Legend of the Seeker - 2x21 - Unbroken
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fembuckNOT ENOUGH CARA!
This episode was a bit of a mixed bag for me. I can't really bring myself to say that it was a bad episode, because it wasn't. It's just that following on the heels of eps like "Princess", "Torn", "Desecrated", "Extinction" and "Eternity" it was kind of a letdown. And when you add to that that this episode could be the second last episode of the series ever, my overall reaction was ...
Things started out well enough. I liked the fight with the sisters of the dark by the rift a lot, and of course Cara eyefuxing the hell out of Dahlia when Rahl was kissing her was made of win (as was Dahlia's pleased, "That's my girl!" expression). Dahlia's death was heartbreaking (Laura Bent did a fantastic job with Dahlia when she was confessed and talking with Kahlan) but I kind of knew it was coming. Cara's reaction to it, and the fact that she let herself get distracted enough to be knocked out because it was Dahlia, Dahlia, made me all teary eyed.
I even got a kick out of Zedd's dramatic moment ruining picnic's for people all over the midlands as he cast his spell. Though the best part of it was Cara just kind of looking up at the sky all unimpressed like
"Ooh, clouds. Bored now. Don't bother inviting me to your next party, I wish I hadn't come to this one."
Then, the mixed bag-edness came in.
I actually really liked the Richard/Kahlan scenes. They were so happy, and honestly those are two people who deserve to be happy. The "I'm pregnant"/"It's only been three days" conversation was insanely cute, and Bridget's smile! Bridget's smile, people! Still hated Craigy-poo's hair though. Seeing the short-hair on Richard again really made me realize why I lusted after him in the first season, and then flashing back to the long-hair really explained why I don't now. Shallow, but true.
I liked seeing Jennsen again, and was actually really sad when she bit it.
And Richard's, "I have the power of Ordin, nothing can ever go wrong ever again" attitude was classic Richard to be honest. It was the same part of his personality that made me coo, "He's such a good guy" when he refused to give up on Cara because she would have gone to the ends of the earth for him. And it's the same part of his personality that often makes me want to throttle him, because the world just does not work the way Richard thinks it should.
About the Return of Leo however, I was like ...
I was like WTF, where did this bastard come from again and can he please go back! I liked Leo the first time around but I did not need him in the possibly penultimate episode of the series cock-blocking the GoGA.
But more than anything else, I hated Zedd's retconning of the Cara/Leo thing. I was very ...
about it. It's like, Zedd Leo was not the fucking love of Cara's life, and goddamn fate did not send him back to her. Leo made some funny jokes that made Cara smile, they hooked up in a cave that one time, and then he died. Did they have potential? Hells yeah. Did she like him? Hells yeah. Was she in love with him? Fuck no.
And I guess the other thing that disappointed me about Cara's storyline was that she wasn't with Dahlia when she was all widowed. That's mostly my fault because I spent the whole time Cara wasn't on-screen imagining how cute it would be to see Dahlia and widow!Cara raising her kids together so when they weren't I was all ...
I raged a little less when I realized Dahlia had still been taken as child and was Mord'Sith and I thought that maybe all hope wasn't lost when Dahlia heard Cara's name at the temple and got all schmoopy for a second, but then Cara got three arrows in her and my new dreams of a Cara/Dahlia reunion were dashed again (unless Dahlia actually does give Cara the breath of life to bring her back, like she does in my dream world).
The whole thing just smacked a little of ... F/F = [Katy Perry]It's not what good girls do[/KP], and M/F = true love. I don't think the writers were consciously trying to express that, but it was there and I'm judging them.
Miranda Priestly and I do NOT approve of such shenanigans, intentional or not.
Tabrett Bethell is a golden goddesss!
Can we just talk about how awesome this woman is a little more. I really enjoyed her performance as Alt!Cara. She managed to really imbue Alt!Cara with some very recognizable Cara mannerisms, but she also really managed to soften those characteristics out in a way that was true to the new timeline. I loved how even her voice was different, softer and higher pitched (and slightly more Aussie than usual lol). Cara growl-talks because of her pain, ya'll! And that last scene where she was begging for her life *heart = broken*
Next week looks ... WHAT? I DON'T EVEN! Can't wait, shit looks like it's getting real and Cara seems to be back with the gang which makes me happy.
Really, not a bad episode, it just suffered from the episodes that proceeded it being ridiculously awesome.
This episode was a bit of a mixed bag for me. I can't really bring myself to say that it was a bad episode, because it wasn't. It's just that following on the heels of eps like "Princess", "Torn", "Desecrated", "Extinction" and "Eternity" it was kind of a letdown. And when you add to that that this episode could be the second last episode of the series ever, my overall reaction was ...
Things started out well enough. I liked the fight with the sisters of the dark by the rift a lot, and of course Cara eyefuxing the hell out of Dahlia when Rahl was kissing her was made of win (as was Dahlia's pleased, "That's my girl!" expression). Dahlia's death was heartbreaking (Laura Bent did a fantastic job with Dahlia when she was confessed and talking with Kahlan) but I kind of knew it was coming. Cara's reaction to it, and the fact that she let herself get distracted enough to be knocked out because it was Dahlia, Dahlia, made me all teary eyed.
I even got a kick out of Zedd's dramatic moment ruining picnic's for people all over the midlands as he cast his spell. Though the best part of it was Cara just kind of looking up at the sky all unimpressed like
"Ooh, clouds. Bored now. Don't bother inviting me to your next party, I wish I hadn't come to this one."
Then, the mixed bag-edness came in.
I actually really liked the Richard/Kahlan scenes. They were so happy, and honestly those are two people who deserve to be happy. The "I'm pregnant"/"It's only been three days" conversation was insanely cute, and Bridget's smile! Bridget's smile, people! Still hated Craigy-poo's hair though. Seeing the short-hair on Richard again really made me realize why I lusted after him in the first season, and then flashing back to the long-hair really explained why I don't now. Shallow, but true.
I liked seeing Jennsen again, and was actually really sad when she bit it.
And Richard's, "I have the power of Ordin, nothing can ever go wrong ever again" attitude was classic Richard to be honest. It was the same part of his personality that made me coo, "He's such a good guy" when he refused to give up on Cara because she would have gone to the ends of the earth for him. And it's the same part of his personality that often makes me want to throttle him, because the world just does not work the way Richard thinks it should.
About the Return of Leo however, I was like ...
I was like WTF, where did this bastard come from again and can he please go back! I liked Leo the first time around but I did not need him in the possibly penultimate episode of the series cock-blocking the GoGA.
But more than anything else, I hated Zedd's retconning of the Cara/Leo thing. I was very ...
about it. It's like, Zedd Leo was not the fucking love of Cara's life, and goddamn fate did not send him back to her. Leo made some funny jokes that made Cara smile, they hooked up in a cave that one time, and then he died. Did they have potential? Hells yeah. Did she like him? Hells yeah. Was she in love with him? Fuck no.
And I guess the other thing that disappointed me about Cara's storyline was that she wasn't with Dahlia when she was all widowed. That's mostly my fault because I spent the whole time Cara wasn't on-screen imagining how cute it would be to see Dahlia and widow!Cara raising her kids together so when they weren't I was all ...
I raged a little less when I realized Dahlia had still been taken as child and was Mord'Sith and I thought that maybe all hope wasn't lost when Dahlia heard Cara's name at the temple and got all schmoopy for a second, but then Cara got three arrows in her and my new dreams of a Cara/Dahlia reunion were dashed again (unless Dahlia actually does give Cara the breath of life to bring her back, like she does in my dream world).
The whole thing just smacked a little of ... F/F = [Katy Perry]It's not what good girls do[/KP], and M/F = true love. I don't think the writers were consciously trying to express that, but it was there and I'm judging them.
Miranda Priestly and I do NOT approve of such shenanigans, intentional or not.
Tabrett Bethell is a golden goddesss!
Can we just talk about how awesome this woman is a little more. I really enjoyed her performance as Alt!Cara. She managed to really imbue Alt!Cara with some very recognizable Cara mannerisms, but she also really managed to soften those characteristics out in a way that was true to the new timeline. I loved how even her voice was different, softer and higher pitched (and slightly more Aussie than usual lol). Cara growl-talks because of her pain, ya'll! And that last scene where she was begging for her life *heart = broken*
Next week looks ... WHAT? I DON'T EVEN! Can't wait, shit looks like it's getting real and Cara seems to be back with the gang which makes me happy.
Really, not a bad episode, it just suffered from the episodes that proceeded it being ridiculously awesome.
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Date: 2010-05-16 05:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-16 06:10 am (UTC)She was amazing! I really enjoyed seeing Tab get to freely express some emotions in this episode. She's just as good even when she's not being a BAMF! Any Cara is a dreamy Cara it seems.
'm still all about the Tab/Bridget chemistry
This. Those two have AMAZING chemistry together. There's not getting past it. They're both wonderful actresses and work well with all their co-stars/guest stars, but there is something special when they are on screen together.
But yay for it anyway.
Truth!
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Date: 2010-05-16 05:42 am (UTC)Bah. Still lots of Tabby goodness though, I'm just greedy.
I'm not sure why, but I giggled and cheered at Cara when she was tied up for the spell of Undoing and was looking bored, like you said, but what made me giggle was the jittering. She was all like: "Yeah get it over and done with so I can commence with the badassery." and was all grinning and psycho jitters just make me gaaaah. <3
I have to agree with the Leo thing. When he appeared I actually cringed, when Zedd was all "Fated to be!" and whatnot there was more cringe.
Did they have potential? Hells yeah. Did she like him? Hells yeah. Was she in love with him? Fuck no.
This.
I am supremely excited for next weeks episode though, and am even more supremely excited that I've found a blog site that puts up new LotS eps almost instantly else I wouldn't be able to watch them at all!
MOAR CARA!
- Lia'
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Date: 2010-05-16 06:16 am (UTC)I know, I thought the ep. would be full of Cara (though, I have to say my expectations had been lowered a bit when I saw the promo pictures and Cara was in nary a one).
and was all grinning and psycho jitters just make me gaaaah.
I get you. I love Cara when she's wooby, but I love Cara when she's just fucking evil as well. All Cara is good Cara.
When he appeared I actually cringed, when Zedd was all "Fated to be!" and whatnot there was more cringe.
Yeah, it was a lot of cringing. In the case of Leo, moreso for the just the coincidence of Leo of all people coming along. Their scenes together weren't awful, and I like the actor that plays Leo, but the whole thing was just *sticks tongue out*
The Zedd thing was just really really infuriating though. I wish they'd just kept Cara's soldier husband alive so that we all could have been spared that 'fate' scene.
MOAR CARA!
This. Although ... after next week there may be no moar Cara ever and I can't even ... *sobs*
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Date: 2010-05-16 05:45 am (UTC)K confessed D in the preview but still felt like it was a waste of good drama for her to die.
And re:Zedd going on and on about Leo and Cara: guess what happened while u were sleeping Dude! Not sure if the writers meant for it to be ironic or what.
Oh well. Next week's ep looks like it's going to be amazing.
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Date: 2010-05-16 06:22 am (UTC)After last week I was hoping the show wouldn't drop the ball, and for once femslashers wouldn't have to turn to fic, but this week let me down. There's still a part of me that's hoping Dahlia will give Cara the breath of life, and we'll get some kind of sweetness between them before the timeline goes back to normal, but I doubt it. *sigh*
K confessed D in the preview but still felt like it was a waste of good drama for her to die.
Yeah, it was just so quick. And with all of the shenanigans that happened after we'll probably never really get to see Cara mourn her, and onscreen Kahlan and the others will probably never learn how close Cara and Dahlia really were which sucks. I knew Cara/Dahlia wouldn't work out, but I at least wanted their bond/relationship to be acknowledged by someone other than that evil mofo Darken Rahl.
Oh well. Next week's ep looks like it's going to be amazing.
Yeah, I cannot wait. It makes me really sad though as well. I don't want this ride to be over.
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Date: 2010-05-16 06:04 am (UTC)Yes, yes and YES!! Gah..I really hate it when they try to "break the gay" or make it seem less then it is..>_<
I'm gonna try now to purge the image of Leo kissing Cara with a drink and some c/k c/d fics..xD
And Tabrett..a goddess no doubt..<3
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Date: 2010-05-16 06:26 am (UTC)This. Last week's episode really gave me hope that LotS wasn't just pulling another GoGA sweepsweek rating ploy, but this weeks episode just shit all over last weeks. It was probably stupid to hope that they would actually continue to show C/D as being something tragic yet meaningful and beautiful, and I guess I'm stupid because I did.
I'm gonna try now to purge the image of Leo kissing Cara with a drink and some c/k c/d fics..xD
lol! I went out drinking right after the episode and it wasn't enough to lift the heavy blanket of disappointment that lay on me after this episode.
And Tabrett..a goddess no doubt..<3
This. The woman is a wonder. I hope to see lots more of her. I need a steady stream of Tab in my life, I really do.
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Date: 2010-05-16 06:40 am (UTC)I think that while you're on point about everything, my biggest problem is that this entire episode is just the same plot rehashed. First season? Big magical crap made us visit the Future. A future that wouldnt come to pass and would only stand as a possible AU. And of course it gets resolved so it becomes moot point and the waste of an hour.
This season ender? Ummm can anyone say "Big magical crap made us visit the Future. A future that wouldnt come to pass and would only stand as a possible AU. And of course it gets resolved so it becomes moot point and the waste of an hour"?
And again its all about Cara somehow being the root of the problem (first her agiel and now her badassery).
I mean seriously writers? This is a FANTASY story. Use some IMAGINATION.
That pisses me off the most. You got what is probably the last season and you just regurgitated an already completed plot.
Argh.
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Date: 2010-05-16 05:27 pm (UTC)Yeah, this was a big problem with the episode. it's like, you have two episode left and you're going to pull these useless shenanigans with one? It's like this episode really added nothing to the plot or our understanding of the characters. It's like, "Oh, Cara would have been gentler and longer hair and probably gotten knocked up young if she wasn't a Mord'sith? SHOCKING! Except that it's fucking obvious her life would've been like that." and "oooh, Richard and Kahlan are in love and want to have babies" REALLY? I NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED THAT. IT'S NOT LIKE THE LAST TWO EPISODE HAD IN DEPTH CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST TWO EPISODES!
*sigh*
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Date: 2010-05-17 02:19 am (UTC)Also, did you notice that even the resolution was a rehash? Reckoning: the solution was to repeat the same spell and that would automatically fix everything. I find it ridiculous that Zed is so confident that the spell will work the second time around. I was under the impression that this spell was highly unpredictable and uncontrollable lol I wish Mord Sith Cara was around to point that out :(
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Date: 2010-05-16 07:18 am (UTC)That pic....lolololol.
On the return of Leo, I saw this instead:
That's mostly my fault because I spent the whole time Cara wasn't on-screen imagining how cute it would be to see Dahlia and widow!Cara raising her kids together.
Me too. Lol.
I loved how even her voice was different, softer and higher pitched (and slightly more Aussie than usual lol). Cara growl-talks because of her pain, ya'll! And that last scene where she was begging for her life *heart = broken*
Noticed the slightly more Aussie too. Hehehe. I was all awwwwwww. Then Leo would speak and I was all grrrrrrrr. :P
edited because I'm a moron
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Date: 2010-05-16 05:40 pm (UTC)I know. I would be swooning over Tab's everything, and cooing about her accent slipping through, and then Leo would do something and ruin it. It was just so contrived and cheesy. I expected more from the show than such shenanigans.
And that .gif is pure gold.
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Date: 2010-05-16 07:54 am (UTC)I agree with everything you say,and pls write some stuff about C/D being all cute together,cos i haven't seen any,i'm devastated!
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Date: 2010-05-16 05:42 pm (UTC)After this episode I am seriously considering some retconning fic for this episode because I was highly disappointed by it. Highly disappointed.
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Date: 2010-05-16 07:58 am (UTC)For an episode about saving Cara, there was a criminal LACK of Cara. WTF? As soon as Rahl started reporting about Alt!Cara's life, I just cringed more and more. Yay, she's living in Stowecroft, that's good. Oh, a school teacher, that's pretty good. Mother of two, what? Widow with husband dead in the war, ewww... My face scrunched up with disgust even further when Leo popped up. WTF show, are you serious? Dahlia has a far stronger claim to be Cara's fated love than Leo and she is so much easier on the eyes.
And speaking of Dahlia, NOOOOOOOO! I knew she was going to die, but I wanted so bad for her to make it somehow. And her death was so quick, and meaningless. She didn't even help the cause when confessed. Loved Cara's reaction to her though. And I was so happy to see her again at the end. Laura Brent is kicking ass as Dahlia, she needs to be in the next epi, I need more Dahlia (and so does Cara).
Richard as the benevolent doofus ruler makes so much sense, it makes me want to smack him. That is just so him, to have lost the throne and need the crew to save him.
This episode seemed like filler almost, because had Zedd been able to undo the Undoing spell, they would have been exactly where they started. Borriiinnngg. The saving grace for this ep was Tabrett Bethell, no doubt. Loved her as Broken!Cara, so badass, and she rocked as Alt!Cara, her pleading made my heart break for her.
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Date: 2010-05-16 05:50 pm (UTC)lol! I know right. Cara would make some comment about endurance. At least Cara in a good episode would.
Yay, she's living in Stowecroft, that's good. Oh, a school teacher, that's pretty good. Mother of two, what? Widow with husband dead in the war, ewww...
*sigh* Even with all of that I still hoped that when they found her in Stowcroft, they would've found her and Dahlia in the garden when the kids ran around, so when Leo popped up I was like FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.
Dahlia has a far stronger claim to be Cara's fated love than Leo and she is so much easier on the eyes.
Dahlia/Cara was really a far better tragic/doomed ship and their relationship was far more involved. I actually think Leo's kind of cute, but it's like 'shit, show, I've already gotten my het action for the episode. Can I please just have a lezza relationship on screen. Can we please have some lezza true love?"
She didn't even help the cause when confessed.
I KNOW! That just added insult to injury. Like how awesome would it have been in Kahlan had heard Cara's scream and paused. And then like threatened Cara with Dahlia's life. At least it would have had some emotional impact even if Kahlan had had to eventually confess Dahlia. But in my dream world then Dahlia would've been tied to that tree with Cara and they could've been lezbefriends in Stowcroft in Alt!world.
The saving grace for this ep was Tabrett Bethell, no doubt.
Truth. Alt!Cara was really the only redeeming part of this episode, and that's mostly because Tab's so awesome not because the writers really did anything interesting with Alt!Cara.
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Date: 2010-05-17 01:05 am (UTC)They gave her enough hetero with the dead husband and kids, they really didn't need to add more with Leo. It felt like they were going overboard after the Dahlia reveal last week, overcompensating or something.
I actually think Leo's kind of cute
I liked Leo in his original episodes, he treated Cara like a real person and they were pretty good together. Like you said, she liked him etc, but no way was that fated LOVE. I was happy that he died and we didn't have to have more drawn out crap with him and Cara though. As for cute, I just want him to wear a proper shirt that covers his chest and to shave a little closer. I really don't like the 5 o'clock shadow and the chest hair.
At least it would have had some emotional impact even if Kahlan had had to eventually confess Dahlia.
So true. Kahlan and crew have no idea who Dahlia was to Cara, and there was so much potential wasted there. And Dahlia's death was so fast! I wanted more from Cara there, but there was no time for more than her scream.
I wasn't expecting last week to be so very awesome, so I was totally blown away by it. I think it raised my expectations too high. If I had gone into this week with no expectations, I don't think I would be so very disappointed at all the wasted potential.
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Date: 2010-05-16 09:46 am (UTC)I'm afraid that the two last (hopefully not!) episodes of The Seeker will be void of femslash content. I wish it weren't so. Perhaps my fears will be proven wrong, but can't help feeling it.
Also I almost had dropped this series before Desecrated, where the show made a play for my interest but it seems just a tease after all. Cara/Kahlan 4 life.
Please, show, prove me wrong. Just this once.
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Date: 2010-05-16 06:00 pm (UTC)I watched the whole thing, but I was hella bored and distracted at points. I was like checking my email and texting, and only paying half attention because frankly that didn't deserve my full attention.
kinda liked Leo and Cara together, but can't really take them seriously because it was: he told one joke, she laughed, and they fell in love. Then he comes out of nowhere and they're in love again. *facepalm*
This. First time around I really liked Leo, and I find the actor quite easy on the eyes as well, so I was fine with Cara/Leo at the beginning of the season. But there was really no reason to have brought him back for this, and the whole plotline was contrived, cheesy and not worthy of this show (though cheesy describes the whole episode really).
I'm afraid that the two last (hopefully not!) episodes of The Seeker will be void of femslash content. I wish it weren't so. Perhaps my fears will be proven wrong, but can't help feeling it.
Are there two more? I thought there was only one. Either way, like you I'm scared that it's going to be femslash deficient as well. Most of the next episode seems to take place in the real timeline where Dahlia is dead. And I'm worried with all the running around saving the world that we won't even get a satisfactory Cara/Kahlan reunion scene.
Please, show, prove me wrong. Just this once.
This. I just want to not be disappointed for once. I'm tired of being jerked around by shows and books. It's like for once I just want someone to have the integrity to follow through.
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Date: 2010-05-16 11:22 am (UTC)....also Dahlia and Cara were totes BFFs when they were children.
I agree, it was not a bad episode but that was partly maybe due to the fact that I watched it with very low expectations. And despite the Leo WTF appearance, I decided to watch it (i kinda promised myself not to) as there is such a thing as a FWD button.
>Tabrett Bethell is a golden goddesss!
AGREED A ZILLION TIMES. I don't have enough words to describe what a fantastic actress she is. She killed me in that scene where she was begging for her life and her children :(
>Dahlia's death was heartbreaking (Laura Bent did a fantastic job with Dahlia when she was confessed and talking with Kahlan)
YESYESYES, I even hated Kahlan for confessing her. And sure, Kahlan confessed her to find out where the stone is - and this actually made sense to me considering Dahlia was the one who lured Cara into a trap and the obvious one who is privy to any of Darken Rahl's plan - but who else thought that Kahlan also did it out of anger?
>"If you're going to serve me, you have to do it now." I usually love it when Kahlan gets all feisty and badass, but that just sounded smug to me. And it ended up being useless as Dahlia knew nothing. WHY KAHLAN ARE YOU JELUZZZ?
>When Cara was all tied up (I must say Cara is so good at being bad, loved the jiggling :D) , Kahlan kept her distance and looked so angry. I don't know what kind of direction Bridget got for that scene...was it because Kahlan was feeling angry and betrayed that Cara was broken or in this context, allowed herself to be broken? She didn't even talk to Cara....what was up with that? And the entire time Zedd was explaining the Spell of Undoing, she kept looking at Richard to make the decision. I didn't like this Kahlan at all. Though I do not fault her for thinking that the C/K love will surpass any obstacles or magic LOLZ.
I must admit, I skipped a lot of scenes, maybe I need to watch the episode in full.
But yes, from next week's preview it looks like Cara is back to the fold. I won't be settling for anything less than at least epic hugs all around once Kahlan and the rest find out that they have Cara back!
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Date: 2010-05-16 06:19 pm (UTC)This, they'd have had to be for Dahlia to have said her name like that all those years later. They were totes crushing on each other even as kids, and somehow Leo is Cara's true love? FU show.
I don't have enough words to describe what a fantastic actress she is. She killed me in that scene where she was begging for her life and her children :(
I completely agree. That scene was heartbreaking. I was such a joy to see Tab being allowed to show such a range of emotions.
I even hated Kahlan for confessing her.
Yeah, from Kahlan's perspective she was just doing what was necessary, but from a viewers perspective it HURT. And I too think that there was definitely a part of her that wanted to punish Dahlia for how she had betrayed Cara.
Kahlan kept her distance and looked so angry. I don't know what kind of direction Bridget got for that scene...was it because Kahlan was feeling angry and betrayed that Cara was broken or in this context, allowed herself to be broken?
That was a really interesting set up. I saw it as, Kahlan was really closer to Cara than Richard or Zedd so seeing Cara as she was was harder for Kahlan than the other two. I think she knew she couldn't be objective when it came to Cara because she was too angry at what had been done to Cara and heartbroken by it. It was like she was trying to protect herself emotionally by keeping her distance. Cara couldn't spew her newly broken venom at Kahlan and hurt her if Kahlan wasn't in range.
maybe I need to watch the episode in full.
I really don't think you do. Like nothing happened. You'll just be bored again.
I won't be settling for anything less than at least epic hugs all around once Kahlan and the rest find out that they have Cara back!
After this episode I'm really scared that we won't get an epic reunion scene with hugs from C/K. I'm so scared Cara returning will be glossed over. TPTB have really weakened my trust in them with this ep.
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Date: 2010-05-16 11:38 am (UTC)It wasn't a bad episode, as such, and Richard/Kahlan can be kind of cute (in very small doses) but if they were going to go all AU on us, they could have made the new universe a little more interesting. Heck, I want the universe where there's no Seeker and Kahlan, Cara and the Mord'Sith have defeated the evil of Darken Rahl and the First Wizard.
I want Dahlia back.
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Date: 2010-05-16 08:32 pm (UTC)It was very, very rage inducing. And it was particularly infuriating after they tricked us into thinking they were taking C/D seriously last episode.
What made it worse, was that they were not only bad, but they were all manipulated by men, and their inherent gayness was therefore coloured bad by association.
Totally. It was like "Girl Power and Girl Love = Evil" all episode, and worse than that, even powerful women still need to be directed/controlled by men.
they could have made the new universe a little more interesting.
Yeah, as far as AU worlds go this one was flipping boring. It was like fanfic written by a 13 year old.
I want Dahlia back.
Me too!
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Date: 2010-05-16 01:12 pm (UTC)Our minds are totally in LotS Sync! I was thinking that too. When they said Cara was married, I was like, "No, Peeen!" and they said she was a widow, and I was like "Ohhhh, her and Dahlia are playing Heather has two Mommies!" and then I saw Dahlia Mord Sith and I was like, "Aw man, well okay, maybe she'll try to kill her and won't be able to do it," and that didn't happen. So I'm with you, holdin out hope that Cara brings her back.
The whole thing just smacked a little of ... F/F = [Katy Perry]It's not what good girls do[/KP], and M/F = true love. I don't think the writers were consciously trying to express that, but it was there and I'm judging them. "
Again, ITA! I'm not saying it was done consciously either, but there definitely is not a lesbian on their writing staff, because she would read that and called bullshit!
Can we just talk about how awesome this woman is a little more.
We can talk about it until the end of time and still have more to say because that woman is just so fucking good.
Really, not a bad episode, it just suffered from the episodes that proceeded it being ridiculously awesome
Well said! I was entertained overall, but it suffered from the comparison and lack of Cara. I liked the R/K schmoopiness too. The two deserved some sexi-times.
Next week does look epic. Looks like Sister Nicci is trying out some Stevie Nicks getup and I'm feelin it.
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Date: 2010-05-16 08:38 pm (UTC)They gave so many perfect setups for C/D and then shit all over them. If Dahlia doesn't attempt to give Cara the breath of life I'mma be so pissed.
We can talk about it until the end of time and still have more to say because that woman is just so fucking good.
So true. There really is no way to praise the woman enough.
Looks like Sister Nicci is trying out some Stevie Nicks getup and I'm feelin it.
I'm going to have to watch the preview again because I was so underwhelmed by the ep that I wasn't really paying attention.
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Date: 2010-05-16 02:05 pm (UTC)I was fine with the Kahlan/Richard parts in the beginning and it was kinda sweet to see them being able to 'consummate' their relationship in the AU Midlands.
Then came Leo...and the massive eye rolling moments that followed... I really think it's part of the writer's plan to make the viewers want to go back to the better and far gayer Midlands. Well, they succeeded. Can't wait for the next ep. Seems like Cara is back with the scooby gang! =D
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Date: 2010-05-16 08:40 pm (UTC)This. I was happy seeing them happy.
I really think it's part of the writer's plan to make the viewers want to go back to the better and far gayer Midlands. Well, they succeeded.
Totally. Job well done writers. I want the real timeline like whoa. Gimme the rift and banelings if it means Cara gazing lovingly at women.
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Date: 2010-05-16 03:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-16 08:47 pm (UTC)I KNOW! It was such a let down. I had like Legend of the Seeker fever for the past month, every episode like ratcheting up my excitement until it almost made me feel high and then ... this. *sigh*
They were like... neutered is the first word that comes to mind which might not be appropiate since there was all the breeding... but it's all I can come up with.
Yeah, it's true. It especially bugged with Kahlan though, who after her baby smiles was just kinda standing around looking confused and sad.
Like you said, the whole thing was just kind of boring, and I am not used to using the word 'boring' in relation to Legend of the Seeker.
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Date: 2010-05-16 05:10 pm (UTC)Tab was a goddess, as usual. The woman is... I can't even find the word..
Dahlia must've been really close to her as a child to even remember her now that she was a mord'sith (in my universe, Cara would've been her first love).
I wish Leo didn't show up.
Bridget's smile.. and her naked shoulder... *die* Now I'm gonna go imagining those white shoulder next to slightly tanned shoulder with blond hair brushing over it.
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Date: 2010-05-16 08:51 pm (UTC)Totes. I was like, "What crack are you smoking Zedd? Gimme some, cause it's the only thing that will make this episode entertaining to me."
The woman is... I can't even find the word..
You can't explain Tab, you can only experience her majesty and weep with joy.
Dahlia must've been really close to her as a child to even remember her now that she was a mord'sith (in my universe, Cara would've been her first love).
I know, it's like you have a Mord'Sith softly whispering the name of a childhood friend, a Mord'Sith thinking tenderly about someone and then you're going to shove Zedd's "fate" speech down my throat. *ugh*
Now I'm gonna go imagining those white shoulder next to slightly tanned shoulder with blond hair brushing over it.
That's definitely the way to go. That mental image is happy-making, and I need some happy after that ep.
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Date: 2010-05-16 05:48 pm (UTC)And Richard kind of made me want to smack him over the head (except when with Kahlan, because those two really are adorable)
And really, Kahlan and Zedd just tie alt!Cara to a tree and say "BTW, we have to do some crazy spell on you to save the world. Your children with most likely never exist, and you'll be tortured for years before you become an agent of evil. It's not a big deal, really" The poor lady was terrified for her kids :(((((
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Date: 2010-05-16 08:53 pm (UTC)I'm pretty sure Cara (aka Tab) can do no wrong in my eyes, so I loved her part of the storyline :)
Yeah, the woman is perfect. She just awes me all the time. Just thinking about her improves my day, lol.
r lady was terrified for her kids :(((((
That scene was pretty brutal. Tab was fantastic, and you could really see Kahlan struggling with the horror of what they were doing in the face of Cara's distress. It was necessary, but it was hard to watch. There was good acting all over the place in that scene.
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Date: 2010-05-16 08:14 pm (UTC)Very angry to see Leo, liked him better when he was being all dead. Also pissed that Dahlia died but truly, that death scene was acted out perfectly.
On the other hand, was nice to see Jennsen again and even though there certainly wasn't enough Cara, what there was of her was perfect. Tabrett Bethell kills me, I love her.
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Date: 2010-05-16 08:58 pm (UTC)Yeah. I was just like "So, uh ... that's it?"
that death scene was acted out perfectly.
It was. Laura Brent saved it from being really rage inducing by being completely awesome when she was confessed. The emotion ... guh. It really makes me wish that I we had gotten to see Tab and Laura in more scene together because they both have skills and it would have been beautiful.
was nice to see Jennsen again
Yeah, it was. I'd just been thinking about the fact that Jennsen hadn't been seen or heard from so I was glad to see the writers remembered her. Still there was way too much WTF on the whole.
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Date: 2010-05-16 10:47 pm (UTC)I know! When I heard Zedd telling Kahlan how fate had brought them together I was like.....
I can only blame myself too for picturing how sweet Cara and Dahlia could have been. I should have known better to set myself up like that. But I mean it's one thing to not have C/D be together, but it's another thing to have Leo return and be all like, 'oh look see, it was meant to be!'
Cara and Dahlia seemed more real in their one episode together than Cara and Leo. Cara and Dahlia found love in each other despite all that was forced upon them, that sounds more like fate to me, than one night of hot sex in a cave.
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Date: 2010-05-17 12:10 am (UTC)But I mean it's one thing to not have C/D be together, but it's another thing to have Leo return and be all like, 'oh look see, it was meant to be!'
This. It's like, "Okay, Dahlia's still mord'sith. Fine." But there was no reason to bring Leo back just to crap all over the C/D scenes from the last episode. Honestly, Leo being there added nothing. Personally, I would have loved to have had Alt!Cara's scenes just have been with her children, or maybe one of her at school teaching. We would have gotten to see happy, well-adjusted, emotional Cara without all of the retconning, WTF, and cheese that Leo's involvement brought on.
Cara and Dahlia seemed more real in their one episode together than Cara and Leo.
This. Cara and Dahlia had an actual relationship with each other, whereas Cara and Leo were just like flirting with other (and one night standing cause it's Cara). Who knows where it would have gone if Leo wasn't turned into a crispy critter, but as it was it certainly wasn't love.
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Date: 2010-05-17 01:57 am (UTC)Yes, I thought that this whole ordeal was appropriate enough to bring out the Eva.
I forgot to mention how sad I was to see that Dahlia was a Mord'sith in this AU. Poor girl really can't catch a break, can she? I would have liked a scene where Alt Cara saw Dahlia. Even though I shouldn't, I'm still hoping we'll get one in next weeks episode.
Or you know what else would have worked? Alt!Cara with her big sister/Dad. Since they already introduced us to them and we saw how much Cara being taken had an affect on her. So it would have been nice to see how adjusted as a family they are now that they have Cara.
If anything all we got was how great Leo is. No matter what universe you're in Leo will always be such a swell guy!
It just doesn't make sense to give us all the Cara and Dahlia they did last week, only to make nothing of it. Unless Tab and Laura were putting more into the performance than was intended by the director/writer. I just don't know.
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Date: 2010-05-17 02:56 am (UTC)Poor Dahlia. Honestly, when I saw that Cara wasn't Mord'Sith I assumed Dahlia wouldn't have been as well since they were captured on the same raid, which is one of the reasons I was pissed not to see her hanging out with Alt!Cara. To see that she was still Mord'Sith and would therefore likely meet another unpleasant end was just heartbreaking.
I would have liked a scene where Alt Cara saw Dahlia. Even though I shouldn't, I'm still hoping we'll get one in next weeks episode.
I'm hoping for it too. I'm lowering my expectations and assuming it won't happen, but I do really hope to see it.
Or you know what else would have worked? Alt!Cara with her big sister/Dad. Since they already introduced us to them and we saw how much Cara being taken had an affect on her. So it would have been nice to see how adjusted as a family they are now that they have Cara.
This would have been perfect. It's so perfect in fact that my RAGE over the Leo shenanigans has been increased x infinity because your idea is golden. That would have been a beautiful thing to see. Cara, Dad, Mom, Sister and kids sitting down to dinner. Cara and Sis working in the garden talking about what little monkeys the kids are. And then, because I'm a shipper, Sis teasing Cara about Dahlia stopping by the schoolhouse again or something like that.
*sigh* It would have been SO perfect!
Unless Tab and Laura were putting more into the performance than was intended by the director/writer.
If so just one more reason to love the hell out of Tab, and clap for Laura.
Also, wonderful use of Arthur Pendragon!
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Date: 2010-05-17 08:42 pm (UTC)I feel your rage, my friend. I always thought it was so touching that the Mord'sith couldn't break Cara's father. It would have been nice to see him alive and well. Discovering that she killed her innocent father was one of the main reasons Cara started on her road to redemption. So it makes so much more sense to show her family again.
Awww that would have been so cute. We could have seen Cara blushing. Although, like
It just would have more emotionally upsetting if we saw Cara and her family so happy and knowing that even in this AU they were going to lose Cara.
I just have to keep reminding myself that is an Alternative Universe and that just because Cara and Dahlia aren't together in this one or the other one, doesn't mean that somewhere out there, Cara and Dahlia are very happy.
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Date: 2010-05-17 01:52 am (UTC)UGH, I CAN'T EVEN. Seriously. My roommates collectively groaned and were suddenly a chorus of "Go away!" "Why the fuck is he here?" "WHAT IS GOING ON?"
She managed to really imbue Alt!Cara with some very recognizable Cara mannerisms, but she also really managed to soften those characteristics out in a way that was true to the new timeline.
I think that was my favorite part of watching this episode. Cara was still Cara, but... just a different path in life. It lends such a real consistency to her character and behavior. And the scene with Cara begging for her life and just spilling out with emotions and all the things that mean anything to her (i.e. kids!) while Kahlan looks like it's taking so much effort to maintain her Confessor face. I loved it.
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Date: 2010-05-17 03:00 am (UTC)*sigh* I know. I comment above this was talking about how it would have been great to have gotten to see Cara's FAMILY in this Alt!verse. You know, her father and sister, and that idea is so perfect that the Leo debacle enrages me even more.
while Kahlan looks like it's taking so much effort to maintain her Confessor face.
Yeah, Kahlan looked like she was getting her heart ripped out having to listen to Cara. I love that even knowing each other for like five minutes in an alt!verse that Kahlan still looks all schmoopy like at Cara. Bridget and Tab just can't stay away from the emotional!porn.
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Date: 2010-05-17 03:20 am (UTC)That's so true. This was a perfect time to really delve into Cara through the mirror of her alternate self. It had spotlights on and night wisps hovering around it... How did the writers not see it!? Which makes me think they did and they just want to test our resolve for keeping the show.
Bridget and Tab just can't stay away from the emotional!porn.
Oh, oh! I've definitely been feeling like the two actresses have hit a certain stride or synchronicity in how their characters interact or react because of the other. Like, when Richard and Zedd are talking about how to deal with superevil!Cara and Kahlan just looks like a lost little child who doesn't know how to solve the problem, but desperately wants it to be fixed. I'm just not feeling that from the other pairs of characters.
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Date: 2010-05-17 10:17 am (UTC)The thing about Leo is that I really liked him first time he was introduced, like REALLY liked him! He was super cute, him hooking up with Cara was great. I was sad to see him die.
But in this ep I was like WTF man?! I guess it's just too soon after Dahlia.
If they want to show girl/girl in just the sexploitain way, fine! But than why the FEELINGS?! If Cara/Dahlia was only about sex and Cara/Leo about love then they should've show it this way, not like when one ep Cara CARES for Dahlia and the very next one they bring Leo back and shove the TRU LUV AND FATE crap on us.
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Date: 2010-05-17 05:31 pm (UTC)..it was kind of a letdown.
I agree. For me, it was the alternate universe aspect. As much as I love AU's, this felt like filler and, also, NOTHING HAPPENED!! I feel like if PTB are going to use AU storylines, they should at least have them run for more than one episode and make me believe the characters could actually be stuck there.
I was like WTF, where did this bastard come from again and can he please go back!
As much as I
toleratedliked Leo the first time around. This time? I was like - the ONLY reason I want to see this fucker is so I can have the pleasure of watching him DIE AGAIN!! And then, HE DIDN'T EVEN DIE, just disappeared!And I guess the other thing that disappointed me about Cara's storyline was that she wasn't with Dahlia when she was all widowed.
Heh, I don't think it was your fault for assuming such. Especially after the EPIC setup of Cara and Dahlia's relationship in the previous episode. I honestly can't believe TPTB want me to think LEO is more important to Cara's life than either her, you know, ACTUAL FAMILY or Dahlia!!
The whole thing just smacked a little of ... F/F = [Katy Perry]It's not what good girls do[/KP], and M/F = true love.
I think those elements have always been in the series (coming from book canon). It's just TPTB have always been much, MUCH better at avoiding/softening the blow. Here, they seriously dropped the ball. As someone commented, it was like Kahlan and Cara had been neutered. It almost makes me wonder if that was the point. Then I remember they brought back Leo and tried to tell me he was the love of her life. So, yeah, sketchy, sketchy, sketchy.
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Date: 2010-05-31 01:01 am (UTC)ultimately AU tends towards the pointless since it just 'poofs' away at the end of the episode/arc. If done well it can be worth it to make a poignant commentary on the regular timeline, and this sort of did.. a sort of look how different the world is w/o Mistress Cara. Cara is important. well duh! she is only our favorite character. Other benefits include Tabrett Bethell's perfect portrayal of alt!Cara and while we cough about the soulmateyness of Cara+Leo (someone somewhere suggested that Cara should've been shown w/ her family and i couldn't agree more) we also get the chills from Zedd and Kahlan plotting to destroy innocent alt!Cara (b/c it is kahlan and zedd is this somehow supposed to be less awful than the mord'sith destroying her in regular time?) plus we get alt!Cara's gut-wrenching pleading and terror.
BUT, w/ only 2 eps left we don't have TIME for this frivolousness, especially if it is at the price of more Cara screen time. That is just a bad deal. One more good thing about it though is that it shows a serious consequence to magic, b/c on a show where magic exists it could be easy/lazy to use a spell to fix everything (though in the end it sort of does). ugh... the more i think about it the more it seems like a mostly good story... it just needed more Cara. obvi.
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Date: 2010-05-31 04:23 am (UTC)"who's cara?"
"sharp tongue, red leather, carries 2 agiels."