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By PKJ standards a very good episode. Definately an improvement over last week, which I loathed.

I've been complaining about the writers inability to present a believable friendship between Jane and Mo, but they did a much better job this week. I mean I was amazed to see them hanging out in their spare time (eveen if they had to throw Riley in there), they smiled at each other like they actually enjoyed each others presence, Jane wanted Mo to be there with her in the hospital after the bone marrow extraction, Baumgardner identified Mo as the person Jane trusted most, and they made some inside joke references to Jane and Mo being at the academy together (though I must say I think its rather unlikely they would have gone to the academy together and been friends and then been assigned as partners after graduation). Hell, there were even some looks that could be considered subtextual.

I like female!nurse with the girl!crush on Jane. I wish she hadn't died, she was smart and trying to help out, and she really wanted to make out with Jane. Another sign the writing this episode was more competent than usual was that I cared about this side character.

Loken did a good job this episode. I felt for Jane, and for once the character didn't do anything extremely stupid or irritating. I was actually kind of impressed by that tape trick she used. Though the writers really didn't need to go through that "AND I didn't see you limping, AND you wouldn't have gone out with geeky guy, AND you don't like scrambled eggs" thing from the end. We all got it when we saw her lower back and that there was no salamander tattoo. The flashbacks really must be a command from higher up because they're in every episode, and they're all so completely unnecessary.

Mohinder has absolutely no charisma whatsoever. If someone has to be killed off this season and it can't be McBride I vote for this dead weight. He's just so awkward.

I don't know why but Jane's constant bitching about having to drive cracked me up. It's like she knew that Baumgarnder was faking the ankle thing, so she didn't need to keep asking, but she did anyway. Maybe in was Loken's whiney "fiiiiiiine" delivery everytime Jane asked, but I got a laugh out of that.

Other moments that were funny (maybe only to me, but that I enjoyed anyway):

- Mo being a little princess during the "escape" from the hospital. "Oh, my guns jammed ... ooh, my ankle hurts!" Oh, fake!Mo.

- That guy in the truck eying Jane while she was pumping gas and making a kissy face resulting in the beautiful rolled eyes/disgusted face from Jane. Jane's disgusted face amuses me.

- Jane manhandling Riley at the end. I'd been noticing all episode how much shorter he was than her, so it was just funny to see her pick him and and swing him around like a little kid at the end. Oh, Lokinator. You're so dreamy.

- Jane's deep thoughts about friendship at the end. "We often take our friends for granted until something happens that makes us appreciate them more" Okay, obvious but not ridiculous, so far so good. "Like being there for us when we breakup with our boyfriends, or when we realize that they don't really want us to be dissected in medical experiments and locked up for killing one of them". Um, Jane, muffin, I think that might just be you. Oh, wait no, just like week I was all like "Hey, thanks for helping me move my stuff Brandon. You know what would make me sad? If you were dissected in a medical experiment and locked up for trying to kill Adam. Don't ever do that, 'kay? So, Mongolian for lunch?"

- The fact that when female!nurse asked if there was anything she could get Jane, Jane flashed back to Mo's sexy lower back. Not her face, not her eyes, her lower back and low waisted jeans that slid down just far enough to hint at something tantalizing and forbidden.

But of course, because this is PKJ there were some WTF moments.

1. Baumgardner shifting shape in the middle of the hallway, right after talking to someone who was looking directly at him. WTF!

2. Female!Nurse making that highly incriminating phonecall at her station in the middle of the hallway at night when there were no people around to mask the conversation. "Um, hello, yes I think my boss may be an evil fake, please tell me if I'm right. Tomorrow is fine because I'm here all by myself with no one around to help me or hear me scream and we want to give anyone plenty of time to catch me, kill me and dispose of my body before any one is the wiser. Thanks!"

3. Jane's effusive hugging of Connor at the end of the episode. Why?

4. Jane getting that gas pump to stop directly on $23.47, yeah right! Damn, you Petro Canada my total is always like $30.01. So, frustrating!

That being said, we better see more of Jane being weary of the motivations of the team and her place on it because of her ability. Like this better be building towards something dammit. I want them to at least pretend there's there's an overall story arc and character development for the season.

That being said, one of the least painful PKJ's to date.

Date: 2007-06-10 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki1200.livejournal.com
By PKJ standards a very good episode.

I was kind of floored, but this episode was actually executed pretty well for the first three quarters of it. It's almost like they had two different writers. A new one for the first part, and one from the usual group for the last part.
Baumgardner identified Mo as the person Jane trusted most

The most subtext we've had since episoe one and Jane screaming "Mo!"

I must say I think its rather unlikely they would have gone to the academy together and been friends and then been assigned as partners after graduation

Totally. The funny thing is I considered writing a fic of the two of them hanging out while they were at the academy but ruled it out because it seemed too unlikely they would have ended out as partners.

Though the writers really didn't need to go through that "AND I didn't see you limping, AND you wouldn't have gone out with geeky guy, AND you don't like scrambled eggs" thing from the end

Whose idea was it that the audience needed all this recap? There's someone on this show's PTB who's just not thinking right about what the viewers can figure out.

The fact that when female!nurse asked if there was anything she could get Jane, Jane flashed back to Mo's sexy lower back. Not her face, not her eyes, her lower back and low waisted jeans that slid down just far enough to hint at something tantalizing and forbidden.

Yeah? How could I miss that??? It was a little late when I watched the ep, but still, I'm amazed I could miss it ;).

Just hoping they keep whoever wrote the first part around so that we can get the eye candy without cringing too much every week.

Date: 2007-06-10 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I was kind of floored, but this episode was actually executed pretty well for the first three quarters of it. It's almost like they had two different writers. A new one for the first part, and one from the usual group for the last part.

Yeah, I know 3/4ths of it were so good, then it turned into a typical PKJ episode, lol. I'm just going to try to erase everything that happened after the shot of Mo pointing a gun at herself. The episode totally should have just ended there. Maybe if they had time to kill they could have shown us Jane showering and settling down with a glass of wine after a hard couple of days or something to kill time. Definitely would have been better than what we got.

The most subtext we've had since episoe one and Jane screaming "Mo!"

And Mo crying her eyes out in Jane's apartment. But, yeah so true. It's just like, you can't start off the show presenting them being THAT close (I mean, Mo had to have had a key to get into Jane's apartment) and then totally run away from it afterwards.

Totally. The funny thing is I considered writing a fic of the two of them hanging out while they were at the academy but ruled it out because it seemed too unlikely they would have ended out as partners.

LOL. Oh, PKJ writers. *shakes head* You could as well go ahead with the fic now that the writers have thrown common sense out of the window. They are such hacks. They could have had everything in that scene be the same, only replaced "1st year at the academy" with "1st case we worked" and it would have been fine. The little things like this kill me.

Whose idea was it that the audience needed all this recap? There's someone on this show's PTB who's just not thinking right about what the viewers can figure out.

I know, it's like they think the audience for this show has an average age of 5. PKJ producers, you're show isn't that smart, we can figure it out. I've never seen a show that dumbs things down for its audience so much.

Yeah? How could I miss that??? It was a little late when I watched the ep, but still, I'm amazed I could miss it ;).

Check it out, it's pretty amusing. Totally love that of all the things in the world she's jonesin' for Mo's ass.

Just hoping they keep whoever wrote the first part around so that we can get the eye candy without cringing too much every week.

So true. I'm hoping next weeks will be of the same caliber, but I'm not expecting it with this show.

Date: 2007-06-10 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stefaneus.livejournal.com
They could have had everything in that scene be the same, only replaced "1st year at the academy" with "1st case we worked" and it would have been fine. The little things like this kill me.

I'd like to point out that according to the comics canon they really were at the academy in the same class and later got together for a special case team.
-> The PKJ origin story.

Check it out, it's pretty amusing. Totally love that of all the things in the world she's jonesin' for Mo's ass.

I'm still waiting for the episode to finish downloading, but you're getting my hopes up. :-)

Date: 2007-06-10 08:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki1200.livejournal.com
I'd like to point out that according to the comics canon they really were at the academy in the same class and later got together for a special case team.

Hey, thanks for the research and the pointer :)

Date: 2007-06-10 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stefaneus.livejournal.com
Oh, I just checked the one story arc that I just can't find all the issues of, and it's even better. They were not only in the same class, they were in the same room too. There is a flashback on Jane and Maureen on the same bed with Mo's hands around Jane's shoulders and Jane says: "Our police academy dorm room... Maureen... that time was the best time of my life." *snicker*

So, is the fic coming back again? :)

Date: 2007-06-11 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
There is a flashback on Jane and Maureen on the same bed with Mo's hands around Jane's shoulders and Jane says: "Our police academy dorm room... Maureen... that time was the best time of my life." *snicker*

Now, that's a flashback I'd like to see on the show!

But it's probably more likely that if we got a flashback to their academy days it would involve them standing at opposite sides of the room not looking at each other while flirting with some sketchy guy before the scene ends abruptly.

*hopes for fic*

Date: 2007-06-10 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki1200.livejournal.com
you can't start off the show presenting them being THAT close (I mean, Mo had to have had a key to get into Jane's apartment) and then totally run away from it afterwards.

I know, that really killed my fic impulses. Although now that I know it's canon, the academy thing may be doable. The PKJ timeframe just needs so much help to inspire fanfic, although after this ep it seem much more possible.

Date: 2007-06-11 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know. With fic for this show you pretty much have to pretend that the pilot is the only episode that's aired, lol. Or else, just ignore the majority of what happens every episode, which is actually probably a good idea in general ;)

Date: 2007-06-10 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trancer21.livejournal.com
By PKJ standards a very good episode.

I *know*. Then it sorta fell apart with the Scooby-Doo esque recap near the end. Like WTF? people!! I liked that it was an episode *about* Jane, with Jane being proactive and not acting stupid, even if she was a little defeatist. I was surprised at how much McBride's spiel affected her when they haven't given us that much of a reason to believe she regards his opinions so highly.

Jane's effusive hugging of Connor at the end of the episode. Why?

God, that part actually pissed me off. All episode long we'd been told and *shown* how much Mo means to Jane and, when it's all over, the first person she hugs is Connor? Again - WTF!?! Especially after we've been shown Jane believes Connor, at his heart, neither likes nor trusts her because of her Neuro status. I'm not saying I want Jane and Mo making out in an alleyway or something (although that would totally rock) but don't make a point of telling and showing me how close of friends they are then *not* have them be physically affectionate with each other when Jane's giving out hugs like they're candy.

I finally figured out why I dislike Riley, especially after seeing Drunk!Riley - he reminds me of that druggie from 'Dirt'. You know, the one hanging out with Garbo and bogarting in on the sex with Julia. Like, dude, go home and take a bath. Or, you know, just go away!

Date: 2007-06-10 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki1200.livejournal.com
All episode long we'd been told and *shown* how much Mo means to Jane and, when it's all over, the first person she hugs is Connor?

It was really silly how Jane was all touchy feely with all of them (esp Connor which she barely tolerates) and it was strictly no touchy with Mo. Totally stuck out. It's hurting the show too because the relationship between Jane and Mo should be the emotional center of the show esp now that Jane's going to have to deal with being a neuro. We barely care about these people as it is, don't take away the only relationship that makes Jane seem human.

Ironically, Jane's interactions/hugs with Connor and Riley were so "gay" that it's not going to help make her seem straight either.
I love how butch Kristanna is in this episode too. C'mon, give it up people, the loser fanboys and fangirls watching PKJ don't care that's she's gay or bi or whatever. We love her for it :).

Date: 2007-06-10 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
It's hurting the show too because the relationship between Jane and Mo should be the emotional center of the show esp now that Jane's going to have to deal with being a neuro. We barely care about these people as it is, don't take away the only relationship that makes Jane seem human.

Word. It's like when Jane did that, I was like "what an asshole". I mean, Mo was part of the team effort and Jane thanks everyone BUT her with a hug. Like, the lack of affection between them really hurts both of their characters.

I mean with the set up of the show they're relationship would have to be more Barbara and Helena from Bird of Prey (as in het relationship mentioned ALL the time, but they're relationship is the heart and at the front and center), instead of Xena and Gabrielle (true love), but right now it's just nothing. Like sometimes (*cough*lastepisode*cough*) they don't even seem like they like each other.

Ironically, Jane's interactions/hugs with Connor and Riley were so "gay" that it's not going to help make her seem straight either.

LOL. So true, especially the interactions with Riley. He couldn't be any more desexualized to her unless they dressed him up like a girl. That hug at the end was so hilariously 'dude-ish'.

C'mon, give it up people, the loser fanboys and fangirls watching PKJ don't care that's she's gay or bi or whatever. We love her for it :).

So true. I mean, 'straight' to the writers seems to mean booty call, and fanboys don't even like the objects of their affections to be ho's. I mean, damn, even S&M club member Emma Frost has settled down. Jane being an inconsiderate ho doesn't appeal to anyone.

Date: 2007-06-10 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I *know*. Then it sorta fell apart with the Scooby-Doo esque recap near the end. Like WTF?

So incredibly amateur. It's like, 'Producers, this is PKJ not Shakespeare. You're show isn't that smart, we can follow what's happening. In fact we usually know what's happening five minutes into the episode.'.

I liked that it was an episode *about* Jane, with Jane being proactive and not acting stupid, even if she was a little defeatist. I was surprised at how much McBride's spiel affected her when they haven't given us that much of a reason to believe she regards his opinions so highly.

So true. JANE is the heart of the show and should be the focus of it. And Kristanna is, at least with the material we've seen so far, the best actor on the show or least one of the only one's with any presence and charisma so just let her be the frakking lead!

I totally hate how they always have Jane caring so much about McBride's opinion. It's like if they wanted him to be a defacto father figure or something, they first needed to actually show us that Jane has a crappy relationship with her father (and no, the 'he took me to the movies and fed me ice-cream' crap from the second episode doesn't count), and then they needed to set up some reason for Jane to view McBride as such. I can't really think of how because I hate McBride and I don't like that idea, but if it's what they were going for they completely screwed it up.

I'm not saying I want Jane and Mo making out in an alleyway or something (although that would totally rock) but don't make a point of telling and showing me how close of friends they are then *not* have them be physically affectionate with each other when Jane's giving out hugs like they're candy.

That's the thing. The lack of physcial affection is so GLARINGLY obvious. It's painfully obvious that they're trying to avoid any suggestion that Jane and Mo could be more than just friends, but they're drawing even MORE attention to it by writing them this way. Not to mention that it makes the main character seem like an an ice-cold asshat that she treats someone she's known for years like a piece of shit.

And I don't even get why they're so afraid of subtext. It's like girls kissing never hurt a show. In fact most shows TRY to inject subtext in there. And really, people can slash ANYTHING! I mean, god help me but PKJ could stand to take a page out of Birds of Prey's book, cause they shoved Barbara and Helena's het love interests down our throats, but they still managed to portray them as friends who cared about and respected each other.

I finally figured out why I dislike Riley, especially after seeing Drunk!Riley - he reminds me of that druggie from 'Dirt'. You know, the one hanging out with Garbo and bogarting in on the sex with Julia. Like, dude, go home and take a bath. Or, you know, just go away!

OMG! You're so right. He's "That" guy. I hate "That" guy.

In fact, I gotta say I was totally worried when Jane was waking up all groggy with that beeping that kind of sounded like an alarm clock that they were going to have a 'morning after' scenario with Jane and Riley, which would have SCARRED ME.

Date: 2007-06-10 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trancer21.livejournal.com
I totally hate how they always have Jane caring so much about McBride's opinion.

Oh God, I just realized what this show reminds me of - it's Dark Angel if Max were actually working for Manticore and under Lydecker! Oh man, you know it's bad when I'm referencing Dark Angel as the better show.. 'cuz I *hated* that friggin' show. And yet, this still managed to make Max look like a bigger badass than Jane.

It's painfully obvious that they're trying to avoid any suggestion that Jane and Mo could be more than just friends, but they're drawing even MORE attention to it by writing them this way.

It's to the point where I wanna throw the 'homophobic' word out there. Which I don't wanna seeing as how one of the Exec Producers is gay but still, judging by the episodes, if it walks like a duck..

Date: 2007-06-11 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Oh man, you know it's bad when I'm referencing Dark Angel as the better show..

lol. I know! I actually have a soft spot for Dark Angel, but I by no means think that it was a good show, but PKJ makes Dark Angel seem like a work of genius.

And yet, this still managed to make Max look like a bigger badass than Jane.

It's a sad, sad day when a show screws up so incredibly badly that Jessica Alba out butchs Kristanna Loken, and that Max is a more emotionally available and socially graceful person than Jane. I mean, I look at what they've done with Mo and it makes me long for Original Cindy. Not to mention, DA was a sci-fi that at least acknowledged that there a gay people, and didn't shy away from mentioning it or showing it.

It's to the point where I wanna throw the 'homophobic' word out there. Which I don't wanna seeing as how one of the Exec Producers is gay but still, judging by the episodes, if it walks like a duck..

Yeah, I know. It's like I realized the KL probably doesn't want to get labeled or pigeon-holed or whatever, but at this point it's becoming offensive. Really, after watching these episodes and being a co-executive producer you'd think she'd be like "okay, this is getting ridiculous. We won't have them taking bubble-baths together, but a hug or a shoulder clasp isn't unreasonable".

Honestly, its 2007 people!

Date: 2007-06-10 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] max-dembo.livejournal.com
"friendly fire" is easily the best pkj epi so far, and it probably has more to do w/ this epi's director than the script. i too especially loved Stanna's ultra butch edginess and want to see more of it.
I commiserate re: the obnoxious and unnecessary exposition, but this is ad supported television, not HBO.
Lokinator is very tactile in real life, which is appropriate for a character such as Paige Sobel, but not for the supposedly detached, untrusting, motherless Jane Vasco.
i enjoy all of your posts, especially fembucks.

Date: 2007-06-10 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trancer21.livejournal.com
Lokinator is very tactile in real life, which is appropriate for a character such as Paige Sobel, but not for the supposedly detached, untrusting, motherless Jane Vasco.

I think it has less to do with the nature of the actor as the nature of the scripts, male or female, you don't advertise your *lead* as an ass-kicking, take-no-prisoners, follows their own lead character then have them constantly and docilely deferring to someone *else* for direction.

Date: 2007-06-10 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] max-dembo.livejournal.com
I mean no disrespect, but it's safe to assume you've never seen an actual shooting script. That said, Loken the actor is not being directed to touch every body- as unconciously or in the way she touches every body, as often as she does.
Don't get me wrong- i love watching her touch, and her sex scenes in l word are unbearably erotic (imagine what was edited:)). It's still inappropriate (from an acting/character standpoint) for Jane Vasco to be as tactual as Loken (unconciously) plays her.

Date: 2007-06-10 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trancer21.livejournal.com
but it's safe to assume you've never seen an actual shooting script.

Heh, I wouldn't place money on that bet ;) But, I'd be curious to know if you've seen the PK Jane scripts. Because, as you wrote -

It's still inappropriate (from an acting/character standpoint) for Jane Vasco to be as tactual as Loken (unconciously) plays her.

Which makes it weird to see the character be physically affectionate with the male characters and not with the character that's supposed to be her best friend. Whether it's a conscious/unconscious choice by the actor, I don't know, I can only judge based on what I've seen. And what I've seen based on what the story *tells* me seems kinda whacked.

Date: 2007-06-10 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] max-dembo.livejournal.com
i agree that its 'weird', and worse, it comes across as contrived- as if the janemo scenes are being edited so as not to evoke any sexuality.
perhaps its sexual tension that prevents them from touching each other:)

Date: 2007-06-11 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
it comes across as contrived- as if the janemo scenes are being edited so as not to evoke any sexuality.

So true. It's like they don't want any display of emotion between the two in case it comes off gay, but it just makes them seem cold and in some cases even like jerks.

perhaps its sexual tension that prevents them from touching each other:)

This is the only explanation that makes sense to me. They're scared to get close to each other in case they fall deeply in love all over again!

So, way to go producers. They tried to keep the gay away, but they actually made us conduct an elaborate gay love story between the two to explain their interactions!

Date: 2007-06-11 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
i too especially loved Stanna's ultra butch edginess and want to see more of it.

It's teh sex. Butchy McFabulous Stanna (I like, I like) is the best.

I commiserate re: the obnoxious and unnecessary exposition, but this is ad supported television, not HBO.

Yeah, but I'm not expecting ROME here. I'm not even expecting like Buffy or Space Above and Beyond quality, I just want like Dark Angel, or even Birds of Prey quality entertainment here. And it's failing. It's FAILING TO BE AS GOOD AS DARK ANGEL! I didn't think that was possible, lol

Lokinator is very tactile in real life, which is appropriate for a character such as Paige Sobel, but not for the supposedly detached, untrusting, motherless Jane Vasco.

Well, Jane shouldn't be touchy feely, but they can't make her completely detatched either. With these shows with stoic characters there's usually one person that they feel close to so that we can see their softer side and learn what they're feeling, etc. Like Xena was an emotionally stunted badass, but she'd hug Gabrielle. And Sydney Bristow could killinated like anyone anywhere, but she had Francie, and Vaughn and her sister that she could let her guard down with. Max had Original Cindy, etc.

So, I don't think it would be too out of character for Jane to show some tenderness around someone she's known for around a decade (since we know she and Mo went to the academy together). They show just chooses really random moments and people for Jane to be tactile with (Connor, McBride, Riley?) which makes it seem weird, whereas if she was hugging her best friend it would seem more organic.

Date: 2007-06-11 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] max-dembo.livejournal.com
love your posts, fembuck.
keep in mind, The Lokinator is difficult to fit, which is why she had to wear her own clothes (tiedyed shirt, etc. in l word).
i enjoy your posts at kristannaloken.net (which i was banned from). do you post at scifi.com/painkillerjane forum?
btw, Ilene's new show is women in prison. you should write for it:)

Date: 2007-06-11 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
keep in mind, The Lokinator is difficult to fit, which is why she had to wear her own clothes (tiedyed shirt, etc. in l word).

If this means more Butchy McFabulous wardrobe choices than *woot* Luckily for me and my eyeballs Jane doesn't seem like the tie-die pastel shirt type, cause I much as I love Lokinator I didn't love that shirt, lol.

i enjoy your posts at kristannaloken.net (which i was banned from)

It's been kind of dead there lately, and not much real discussion about PKJ, so I've been saving my rants for here and Television Without Pity.

What happened over at kristannaloken.net?

btw, Ilene's new show is women in prison. you should write for it:)

See, I would say that there's like no way you could go wrong with a women in prison show, but I don't have the greatest confidence in Ilene's story-telling abilities. I'll probably watch it though, because with the Chaiken in charge there's bound to be plenty of GoGA. Let's just hope there's no Jenny-ish character (unless it's batshit Jenny from S4).

I haven't heard much about the show, do you know where I could find a write up?

Date: 2007-06-10 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anomalys.livejournal.com
It's a shame that we got more with Faux!Mo & Jane than we usually get with the real thing. But I'll take any Jane/Mo I can get.

So, if even this week's baddies know of the special bond between Jane & Mo... that Mo's the only person Jane really trusts and all... why are we the last to actually see it? I'm getting tired of always just hearing about it and never being shown it.

Unless you count Jane's protective "Mooooooo" scream. Which is becoming an hilarious regularity.

Obviously the writers think we're all thick as paste. Not only with the overkill 'duh!' exposition at the end... but also earlier, after Jane reads the fake report, then talks with Seth. They just have to flash back, otherwise we'd never figure out, from just the previous scene, that *gasp* not!Seth is lying. Oh, PKJ, how do we keep up with you.

Hurry up, model episode, hurry up! (Though with our luck, we'll probably get the one where Jane & Ugly go undercover as a couple first. Ugh.)

Date: 2007-06-11 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
It's a shame that we got more with Faux!Mo & Jane than we usually get with the real thing.

Yeah, I know. It's kind of horrible when the evil doctor is a better friend than the real Mo.

... why are we the last to actually see it? I'm getting tired of always just hearing about it and never being shown it.

Yeah, I know. It's like the makers of this show have never even watched tv before let alone written for it. Show don't tell! That's a major problem with Jane's voice-overs too. Don't have her sardonic dictate info to me, show her emotions through her actions!

after Jane reads the fake report, then talks with Seth. They just have to flash back, otherwise we'd never figure out, from just the previous scene, that *gasp* not!Seth is lying. Oh, PKJ, how do we keep up with you.

Yeah, another painful moment courtesy of PKJ. And the thing is they have these moments in EVERY episode. Like some brain trust is previewing them and going "no, we need a flashback there. It happened 2 minutes ago so they might have forgotten!"

UGH!

Hurry up, model episode, hurry up! (Though with our luck, we'll probably get the one where Jane & Ugly go undercover as a couple first. Ugh.)

*sob* The thing is I can totally see this coming. Most shows wait until like the fourth season when they're starting to run out of ideas to do this, but I could totally see PKJ pulling it by like episode 14.

Date: 2007-06-11 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anomalys.livejournal.com
*sob* The thing is I can totally see this coming. Most shows wait until like the fourth season when they're starting to run out of ideas to do this, but I could totally see PKJ pulling it by like episode 14.

It really is coming. I wish I was just throwing out one of tv's tritest standards... but I read it in a previous Loken interview that I came across earlier today.

"We just did an episode where Connor and Jane go undercover in a type of 'Stepford Wives,' 'Truman Show-esque' community and play the happy couple to apprehend a Neuro who basically is brainwashing a town for what she believes to be the greater good of society."

No good can come of that. There's a tweener-like post somewhere stating that KL and Noah Danby are dating. I didn't take it seriously, but the way the show's going... I'm beginning to wonder. Please look into your KL magic eight ball and reassure me.

Date: 2007-06-11 03:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
"We just did an episode where Connor and Jane go undercover in a type of 'Stepford Wives,' 'Truman Show-esque' community and play the happy couple to apprehend a Neuro who basically is brainwashing a town for what she believes to be the greater good of society."

Oh the horror. The HORROR! I'd actually heard about this episode before, but I had blocked it from my memory because this was before the showed aired and I was desperate to believe that it was going to be good. Oh, the folly of youth! I think that Ch.11 in Canada, actually accidentally played the beginning of that episode at the end of one of the others, just like a minute or two of it, but it scares me cause that means it must be coming up.

There's a tweener-like post somewhere stating that KL and Noah Danby are dating. I didn't take it seriously, but the way the show's going...

I saw exactly one post on imdb stating that, but I haven't seen any mention of it anywhere else. And imdb board posts aren't the most reliable. I mean I could post a message saying Kristanna is dating Lauren Lee Smith, but it doesn't make it true. (In fact until it's proven otherwise I'm going to believe that Kristanna is dating Lauren Lee Smith ... and if it is proven otherwise, I'll just pick another Vancouver!Actress and keep living in denial)

However, with the random hugging of Connor, Jane smiling at the asshat sexiest comments Connor makes like he's a comedic genius, and the premise of this episode I'm beginning to wonder if random poster might be on to something. I mean, I'm happy is she's found love or whatever, but if that's the case keep it off screen! No one wants to see a Jane/Connor romance. No one.

Date: 2007-06-11 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anomalys.livejournal.com
Oops... forgot interview link.

Date: 2007-06-12 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] h-face28.livejournal.com
hahaha I love that you called Seth, Mohinder. I've been thinking the same thing. LOL

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