The Hollows: A Post of Irritation (And More Than A Little Insanity)

[fembuck]

Okay, I'm sorry to do this to you all.  But I'm going freaking insane and I cannot control it for any longer.  I have reached my limit.  My limit, 'tis reached.  WWBC is killing me.  Kim Harrison (who shall henceforth only be referred to as Cock Block - or possibly Cock Block McGee - by me) is killing me.  *grabs hair and tugs and pulls*

I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!  I've been patient.  We all have.  We have all been patient.  Six books is fucking patient.  But I CANNOT TAKE IT ANYMORE.  I'm like having actual physical symptoms due to the intense irritation and hateration (love you, Mary J!) Book 7 is inspiring in me.  

Now, I'm pretty sure that if you've read Book 7, you probably know the scene I got to, promptly threw my hands up in the air and was like all: 



Yes, it is the scene where Rachel goes up to the belfry to get her demon book or whatever and Mr. I'm Fucking Irrelevant and Exist Only to Cock-Block volunteers to help her go look for it, because god forbid Rachel climb some stairs and carry a BOOK on her own. 

You know what happens in this scene, and I knew it was coming.  Really, I did.  We all knew it was coming the moment Mr. I'm Fucking Irrelevant and Exist Only to Cock-Block was invited to dinner, and we really knew it was coming when Robbie and Mr. I'm Fucking Irrelevant and Exist Only to Cock-Block got their bromance on over Alice's cobbler pie or whatever.  But even knowing that it was coming, I was not at all prepared for the reality of it ... or my reaction to it coming to pass.  It was just so much more horrible than ever before this time. 

I mean, Rachel/Crap for Brains ... aiight, whatevs.  I actually liked Nick in the first and second book, and found him constantly being referred to as Crap for Brains in the fourth book hilarious.  I dealt with it.  Rachel/Kisten ... Kisten was an alright dude, Ivy liked him, and he was a not so secret Ravy shipper.  Dude, also kept pressing for a threesome, which, you gotta respect.  If I was him, I'd try to bang Ivy again while dating Rachel too.  In fact I'd just watch them.  So Kisten, I could deal with.  I could probably even deal with Rachel/Mr. I'm Fucking Irrelevant and Exist Only to Cock-Block (if I skipped all of their scenes together, which I have been anyway, so HA!).  But I accidentally spoiled myself for what's gonna happen with Ivy and ...



Seriously, Cock Block.  WHY?  WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME?  I'M A GOOD PERSON!  I PAY MY TAXES!  I LIKE PUPPIES AND KITTENS AND BROWN PAPER PACKAGES ALL TIED WITH STRING!  SO, WHY DO YOU HATE ME?!?!?!?!

*hyperventilates*  *breathes into a paper bag*  

I cannot pick up this book without my stomach clenching and a wave of exhaustion washing over me.  I just want to hide under a blanket and sleep until Cock Block makes the pain go away.  I literally have not been able to open the book in days!

Me: What the fuck is it with you?  What don't you fucking understand? You got any fucking idea about, hey, it's fucking distracting having Ivy hooking up with a dude when she's head over heels in love with Rachel!  What don't you get about it?

Cock Block: Some nutball said he wanted Ivy to hook up with a guy.

Me: Ohhhhh, goooood for you. And how was it? I hope it was fucking good for nutball, because everyone else is pissed off, aren't they?  You are trashing my femslash!

Cock Block: Janine, I was only...

Me: You've done it one too many fucking times, and I ain't picking up another book unless there's Ravy. I'm fucking serious. You're a nice chick. You're a nice chick, but that don't fucking cut it when you've been fucking cock-blocking Ravy action for seven fucking books.  Seriously, you and I, we are fucking done professionally.

Seriously, it's like:


SHIT'S ABOUT TO GO DOWN, BITCHES!

And ... I feel better now.

Once, again, I apologize for this bout of insanity, but I needed to get that off of my chest.

Comments

[onlyjustwhisper.livejournal.com]

Wow. I seriously don't blame you for going insane! I totally would have too. (I haven't read the books - are they any good? You know, up until this bit?)

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Yes, the series was good until this point (and honestly, the writing is not bad at this point, I just can't take it anymore).

It's a well-written series, with well developed characters and an interesting universe. And I fucking love the character of Ivy. Really, I've been quite obsessed with the series, and recommending it to everyone for like two months.

The will they/won't they relationship in the series has just become the end of me though. I can't take the constant cock-blockage anymore.

That being said, I would still recommend the series, I would just warn you that eventually you too may implode ... like I have today ;)

[ex-stanleyt.livejournal.com]

Yike! I don't know if I even dare make a smartass comment here! *ducks and runs*

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

You can always make a smartass comment here. This is where smartass comments live! I didn't mean to be scary. That rant was just building for a while, and it came off a little more 'I paint clowns and like fire' than I intended ;)

Please, smartass comment away :D

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

and i was wondering when the first rants would be posted. exactly my thoughts after finishing the book last week.

Oh, thank god I'm not alone! I was beginning to feel like a delicate little flower who can't deal with bright colours and loud noises. Most of the reviews I've read were pretty positive, so I went into the book and read the first 5 chapters with a rather optimistic feeling. Which quickly died. I don't need instant gratification, but I'd like SOME gratification, and I don't think there's any gratification to be had at the end of this journey.

If one of the brave souls that continues to read the series tells me that Rachel and Ivy get together after the ninth book (or however long the series is going to end up being, I can't keep up with Cock Block's book shenanigans), then I will go back and read the rest of the series. But I'm not putting myself through this for constant disappointment anymore.

*whimpers at the idea of actually having to finish Book 7, because I paid cash money for it dammit!*

[trancer21.livejournal.com]

Ha! That HSM gif just never.gets.old!

Man, this is making me regret plunking down 20 bucks for the book and not sticking with my .pdf copy. *sigh* I guess I could always get a refund.

Everyone's been so 'tight-lipped' about book 7 and I was afraid I was going to have to trawl through the amazon.com forums for some spoilers.

But yeah, it's like I said in my reply to you, I'm tired of being marginalized and it's time for me to spend my 'pink dollars' on something a little more fulfilling. Or, you know, save my money and write Rachel/Ivy porn!

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Man, this is making me regret plunking down 20 bucks for the book and not sticking with my .pdf copy.

Dude, I feel the same way. Having spent cash money on it is the only thing that's making me want to finish it, but like in a spiteful way.

Everyone's been so 'tight-lipped' about book 7 and I was afraid I was going to have to trawl through the amazon.com forums for some spoilers.

I'd heard vague positives about Book 7 after it came out, and I read the first five chapters in advance, and enjoyed them for the most part. But the spoiler I mentioned in my other comment to you was just too much for me to handle.

I'm tired of being marginalized and it's time for me to spend my 'pink dollars' on something a little more fulfilling.

This.

You should totally read, "The World Unseen" if you haven't yet. I read that book in one sitting. So good. No pandering to an audience that you don't intend to satisfy. Just really riveting and poetic and beautiful. There's stuff in there that wasn't in the movie, or is expanded upon, so it's new enough that you won't be bored if you saw the film (plus there's the added bonus of being able to picture Lisa Ray while you read ;)

Or, you know, save my money and write Rachel/Ivy porn!

This. Although I'm so mad I can't even write Ravy right now. I'm sure that will change once I calm down though. Reading Ravy porn, is my hot hot sex right now though, so I effusively encourage you to keep it coming :D

[http://users.livejournal.com/_slutknot_/]

LOL @ the Aretha hat.

I don't know what I'm gonna do when the next one comes out-
I normally wait for _bitch_cakes_ to buy them.

:(

This series is still over 9000 times better than Anita Blake, even with all the cockblocking.

[leavethesky.livejournal.com]

Thank you for this. I was close, very close to starting this series, but there's no way I could stand 7 books of this shit. There's being a tease and then there's fucking with your hot dyke, very loyal fanbase. 7 books of tease puts you firmly in the latter category. I'd rather read your (and trancer's!) femslash anyway.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Thank you for this. I was close, very close to starting this series, but there's no way I could stand 7 books of this shit.

I'm glad I could save you from the bitchfit you would most definitely throw after 7 books (and more coming) of this shit.

There's being a tease and then there's fucking with your hot dyke, very loyal fanbase. 7 books of tease puts you firmly in the latter category.

This. It's just obvious pandering now. She knows there's a lesbian fan base, and so she throws bones, but she has no intention of ever getting them together. There are far more people clamoring for Rachel to end with anyone with dick than Ivy, and K.H. is not attached enough (if at all) to the idea of Rachel/Ivy that she would never fight for it, or risk sales for it.

I'd rather read your (and trancer's!) femslash anyway.

Thanks :D Although I have to say, Her Grace, the Lady Kim of Cock Block has cock-blocked my ability to write Ravy right now. I cannot start to think of Ravy without getting bitter and wanting Ivy to leave Rachel and move far far away to a place where she can find a good woman who loves her and appreciates her.

I'm hoping Trancer will keep the porn coming though, cause it does make me feel better :D

[runetraverse.livejournal.com]

So if someone offered you, say, another urban fantasy with similar relationships, but no cock-block, what would happen? xD

And I dunno if you read the earlier comment I made, but I flat-out asked her if Rachel and Ivy would possibly end up together when she came to Powells. (should'a seen the weird looks I got for it, too. Kim looked a little surprised, but like eight different people in the rows in front of me actually turned around to stare.) The little tidbits she let slip are:

- She never meant for there to be an erotic relationship between Ivy and Rachel originally. "When Ivy crawled over the table (in DWW), [I] nearly had a heart attack!" was the quote. Then she repeated something she's said before, about how she outlines plots, but can't predict the relationships between her characters to save her life, so anything's possible. On the other hand, she has said that she isn't oblivious to the chemistry now, and that (based on her personality) Ivy will most likely end up with a woman, even if it's not necessarily Rachel. (had to go back and find that answer to make sure I had it right.)

- Kisten (the closest thing to a real rival Ivy-wise) was actually supposed to be a bit player, but he ended up growing into the perfect guy for Rachel . . . which is why she had to kill him. The way she explained it, the series will end with Rachel getting "her happy ending." Since Kisten had become a match for her, but she still had stories to tell plot-wise, she had three choices: send him away (to "Vamp Camp"), make him evil, or kill him off. Since she felt like just sending him away would make for more angst / whining / stupidity, and making him evil would be a disservice to the character, she had to have him die.

There was more, but those were the two that stuck with me. So I figured I'd share. xD

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

So if someone offered you, say, another urban fantasy with similar relationships, but no cock-block, what would happen? xD

[Liz Lemon] I want to go to there [/Liz Lemon]. Please tell me about this. I want this. Me no wanty the cock-blocky anymore!

She never meant for there to be an erotic relationship between Ivy and Rachel originally.

I heard about this before, and it just makes me even more despondent. If she had planned on the sexual tension from the beginning, if it was something she intended and had thought about before the series, I would have 100% more faith in the idea of Rachel and Ivy ending up together. But because it just sort of popped up, I don't think that she's at all committed to the idea. She couldn't write it if she HATED the idea, but I think she'd rather write about Rachel getting down with pretty boys.

Since Kisten had become a match for her, but she still had stories to tell plot-wise, she had three choices: send him away (to "Vamp Camp"), make him evil, or kill him off.

Well Ivy's been the perfect match for Rachel for seven books so ...

Actually, right now I've of the mind where I wish Kim would write Ivy off on some mission or whatever. That way I could skip reading all of the books that were based on Rachel alone. This could eat up a good four books that she left to write in the series. Then Ivy could come back, and she and Rachel could spent the next three books discussing their issues like adults, and working on a relationship together, and in the finally book they could reach a comfortable stage in their relationship together where they are happy, and are health influences on each other, who emotionally support each other and THE END

There was more, but those were the two that stuck with me. So I figured I'd share

Thanks for sharing the info (if my tone is at all ranty know that my annoyance is directed at Kim, and my gratitude for sharing is directed at you). I hadn't heard the stuff about Kisten before, so it was interesting to see what the reasoning for killing him off was.

[ralst.livejournal.com]

I only made it part way through book three before the 'GET THEM TOGETHER, ALREADY!' vibe forced me to put the book aside. At first I loved that there was all that simmering lust but I've been spoiled by fanfic and all the 'lets throw an unsuitable and only vaguely interesting man at her' became very irritating, very fast.

My copy of the 'The World Unseen' book has just arrived, so I think I'll take refuge in that for a while.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I only made it part way through book three before the 'GET THEM TOGETHER, ALREADY!' vibe forced me to put the book aside.

Book Three was the pits. I nearly stopped reading the series there too, but I posted another one of these rants and people told me it got better so I continued on. And it did get better for a while. But I have no more hope. I know Cock Block is just gonna continue to Cock Block and then I'll end up bitter and out of quite a bit of cash. No Thanks. I'm Done. You are a wise woman to have avoided this pitfall. Stick with the fanfic and never pick up another one of these books. That way madness lies ...

My copy of the 'The World Unseen' book has just arrived, so I think I'll take refuge in that for a while.

It is SO GOOD! You will not want to put it down. In fact, reading that made me realize how annoyed I was with The Hollows. Reading it I was excited and captivated, and when I finished it hours after starting I was on an emotional high. Then I thought about reading Book 7 and got all depressed, and I was like, "Hmm, it's probably not a good thing that the thought of this book makes me feel like I'm going to vomit".

[gochateau.livejournal.com]

I don't even know what to say... I didn't find out about that Ivy spoiler until now and, predictably, I feel like throwing my own bitch fit too. I was fine after finishing book 7... I cringed and skipped all the Rachel/Marshall scenes, and was glad that there was a hell of a lot more Ivy-mention in this book, especially after ODW, but damn.

Looking back on all the Ravy subtext AFTER reading that spoiler? Just makes everything worse. Seven books (and counting, apparently. *swears up a storm*) worth of cock block? Fuck. That.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I didn't find out about that Ivy spoiler until now and, predictably, I feel like throwing my own bitch fit too. I was fine after finishing book 7...

Does the Ivy/Glenn thing not happen in Book 7? I thought it did which was part of my increasing reason not to want to read Book 7.

I cringed and skipped all the Rachel/Marshall scenes

That's how I got through them in book 6, and it's how I'm getting through them now.

and was glad that there was a hell of a lot more Ivy-mention in this book, especially after ODW, but damn.

I was digging the more Ivy, especially Ivy with the kids and being liked and respected at the hospital and stuff. But then that scene with Rynn Cormal over sushi happened, and it depressed the hell out of me. That was Rachel and Ivy standing united together, but it just made me think that their relationship is unhealthy and dysfunctional and that they should get as far away from each other as possible. Now when I think of them, I just want to tell Ivy to run far, far, away.

Looking back on all the Ravy subtext AFTER reading that spoiler? Just makes everything worse

I know! Their relationship is becoming more and more depressing. Cock Block is starting to make me really dislike the both of them, and THAT'S why I want to stop reading. Because I used to like Rachel a lot, and LOVE Ivy, and LOVE the idea of them together, and I want to KEEP THAT. I want to jump the canon!ship before it takes my love of the fanfic as well. I want to keep writing Ravy, and I need to like them and belief in them to do that ... which further reading of canon will surely take away.

Fuck. That.

This. Fuck it with something hard and sand-papery!

[ic1pher.livejournal.com]

Crap... Can't say that I didn't see this coming but losing you and your awesome fic writing skills from this fandom is going to hurt like hell. :(

I don't know how I can bear to drudge on without fan fiction. But when you're right you're right. It's just... I can't let go of this fandom.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Can't say that I didn't see this coming but losing you and your awesome fic writing skills from this fandom is going to hurt like hell. :(

I'm hoping to still keep writing Ravy for a while. That's why I want to stop reading the series right now, while I still have some love like of it left. Because I used to like Rachel a lot, and LOVE Ivy, and LOVE the idea of them together, and I want to KEEP THAT. I want to jump the canon!ship before it takes my love of the fanfic as well. I want to keep writing Ravy. Hopefully, when this bout of depression goes away I'll see the silver lining again and be able to write something that doesn't involve Ivy moving away from Cincy to Bon Temps, Lousianna where she finds love with vampire!Pam.

It's just... I can't let go of this fandom.

I understand this. I've felt this before. This was me in Season 6 and 7 of Buffy, holding on even though it hurt so bad.

[angharad_gov.livejournal.com]

good to know. after i read outlaw demon wails, i'll know to stop there.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Dude, don't even read that one.

That one is where the insanity began. ODW has maybe the biggest Ravy cock-blockage ever. It's my residual hate of ODW that made me explode with hatred over the half of WWBC I've read.

Just imagine that Kisten's death frees Ivy and Rachel up to love each other and leave it at that.

Just ... just leave it at that. I just want to spare you this pain that I'm in now. You'll be curious what happens, but fight the feeling. Not knowing is better. Just pretend the series ended with book 5. Kind of like how I pretend Buffy ended after season 4. You'll be happier that way.

[lostingeekdom.livejournal.com]

Did you finish reading the book? I felt that the Ravy scenes got a bit better by the end of it. Though now, reading that Cock block never meant to write Ravy from the beginning is putting me off again.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Did you finish reading the book?

No. I put the book down in disgust after Rachel and Marshall did it, and I haven't picked it up since. I've opened it, but not been able to make myself start reading. It's like a chore. It's broccoli. The book is broccoli to my right. It's worse actually, because at least broccoli is good for me.

I felt that the Ravy scenes got a bit better by the end of it.

I'll finish the book. Probably in the next week or so, but I'm sure I'll finish it.

I just really don't have any faith right now in getting the ending that I desire, and it's hard for me to want to continue battling through the tough parts for those little moments of sunshine that inevitably cloud over again. If I believed Cock Block would give me Ravy in the end, I would follow her til the ends of the earth. However, all I believe in her ability to do is cock-block right now.

Cock block never meant to write Ravy from the beginning is putting me off again.

She's not committed to them like that. She likes teasing, but it wasn't what she envisioned when she envisioned Rachel, and it's not going to be Rachel's end game. It actually wouldn't surprise if Cock Block DID have them sleep together and try the relationship route, only to realize they are better off as friends (possibly platonic soulmates) and Ivy will get her anonymous female for a happy ending, and Rachel will end up with some guy (probably Trent) and I will bang my head against my desk until I can force myself to forget it ALL.

[wishing-wounds.livejournal.com]

It gets better by the end. I promise.

[wishing-wounds.livejournal.com]

And by that I mean,

[spoiler]Marshal totally ditches her, presumably never to be seen again[/spoiler]

[jaina47.livejournal.com]

I had issues with this book too. Not really with the Ivy/Glenn of it all, because I totally didn't even see it the first time I read the book. It didn't even occur to me until I heard the spoiler chat and went back and re-read.

My problem is that at this point, after telling her fans repeatedly that Rachel and Ivy aren't having it feels like KH is teasing her lesbian/bi fans along as bad as Rachel teases Ivy. Which is pretty damn bad. So, yeah, I was not of the happy.

Though, damn it, I think part of what's making me so upset about it is that there are parts of this book that I would have adored had it not been for the way that she screwed it up with all the Rachel/Ivy won't happen and the Rachel/Glenn. No.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Not really with the Ivy/Glenn of it all, because I totally didn't even see it the first time I read the book. It didn't even occur to me until I heard the spoiler chat and went back and re-read.

BWAH! That makes me feel a little better actually. I'll notice because my brain will be looking for it now, but it probably won't be as painful as I feared.

it feels like KH is teasing her lesbian/bi fans along as bad as Rachel teases Ivy. Which is pretty damn bad.

This is my feeling and my fear as well. Cock Block is just too good at cock-blocking. I can't help but think there's a lot of Cock Block in Rachel, including but not limited to the horndog-ness. Ravy surprised Cock Block, and I think she's trying to wrap her mind around it like Rachel is. Cock Block is is all like "Men are pretty and I want to touch" but ... but Rachel really seems to want to do Ivy, but I do not know how to reconcile Men-are-pretty-and-I-want-to-touch and I-Love-Ivy-and-I-want-to-touch. O deer!

I think part of what's making me so upset about it is that there are parts of this book that I would have adored had it not been for the way that she screwed it up with all the Rachel/Ivy won't happen and the Rachel/Glenn. No.

This. I'm really into the plot of this book. It's the relationship stuff that is bogging me down. This is why I don't watch nighttime soaps. Constant relationship woe BOTHERS me. I don't mind angst, but angst can be taken to a place where it becomes ridiculous and Cock Block as been dragging ridiculous through the mud for about 2 books now.

[crys-22.livejournal.com]

I just finished reading and man was it a pain to get through. I'm thinking there is at least one good Ravy moment towards the end, but it's not much. Just the usual crumbs we've been getting. The Skimmer scene pissed me off, because I like the girl and she got screwed. And don't get me started on that damn ghost.

I've ordered The World Unseen already and was wondering if you read I Can't Think Straight yet and if it was worth getting too? I'm in need of some uplifting.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Just the usual crumbs we've been getting.

I can't deal with crumbs anymore. Cock Block is just being an asshole now, NOT a tease.

The Skimmer scene pissed me off, because I like the girl and she got screwed.

I like Skimmer too. I've never understood why I'm supposed to dislike her. As a potential partner for Ivy she has always come across as a better match than Rachel on paper ... and oh, yeah, she WANTS Ivy back. She admits she loves her. She sacrifices to be with Ivy. And Skimmer's the asshole how, Cock Block?

And don't get me started on that damn ghost.

Ugh. I already hate the ghost and his fucking horrible cheesy pseudo-Victorian Mr. Darcy speech. STFU, Pierce! I hate to say it (actually, I don't! I'm pissed enough that I don't hate to say it, I LOVE to say it!) Pierce made me think of this:



I mean honestly, a ghost we've never heard of, whose been living in the church for years, who Rachel fell for over the course of one night when she was 18, who happens to be buried in the backyard of the church she now happens to live in, who's a bad boy with heart of gold (maybe), who's just misunderstood like her (maybe). WHAT. EVER.

I've ordered The World Unseen already and was wondering if you read I Can't Think Straight yet and if it was worth getting too? I'm in need of some uplifting.

I haven't read it yet. I need to order it. I loved the novel of The World Unseen, so I'm really looking forward to I Can't Think Straight. Shamim Sarif is a very good writer, so I think you'd be safe ordering it. The novel fleshed TWU out for me so much, and made me love the characters even more, and I'm hoping the novel will do the same of ICTS (cause I want to write Tala/Leyla, but they are a little difficult for me to grasp right now. Especially Tala, who's my favorite).

[lost-dreamer23.livejournal.com]

FMYLIFE.

I mean, I knew this was going to happen because I'd seen some spoilers and stuff prior to getting the book (Which I've yet to read, but still know a hell of a lot about) but...UGH! I was kind of in denial of it all emotionally until this D:

Not to say that you ruined my day, love. No, I'm still going to plow through it. I mean come ON. There HAS to be Ravy in the end. Doesn't there...? Nobody would write a book about such an intense almost-relationship between two girls and not have it happen. I mean...like...really. There aren't enough GOOD lesbian books out there, and I'd bet my life if I had one to say that Kim is writing this for us femmeslashers to have something that we don't have to totally ruin the plot of a book to get our hawt lesbo!sex.
...Either that, or KH is just so damn stupid that she didn't realise what she was setting herself up for until it was too late. I mean, it sort of fits with the whole Rachel personality, yeah? (But...aren't the readers not supposed to know more about the book than the author?)

I'm rambling now.
Love you.
Love your rants.
Sorry for your irritation.
I'm done.

...no, really.
I'm done.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

FMYLIFE.

FOurLife's. Cause I'm right there in FMYLIFE territory with you!

I was kind of in denial of it all emotionally until this D:

Me too. Which is why I think it hit me so hard. I was trying so hard to be positive, and when I couldn't pretend any longer all the disappointment just slammed into me like a ton of bricks.

that Kim is writing this for us femmeslashers to have something that we don't have to totally ruin the plot of a book to get our hawt lesbo!sex.

I'd love it if that were the cause. But I think that Cock Block is probably just a cool, liberal straight chick who accidentally created a slashly relationship, but I think that like Rachel, Cock Block is too more interested in the cock, then in the perfect girl.

Nobody would write a book about such an intense almost-relationship between two girls and not have it happen. I mean...like...really.

I hope this is the cause though.

I'm just being a huge Debbie Downer today.

I'm rambling now.
Love you.
Love your rants.
Sorry for your irritation.
I'm done.

Thanks, bb. That makes me feel a bit better. I'm glad at least that I can be entertaining in my my bitchy moody glory, lol.

[hypno-ninja.livejournal.com]

Are you sure they had sex? Because as I remember it they did some sort of weird magic pseudo-sex type thing.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Are you sure they had sex?

Rachel and Marshall? If that's who you're talking about then, no I'm not sure if they had sex. It just seemed to me like they were so I skipped a whole bunch of pages until I didn't see his name anymore. So it's entirely possible that my huge rant of predicated on something that never happened, and galvanized by a relationship that most people didn't even notice. If so ... HA!

[madndizzee.livejournal.com]

O.O *cringe and rubs your shoulder* there, there. you're totally making me not want to read book 7. last i checked it wasn't out in my bookstore yet so i'm glad i haven't shelled out any money for it. maybe i'll wait for the library... or for book 8 spoilers to come out.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

you're totally making me not want to read book 7.

I'm probably going to finish it. But I really can't summon the ability to try and convince you to go through what I'm going through now. Maybe if I actually like the end of the book, I'll feel differently. But I'm very depressed by future prospects right now.

for book 8 spoilers to come out.

They won't make you feel better (I don't think). I know at least that the spoilers for Book 9 are extremely depressing/worrying.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Finally! I am not alone... Don't get me wrong, I love Kim Harrison. Her plots and character development are fantastic but the whole Ravy will they/won't they thing has GOT.TO.STOP. >_< I've been hanging by a thread for seven books straight.

This. THIS! I LOVE Ivy as a character, and I think that Rachel is a very fully realized character (though she often bothers me, sometimes a lot). And at times their relationship is heart-breakingly beautiful. If they get together in the end, I would consider it one of the greatest romances I've read. If they get together in the end. If they don't, this series will have been a huge waste of my time, and I will not be able to look back on it with any fondness, only intense loathing.

It breaks my heart that I'm starting to think Ivy just needs to find a girl who ISN'T IN DENIAL, and will treat Ivy like the wonderfully sexy vampire she is! ;-)

I've been thinking this a lot lately too. I just want Ivy to get the hell away from Rachel and be happy. Rachel will ALWAYS sabotage her happiness, but I think that Ivy could allow herself to be happy if she was with someone that loved her and trusted her and wanted her for who she was.

This is why it's impossible for me to write Ravy write now. I don't want them together right now. I dislike everything right now. Though, I do suspect that once I calm down, I'll get all swoony over them again.

I like Glenn. I like Ivy. But not together, especially when Ivy is still clearly head over heels for Rachel. *Sigh*

Word. The relationship is ridiculous. I could see Ivy hitting on Glenn to try and make Rachel jealous, but I'd think Glenn would have a bit more self-respect than to fall for that, and Rachel apparently doesn't even really notice they're dating, which means Ivy is flaunting it enough to be trying to make her jealous. So, in other words, ridiciulous.

So you're not the only one who blew a fuse.

Thank you. I was really beginning to feel like a crazy, so I'm happy my reaction wasn't completely over the top. It's not that this book is bad, it's just that my annoyance at the cock-blocking has been growing with every book to the point where ANY cock-blocking is TOO much for me.

I just hope you continue to write Ravy fanfics.

I hope so too. I think I will. I just need to calm down a little first.

[yukivampyra.livejournal.com]

I haven't read WWBC yet, and now I'm scared to.

And I'm so discouraged about the rest of the books now. I might stop reading them and just rely on gossip for the next however many. There's no way I'm buying it now. :|

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I haven't read WWBC yet, and now I'm scared to.

And I'm scared to finish. *sigh* Honestly, the book is not bad. If this was like the third book in the series, instead of the seventh I would probably love it. My over the top reaction is because my annoyance at the cock-blocking has been growing with every book, and it's finally reached the point where ANY cock-blocking is TOO much for me. Anything short of Ravy is just not gonna cut it with me anymore. The books not bad, I'm just fed up.

I might stop reading them and just rely on gossip for the next however many.

I think I'm going to do that too. Although, I might be desperate for more Hollows by the time book 8 comes out.

[(Anonymous)]

Rage On!! I’m glad I’m not the only one that’s pissed off over this series. There were a couple of scenes in the book that gave me some hope for Ravy, but then I read some of the comments she posted to fans about Rachel not being Ivy’s soul mate and how she wasn’t scared to kill Ivy off. I hope you don’t mind me posting. I’m not a Live Journal member but I love reading your fanfic.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

There were a couple of scenes in the book that gave me some hope for Ravy, but then I read some of the comments she posted to fans about Rachel not being Ivy’s soul mate and how she wasn’t scared to kill Ivy off.

That's the thing about Cock Block that I can't take anymore. She gives and then she takes away. And that's fine and dandy for a while. It teases and builds excitement for a while. But if it goes on for too long (which it HAS) then it just becomes painful, and it's like "put out, or get out!" And I feel like to maintain my sanity, I might have to get out.

I hope you don’t mind me posting. I’m not a Live Journal member but I love reading your fanfic.

I don't mind at all! It's great to hear from you :D Stop by any time!

[thepixiestix.livejournal.com]

erm, so would it be passive-aggressive to write our own Ravy porn and flood all Hollows yahoo groups with it, or is that just plain aggressive? Maybe tie it up in a nice bundle for certain persons and say THIS is where you have to go because ITS THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES SENSE ANYMORE. Or am I the only one who noticed when its just about the Ravy "innocent bystanders" don't get dead? (though that could just be my over-active imagination) Anyway...
Thank you Janine for so eloquently voicing what I would have bumbled through.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

so would it be passive-aggressive to write our own Ravy porn and flood all Hollows yahoo groups with it, or is that just plain aggressive? Maybe tie it up in a nice bundle for certain persons and say THIS is where you have to go because ITS THE ONLY THING THAT MAKES SENSE ANYMORE.

Eh. I doubt it would make a difference to Cock-Block. Author's will do, what author's will do. If she's got strong ideas about what the characters are going to do in her head, nothing is going to change her mind. On a much smaller scale, I had some ideas about character relationships in The Edge which pissed a lot of people off, but that was the only way I could write it.

I'm all for everyone writing as much Ravy porn as possible though, cause it does convert some, and it makes helps keep Ravy shippers sane!

Thank you Janine for so eloquently voicing what I would have bumbled through.

Eloquently, well ... *fluffs collar* lol. Thank you. I'm glad there was something worth while in that epic meltdown above. I totally just lost my shit, lol. You gotta give credit to Cock Block for making us care so much. I just wish she would reward the loyalty.

[runetraverse.livejournal.com]

Duuuuude! I just had a thought! We should do a petition or something - like a "Give Us Ravy!" thing online somewhere. Though we'd have to figure out how to get her attention without being too annoying, since we wouldn't want her to mess with 'em out of spite. (Not that I think she's mean enough to do that by a long shot, but it might still be a pain.)

Too bad she already said what she did about fanfic, or we could send her that. xD It'd be pretty awesome.

(Edited as I'm looking over the post: Like Pixie just said! *waves* And I love your Kirika icon! Very cool.)

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I just had a thought! We should do a petition or something - like a "Give Us Ravy!" thing online somewhere.

I'm all "Down With Cock Block" right now, so I'm going to be all Debbie Downer and say, it probably wouldn't make a difference. She knows about the Ravy fans, but ultimately Cock Block is going to do what Cock Block wants to do. She's either secretly a Ravy shipper and plans to get them together but won't say it to maintain suspense, or despite the tension she acknowledges she doesn't think they should end up together and they won't. She will write what she feels, that's all she can do.

I'll just have to jump ship if what she feels continue to fuck with my emotions so much. There are enough het!Rachel, Trench and other Rachel/M pairing fans out there to keep Cock Block's bank account full.

Too bad she already said what she did about fanfic

What did she say about fanfic?

[stickyricee.livejournal.com]

That's too bad. I actually got into the Hollows series because of your fanfic. I guess I'm not as affected by KH's cockblockage since I haven't actually FINISHED reading any of the books...I simply skip to all the Ravy parts (I know, I cheated). Regardless, I hope you'll continue w/ the Ravy because I love your fanfic! :)

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

I guess I'm not as affected by KH's cockblockage since I haven't actually FINISHED reading any of the books...I simply skip to all the Ravy parts (I know, I cheated).

The cock-blocking didn't affect me for a while. I was all "Trust in Kim" and it was fun to see the teasing and possibility between them. And honestly, they needed to grow a little as people for a relationship to really work. But there's just been too much cock-blocking now, and I'm over this shit. Cock Block needs to put out or get out!

I hope you'll continue w/ the Ravy because I love your fanfic! :)

I hope I will too! I think I just need to calm down a little first. And eventually I'll stick my fingers in my ears, go lalalalala and ignore all of the fuckery Cock Block throws into the books along with the plot and Ravy.

[prim8.livejournal.com]

I think it's time for you to write an epic Ravy.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

At this point in time I've literally been cock-blocked into not being able to write ANY Ravy. Though, when I finish this book (which I will) I'll probably feel differently. Also, I think I'm a bit stressed out in RL right now, which isn't helping.

I'd love to write epic Ravy, though. Hopefully, inspiration will hit.