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"Twilight" ramblings ... *hangs head*  I can't believe I just wrote that.
So it makes absolutely no sense that I'm following the production of this movie considering I haven't been able to finish reading the first book yet (if I have to read about Edward's "topaz eyes" or about how he "dazzles" Bella one more time I'm going stab somebody ... hard ... and someplace vital!), but I am following it for some masochistic reason. 

Okay, that reason is my vampire fetish and probably more so Robert Pattinson's pretty since I had no desire to read the books before he was cast even though I knew they were about vampires.

In any event ...





Thoughts: 


-  Robert looks delicious.  As usual.

-  Why, why, why does Hollywood insist on casting very good-looking brunette actors/actresses to play blondes?  I'm sorry, there are very few people who can rock all shades of hair and look good with them all.  Not everyone can be Rachel McAdams, ya'll! 

If you hire a brunette because they're the best actor for the role just leave them brunette.  Peter Facinelli was not made to be blond (though he probably pulls the look off the best of the three).  Ditto for Nikki Reed, and for Jackson Rathbone (the other bottled blond in the pictures).  They are all stunning brunette's and weird looking blonds.

- Why is everyone in bulky jackets except for Elizabeth Reaser and Robert?  It's because they're the sexiest, isn't it?  I wish I was so hot that the elements had no effect on me.

- So, yeah that 's pretty much it for thoughts since I haven't finished the first book and can't really make any meaningful comments on the casting (and really, I'm okay with that).

*sigh*

I really hope they start casting for the A Great and Terrible Beauty movie soon, so that I can start obsessing about that, since I actually like those books.

Date: 2008-02-20 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ic1pher.livejournal.com
I'm a masochist too (yay!) and actually could read one and half book before having too much of the good thing.

Date: 2008-02-20 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
lol. The really messed up thing is that I really really dislike the main character, the writing bothers me endlessly, yet I KNOW I'm going to try to finish it! People keep on mentioning characters that SEEM cool and I kind of want to find out if they are, but because Meyer is writing them I know it'll be shit and yet ... yet ... I'm still gonna try and finish at least "Twilight". *smacks self in the face* What is wrong with me?!?

Date: 2008-02-20 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ic1pher.livejournal.com
You have a vampire fetish? And like intimate relationships with two women?

Kim Harrison: Dead Witch Walking, is all I got to say. Although I think the author would dislike me advertising her works this way, making it seem like the books are only about femslash, which they aren't. The characters simply live their three-dimensional lives, femslash just happens-and I couldn't be more happy.

I would gouge my own eyes out if I died before reading that series.
What's even more amazing than reading your fics or these books? If you would ever write a fic about Ivy and Rachel.

It's more awesome than Sarah Water's Fingersmith (there's a movie of that book which I haven't found yet am desperately searching for...) or the part in Jacqueling Carey's Kushiel saga where Melisande takes Phedre for test drive. Although the part of Fingersmith where the protagonists execute their plot comes pretty darn close.

Date: 2008-02-20 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Kim Harrison: Dead Witch Walking

There is the femslash in this? I've been toying around with buying this for a couple of weeks, but because I have a shitload of half-read books laying about I haven't bought it. But if there is femslash I will not be able to deny it.

Is it textual, or really obvious femslash? Either way I'm there, I'm just curious.

It's more awesome than Sarah Water's Fingersmith (there's a movie of that book which I haven't found yet am desperately searching for...)

Fingersmith is pretty effing awesome so that's some high praise there to compare the two. This makes me happy. You haven't seen the Fingersmith movie? *gasps in horror* I have it on my computer I'll be uploading it for you. You have to see it, it's very good and it actually enticed me to read the book. The leads are fantastic. Seriously, if you do not fall in love with Elaine Cassidy as Maude you have so soul (I'm only half joking about that).

Jacqueling Carey's Kushiel saga where Melisande takes Phedre for test drive.

This is another one I've been toying with. And I've mostly put it down because the print is small and the first one is thick. I'm an utter and complete child sometime. Are the books pretty good? How would a non-fantasy reader take to them?

Date: 2008-02-20 02:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ic1pher.livejournal.com
Well for me Ivy/Rachel is the very definition of femslash. Yet to be surprassed. I'm still completely obsessed by it. I don't know your tastes so it's a bit hard to say if you would like it. But I ate it up with a spoon. It's a relationship which develops a bit slowly, mostly because the other party is straight or "not wired that way". But it takes two to tango... So I'm not buying that excuse. Personally I think it's just some hardcore repression. Which I also find somehow strangely hot... oh well. I could write a book about this so I'll just stop here.

About Kushiel: it's very different. I read too much fantasy when I was teen and got over-saturated by it. I hate traditional fantasy today, but still find George R. R. Martin's and Jacqueline Carey's works really great because they don't go follow the traditional formula.

I wouldn't even categorize Jacqueline Carey as fantasy, it's more like alternate history. Reminds me a lot more of the books placed on Victorian Era than any vanilla fantasy I've read. There's a lot of scheming and plotting behind the scenes. Also a lot of hot BDSM sex...

Date: 2008-02-20 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I don't know your tastes so it's a bit hard to say if you would like it. But I ate it up with a spoon. It's a relationship which develops a bit slowly, mostly because the other party is straight or "not wired that way". But it takes two to tango... So I'm not buying that excuse. Personally I think it's just some hardcore repression. Which I also find somehow strangely hot...

Sounds pretty darn good to me. You've convinced me. I'm gonna read the first book. "Dead Witch Walking" here I come!

I wouldn't even categorize Jacqueline Carey as fantasy, it's more like alternate history. Reminds me a lot more of the books placed on Victorian Era than any vanilla fantasy I've read. There's a lot of scheming and plotting behind the scenes. Also a lot of hot BDSM sex...

A Victorian sensibility and hot BDSM sex = me there! Aiight, I'm just gonna have to get over the small print and read this too. With the three sentences above there's no way I can resist!

Thanks for the info :D

Date: 2008-02-20 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki1200.livejournal.com
I started reading Twilight while waiting for 'The Sweet Far Thing' but haven't been able to finish either. The quality of the writing is not even in the same continent as J.K Rowling or Libba Bray. It's not hard to find much better written fanfic, so I'm kind of puzzled as to why it's been such a phenomenon over the summer. Vampires = sure thing I guess.

I agree that Kim Harrison is very readable, although the femslash is more of a tease (so far) than anything. Still, I actually like the characters, even though I wish Ivy was handled better. Harrison doesn't quite seem to know what to do with Ivy in the more recent books. If I remember the first book correctly, Harrison did a good job of striking the balance between doomed, badass vampire and no-nonsense kickass chick at the beginning, but it's been downhill from there since.
Fanfic is definitely needed to right this.

Date: 2008-02-20 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ic1pher.livejournal.com
(Offtopic) The most awesome thing about Harry Potter: Dumbledore is gay.

Date: 2008-02-20 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki1200.livejournal.com
I'm not actually a huge fan of HP. Some of the books sort of got on my nerves, but the writing is solid, even if I didn't love it like Libba Bray's.

Date: 2008-02-20 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I started reading Twilight while waiting for 'The Sweet Far Thing' but haven't been able to finish either. The quality of the writing is not even in the same continent as J.K Rowling or Libba Bray.

So true. Bray is awesome. I really love the Gemma Doyle Trilogy. I devoured those books. The Sweet Far Thing took me the longest to read and it only took me three days to read it.

I'm not an elitist when in comes to entertainment literature. I mean, I just devoured Melissa De La Cruz's "Blood Bloods" and "Masquerade" books (they are basically Gossip Girl ... with Blair, Serena, Dan and Vanessa were vampires ... which is as awesome as it sounds. Of course, even a non-vamped Blair Waldorf could still kick Mimi Force's ass ... Blair is just that awesome)

It's not hard to find much better written fanfic, so I'm kind of puzzled as to why it's been such a phenomenon over the summer. Vampires = sure thing I guess.

Oh, I know! I can't understand it. It's so terrible, and yet its so popular that for a long time I was wondering if it was just me. I thought maybe I was just being a hater so I'm glad other people think its poo as well.

I agree that Kim Harrison is very readable, although the femslash is more of a tease (so far) than anything.

So, I'll check out the first book at least and then take it from there.

Speaking of teasing, I'm so glad that Libba Bray actually went somewhere with the teasing in her books. I will love her forever for that.

Date: 2008-02-20 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki1200.livejournal.com
> Bray is awesome.
She did an awsome job with the period style writing. I got the audiobooks on CD at the library and ripped them to my iPod. Listening to Josephine Bailey reading the books is like the best of both worlds. Awsome writing read with a british accent. I recommend it to fall asleep to, even though some of the scary bits are not conducive to sleep.

>I'll check out the first book at least and then take it from there.
I think it's one of the strongest ones in the series, stands on its own as most of the books do. Except for the lack of resolution beween Rachel and Ivy.

> I'm so glad that Libba Bray actually went somewhere with the teasing in her books. I will love her forever for that.

That was a very nice surprise. I love how complex, flawed and yet wonderful Gemma's friends are. Probably the most impressive thing about the books is how she managed to be very unsentimental about the selfishness of their survival tactics and yet make them so loyal to each other as teenagers can be.

Date: 2008-02-23 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
That was a very nice surprise. I love how complex, flawed and yet wonderful Gemma's friends are. Probably the most impressive thing about the books is how she managed to be very unsentimental about the selfishness of their survival tactics and yet make them so loyal to each other as teenagers can be.

That is so true, and something that I noticed and loved about the books. All of the characters were presented as being flawed, but it made them so much more real and lovable. In other series when characters display attitude or get into fights with other it can be seriously annoying (I have wanted to bitch slap both Harry Potter and Ron Weasely numerous times) but Bray managed to keep them very human, and even when they were being stupid, selfish, snots I still felt for them and sympathized with them.

It's an amazing accomplishment. I really can't wait until her next book comes out, no matter what it's about (although I hope it continues to be in the supernatural realm because I love that stuff). If she wrote a vampire book I think I might throw up from happiness.

Also, I got "Dead Witch Walking" now I just have to read it!

Date: 2008-02-20 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bartzina13.livejournal.com
For what it's worth, the owner of my local independent bookstore can't recommend the Kushiel's dart trilogy highly enough.

Date: 2008-02-20 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Okay, I'm convinced, I'm going to check it out. Too many people have recommended it for me and my babyish whining about small print to hold out for any longer!

Date: 2008-02-22 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashirashadow.livejournal.com
It's now 5 books in and the 6th is coming out in June. I love them all. It's definitely a must. Trust us. The first 3 will keep your attention completely. The others may or may not b/c she furthers the story with the next generation characters though the stars are still there. :D

I'm holding myself back b/c these books are amazing and I tend to gush over them. ^_^"

Date: 2008-02-20 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinandmisery.livejournal.com
Wait, that blonde is Nikki Reed? *wipes eyes a la Seth Cohen when seeing Malex* Huh?!?

Date: 2008-02-20 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphire-magick.livejournal.com
WTF?! NIKKI REED?! YOU ARE FUCKING KIDDING! That isn't Nikki... the blonde doesn't look like the brunette Nikki I like to look at... WTF?!

*goes to IMDB this*

My brain is refusing to process this.

Date: 2008-02-21 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinandmisery.livejournal.com
haha that's what my brain did, too.

Also? Creepy outcast guy (the one who doesn't match the others AT ALL) is either a) Penn Badgely in 10 years, or 2) Christopher Eccelston 10 years ago. AKA: If Penn Badgely and Chris Eccelston had a love child, that guy would be it.

Date: 2008-02-21 10:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sapphire-magick.livejournal.com
OMFG PENN BADGELY IN TEN YEARS MOST DEFINITELY! :|

Date: 2008-02-23 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Creepy outcast guy (the one who doesn't match the others AT ALL) is either a) Penn Badgely in 10 years, or 2) Christopher Eccelston 10 years ago. AKA: If Penn Badgely and Chris Eccelston had a love child, that guy would be it.

You make me smile.

I hadn't thought of that, but he totally does look like Dan before Penn's hair started to grow in again. A less cute Dan, although probably a lot less pretentious as well.

Date: 2008-02-23 06:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinandmisery.livejournal.com
It took seeing the pics a second time, but I was like "Hmm, he kinda looks like Penn in early eps..." but then the eyes/jaw were definitely Chris (esp. in Gone in 60 Seconds).

Date: 2008-02-23 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Wait, that blonde is Nikki Reed? *wipes eyes a la Seth Cohen when seeing Malex* Huh?!?

Best. Description. Ever. And, I KNOW!

I have to say, the wig is kind of horrible but she doesn't look completely ridiculous as a blonde, but WTF? It's like if you care so much about the characters hair colour hire an actual blonde. Because although she doesn't make me want to claw my eyes out like Colin Farrell's hair did in Alexander, you can tell that it's dyed/a wig, and it's not sexy, let alone vampirically sexy.

Date: 2008-02-23 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinandmisery.livejournal.com
Best. Description. Ever.

I love Seth's facial expressions. Possibly the best part of the show, outside of Olivia's hotness for all 10 eps she was on.

I can see, just a little, looking at the first pic that it's Nikki. I mean, the face sorta looks like her, but yeah the blonde wig/weave/whatevs is just horrible. I mean, if you want to cast pretty people, I can think of a ton of people who look a lot prettier that are really blonde, or even ones that look better as a fake blonde. *cough*Olivia*cough* Hell, even J. Gar's bright red spy wig looked better than that!

Date: 2008-02-23 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I love Seth's facial expressions. Possibly the best part of the show, outside of Olivia's hotness for all 10 eps she was on.

Seth began to annoy me after a while, but for about a season and a half he was pure gold. I still remember that expression and it was like one of the greatest things ever.

I mean, if you want to cast pretty people, I can think of a ton of people who look a lot prettier that are really blonde, or even ones that look better as a fake blonde.

I know! Like hard it's to find blonde actresses in Hollywood.

Date: 2008-02-23 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sinandmisery.livejournal.com
like hard it's to find blonde actresses in Hollywood.

Maybe the casting director should go talk to Tim Kring. He seems to have a monopoly on hot blondes in Hollywood...

Date: 2008-02-20 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amluv.livejournal.com
i have know idea what you're going on about, however it's you and a picture of elizabeth reaser, whose sexy i can't quite explain, but it's there for all to see...and not for nothing, they totally look like the should be called "the gay squad" those photos are just gay-tastic. :)

Date: 2008-02-23 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
i have know idea what you're going on about,

That's probably best. The books are shit. I'm only gonna try to finish reading it because I spent good money on that dammit!

I'm hoping that the movie will be infinitely less annoying than the book was.

and not for nothing, they totally look like the should be called "the gay squad" those photos are just gay-tastic. :)

It's so true. They look like the Gay Mafia of Forks. Edward gets to be at the front because he's the prettiest ... and has the nicest shoes. In the first picture Alice also looks totally butch with her sassy cocked hip. She's probably Edward's gay First Lt.
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Date: 2008-02-22 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
i agree!

Date: 2008-02-22 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] makkera.livejournal.com
Yay! I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who couldn't get past half of the first book!
Anyway I think I'm going to see the movie for 2 reasons:
1. in case I'll realize I've passed something really worth reading..
2. Robert is quite hot. ;)

Date: 2008-02-23 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Yay! I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who couldn't get past half of the first book!

So painfully. I got through the first hundred pages or so relatively quickly, but then I wanted to claw my eyes out. I'm so glad I didn't listen to my friend and by all three books at the same time because they had a boxset. I don't even want the other two in my eyes, let alone assaulting my retinas!

Anyway I think I'm going to see the movie for 2 reasons:

Word. As soon as Robert signed up I knew I would be seeing this. Robert playing a vampire is not something I will pass up, no matter how badly written the source material is. Also, I just plain like vampire movies and will sit through almost anyone. I hope the script writer is better than Meyer though.

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