorry, PoorMan'sDeaconFrost (aka Marcus) trying to kill the pureblood council and then having a sword fight with Blade in a big arena. I've seen this movie, BLADE WINS! (pass it on!)no subject
Date: 2006-09-07 11:48 pm (UTC)Yea, and that movie was soo much better than what they're rehashing now.
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Date: 2006-09-08 12:46 am (UTC)And HA! I'm not the only one who thinks it's a Blade movie rehash. I swear to gawd, the promo came on and it was like "hell no." I mean, come on! It looks like they took the stone crypt set from the end of the first Blade movie, slapped up some blue-ish lighting, and threw Marcus in there instead of Frost. Who, by the way, was COMPLETELY a better villian, even though Marcus' background sounds cooler on paper. I mean, he got Blade's MOTHER to screw with him, attacked Blade in his own home and 'killed' Whistler, and even yanked that one guy's fangs out before toasting him in sunlight and PRESENTED THEM TO THE COUNCIL! What's Marcus done? Fucked up for a hundred years, lost / injured most of his best people to Blade, pissed off Chase and Krista BOTH, stuck a tomahawk through Damick's forehead, and screwed up blowing up Charolette. His "big moves" were killing Zach and snapping builder-boy's neck. WTF?!?
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Date: 2006-09-08 01:14 am (UTC)That would have been mint. I can see the arrogant, scary as hell smirk on Charlotte's face already, and you know Chase would be there looming over Charlotte with this twisted but satisfied slight smile that said "that's for fucking with me you complete ass prick!".
I mean, he got Blade's MOTHER to screw with him, attacked Blade in his own home and 'killed' Whistler, and even yanked that one guy's fangs out before toasting him in sunlight and PRESENTED THEM TO THE COUNCIL! What's Marcus done?
So true. I mean you can't even compare Marcus and Frost because Frost kicked so much ass. And the thing is that Frost screwed with BLADE'S head. The Frost and Blade were actual enemies, Blade had an emotional stake in everything, Frost turned his mother, Frost was then literally a mother-fucker, Frost had his mother hit on him for love of pete. It was all about Blade, and Frost was his totally bad-ass nemisis. Blade the Series is all about Krista, Marcus and even Chase, and Blade is just reacting to everything and has no emotional connection. It's Krista's brother that Marcus killed, not Blade's mentor, it's Krista mother and uncle that died because of Marcus' interference in her life, not Blade's family or friends. Blade's just an observer and that's just wrong.
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Date: 2006-09-08 01:33 am (UTC)And seriously, pretty much all three movies were better than the series when it comes to enemies. Let's see, we have Frost (scary-assed bastard) in #1, the psycho genetics-manipulating council-guy from #2 (who not only created the uber-vamp but nearly killed Blade), and the psycho vamps that stormed the headquarters in #3. I mean, come on, they killed everybody but Sommerfield, tied her up and left her to turn as a message for Blade, snatched the little girl and tortured King. Marcus sucks, Karcus sucks - it would suck even if I couldn't see Krista and Chase together - and the series is called BLADE. *grumble*
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Date: 2006-09-08 01:59 am (UTC)I know. Zach turned out to be such a fucking plot device. I can't believe that Krista at least hasn't mentioned him or even seemed to remember him. What I wouldn't have given for a line like "You kill my brother, throw me off a rooftop and all I get is a quicky during lunch?" or something snarky like that with an undercurrent of real venom to show that while she's sleeping with him it's hate!sex not making love.
I can't believe that during the detox Blade didn't even bring up Zach as a part of a "remember why you're there" speech. I mean he could have busted out police pictures of Zach's dead body and shown it to her. They could've even repeated his lines to Abby in Trinity "Use it! Use it!" to get her to focus on her hate instead of her bloodlust.
And seriously, pretty much all three movies were better than the series when it comes to enemies.
So true. Deacon and Lomac were badass. And I loved coked out Danica Talos and her band of misfit vamps. They were fun. I don't know that they're plans were any better than Marcus', but at least they were interesting to watch and genuinely creepy at times. Like imagine if Marcus had a shed full of human feeding bags instead of vampire ones. How would Krista have liked to see that? What if architect man had a child and Marcus threatened to turn him, starve him and then feed him is daughter, would Krista still have loved her shiny locket then? Marcus just sucks as a villian because they're trying to make him palpable as a leading man, and failing at making him both.
And word to the series being called BLADE. Maybe they should actually make Blade the center of the action and have everyone else react to him and his actions.
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Date: 2006-09-08 04:33 am (UTC)But that would mean admitting Krista doesn't think Marcus is anything but the bee's knees and we just can't have that, now can we. It's one thing to lay down the notion that a turned vamp are incapable of killing their sire, eg Chase and Frederick, but then they go and retcon the whole idea (within the same friggin season) by having Krista be all in love and crap.
I can't believe that during the detox Blade didn't even bring up Zach as a part of a "remember why you're there" speech.
But then Blade would have had to have been part of the detox process. Instead, we get 'here's the keys Shen, I'm outta here'.
Marcus just sucks as a villian because they're trying to make him palpable as a leading man, and failing at making him both.
I don't wanna use the 'Jump the Shark' phrase but Angels & Demons is turning more and more into the Worst Episode yet. Mainly because it's the ep where everything afterward turned to shit. Okay, maybe not everything 'cuz I still do love the show, honest. But, an entire episode devoted to Marcus's manpain and yet, all it took to tell us everything we needed to know about Chase was a 2-minute speech in an Alcoholics Anonymous. Seems like someone needs a refresher course on 'show don't tell'.
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Date: 2006-09-07 07:43 pm (UTC)No, I'm not bitter. ;-)
Anyway...Collins dead so soon! But I like that about some series that pulls stuff like that. Get too attached and your favorite character's new name is 'hors d'euvre'. ;-)
I honestly did not think Charlotte was going to die...did you catch Blade taking off his glasses to enjoy the kill?
Okay, maybe it's just me but I DO NOT see Krista/Marcus...the characters have no chemistry whatsoever. It's only sex, dammit.
'Hey, Lurch!' *snort!*
Maybe it's me, but the season finale with the Conclave reminds me a little of the ending of the first Blade film...especially if that's Blade and Marcus going at it.
here's hoping for a season two.
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Date: 2006-09-07 09:48 pm (UTC)lol. Me either, I'm totally not seething with rage, I'm filled with joy-joy happy feelings at ... oh, I can't even pretend. [Johnny Storm]Rage on![/JS]
Anyway...Collins dead so soon! But I like that about some series that pulls stuff like that.
Yeah, I was kinda suprised that Collins died but I wasn't toally broken up about it. I his storyline of normal-guy-learns-about-the-vampire-underworld was interesting on paper, but it didn't translate well to screen because we didn't need Collins to find out about the vampire world since 2/3 of any given episode was spent at Chthon with vampires. So Collins stuff was just kind of boring. He had some good lines tonight though, he went out on a high note.
I honestly did not think Charlotte was going to die...did you catch Blade taking off his glasses to enjoy the kill?
I missed Blade taking off the glasses, I was too busy hoping something would come along to save Charlotte. I can believe how wrongly she misread him. Charlotte's death I am kind of pissed about because I would have loved her to go after Marcus. I hate how Marcus' dumbass plans never come back to bite him in the ass, it's like if Blade hadn't shown up Charlotte would have survived gone to the council and Marcus' ass would have been ash. Instead we have the hero saving the bad guy (oh I know Blade wants the purebloods dead too, I just hate that Marcus' is so ineffective that Blade has to actually HELP him).
Okay, maybe it's just me but I DO NOT see Krista/Marcus...the characters have no chemistry whatsoever. It's only sex, dammit.
It's not just you. Not only is the relationship itself offensive, the actors have no chemistry with each other. Their scenes together are boring, not sexy. Like that scene in his office when they were kind of insulting each other and then made out. With actors that had chemistry that could have been a really cute scene, but the chemistry!less wonders it was just kinda painful. I don't know, I just find Marcus so effing humorless, I don't see anything enticing about his personality and he's not that pretty. I'd pretty much choose any guy on the show besides Marcus to make out with (Shen, Blade, to me Collins is even better than Marcus. At least that guys made me laugh a few times).
Maybe it's me, but the season finale with the Conclave reminds me a little of the ending of the first Blade film...especially if that's Blade and Marcus going at it.
So true. Marcus' whole plan is like a dumbed down version of Deacon Frost's . Because of the similarities in plans I can't help but compare Marcus to Deacon and he falls short in every way.
But despite my bitching I AM REALLY HOPING that there's a season 2. I really do like the show which is why I pick on it so much. It's like that bright little kid that's just not applying himself and I want him to succeed you know.
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Date: 2006-09-08 12:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-09-08 01:27 am (UTC)Exactly. I was so used to the show being kickass that I haven't been prepared for the 'eh'ness of the past three episodes. I know it can do better, and I want it to.
But it could use a does of hot girl on girl and a more interesting power vamp than Dorkus.
Honestly anything is more interesting than Dorkus. Marcus is so boring it's almost painful. And Wagner/Gower have way more chemistry just standing next to each other than Wagner/Jackson do actually making out. The Chase circling Krista like a nummy treat scene and menacingly cutting her stomach was WAY more erotic then anything Karcus has done together.
It would have been so much more interesting to end the season with a Chase-Charlotte powerplay with Krista having to stay on Chase's "good side" for the sake of the "mission".
How much would i have loved this. I mean, Chase embarassed me this episode, I was embarassed for her being so desperate, and needy and pathetic. And the thing that got me was she was once so proud a character and then you had Sabine giving her pity looks when she was all "who is he in there with?" after the Karcus romp (speaking of which, poor poor Sabine. The poor thing must have heard all of that!). I would've loved to see Chase step up to the plate and take a step towards securing her own future instead of following Marcus around like a lovesick puppy dog.
And Chase totally could have used their last conversation as a way to turn Krista against Marcus but messed that up as well. She sees Krista falling for Marcus, okay, don't threaten her that just puts her on the defensive and makes her hate you. Play nice. Chase should have commented to Krista how Krista was a much better person than her because she never would have been able to forgive Marcus for what he had done to her. She wasn't able to forgive Frederick afterall, and Frederick didn't murder her brother or indirectly cause the death of her mother. She could have made some comment about how after being in Marcus' head and seeing all of the terrible things that he had done, that Krista must really be a big person to forgive him and love him inspite of it. She could have just reminded Krista of every awful thing Marcus ever did to her (which she seemed to forget) and then left her to think about that. I think that would have been much more effective that being all "Bitch, you betta step! Seriously, bitch I'll cut ya! Stay away from my man." But then again, that would have required the writers showing Chase having a brain which they've steadily been taking away from her for second half of the season.
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Date: 2006-09-08 02:42 am (UTC)Thank gawd, somebody else said it! *laughs* Even after reading your journal, when I watched the episode I was drooling. Something, anything - but no. Frigging hell, the jealousy angle? They couldn't come up with anything BETTER for her to do?
And speaking of Sabine and the pity look - oh, my god, I wanted Chase to storm in there right then. Hell, I thought that might be when the kiss happened, a sort of "Marcus does have good taste" kind of snark thing. But nooooo. *grumble, again*
that would have required the writers showing Chase having a brain which they've steadily been taking away from her for second half of the season.
No kidding. After the whole Berlin thing and getting blown up, she just kind of - died, intellectually / character-wise. I want the Chase that messed with Krista's head and flirted with her back, damnit!
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Date: 2006-09-08 02:37 am (UTC)Charlotte dies? Noooooooooooooooo!! Damnit my favourite character is gone. Only Krista, Chase and Shen left...This show goes through characters (main or otherwise) faster than Buffy did. Or most other shows for that matter. I think only soaps have it beat. *cough*AllMyChildren*cough*.
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Date: 2006-09-15 02:22 pm (UTC)Also, did you catch the way Bladewas flipping his coat at the crash sight as he walked away from Collins, just before he finds the bodies? My god, Blade is such a drama queen, I laughed my ass off. I can imagine him practicing swirling his coat, just to impress the onlookers.
While watching the Blade/Lurch fight at the end I kept getting X-Men flashbacks. Lurch must have been channeling Sabretooth with his 'scream for me'. It sure sounded like it anyway. I guess even henchvamps find time to catch a superhero movie every now and then.
The zoom of "Oh my god! She has thingy's locket" was hilarious. I am surprised it took that long for Chase to notice though, as I am sure she takes every opportunity to stare at Krista's cleavage. Or maybe it's just me I loved that entrance of Krista's too, though if she has left the leather jacket off it would have been even better. I wonder if Chase has always known about Isobel, because even though she told Alex she didn't know Marcus was married, this had to have been a line, otherwise she wouldn't have recognised the locket so quick, along with what it symbolised for Marcus.
I have to say, I didn't get a 'woman scorned' jealous vibe off of Chase at the end, it was more 'you are making a mistake, stick with me' sort of feel, if you know what I mean. At the end it seemed like she wasn't so much concerned with who had Marcus, but more that she wanted Krista on her side. She came off weirdly desperate at the end there, with her 'time is running out to choose me Krista' spiel. I mean, she never says that she wants Marcus, Krista assumes that that is what it is about.