Lost Girl - 2x10 - Raging Fae

[fembuck]

Lost Girl's streak of not sucking continues!

They remembered Bo's past and addressed it!  There is an epic (both in content and cuteness) Bo/Lauren scene!  Lauren wasn't joking last episode about things just tumbling out of her mouth! 

The Bo/Dyson angle of this triangle still bugs the hell out of me, but at least it really is feeling like a triangle (quadrangle?) now.  Plus, Lauren is still the one that Bo opens up to and reveals her feelings to, whereas Bo and Dyson continue to be Twi-tense about each other but do not actually talk to each other or seem to have personalities when in each others presence.

Bo's still dumb as a rock. But, I continue to be able to take it and, can almost respect, her righteous simplicity this season.  It's so nice to be able to cheer for the heroine again.

The Ash stuff and the Nain Rouge stuff continues to interest me, but I most definitely need this Nadia cock-blockage to be addressed soon. 

Like, it doesn't have to happen next episode, but I can't take like seven more episode of Lauren's Nadia angst and Nadia's comatose state keeping Bo and Lauren in this holding pattern, where stealth kisses and verbal slips aside, nothing really happens.  I know that once Nadia wakes up the cock-blockage and angst will continue, but at least with all of the players awake and moving around things can start to move forward - or sideways, or backward, or whatever, but at least things will be moving).

Comments

[unxpectedlove.livejournal.com]

Anna Silk did a fine job in this episode....her emoting was much much better then before. Dyson...meh. Yeah I did get a more triangle feel as opposed to season one where it was just a one sided triangle....but serious, where is all my Doccubus honeymoon sex? Or angst sex? Or any sex for that matter?

Zoie Palmer...so pretty

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Anna Silk did a fine job in this episode....her emoting was much much better then before.

Yeah, I think Anna and the writers have finally become comfortable with the character and it's made all the difference in the world.

I also think Anna's just better with the darker/angstier stuff (like real angst, not Dyson angst). I mean I loved her in Vexed with Bo was all damaged. The emotional scenes she gets with Zoie always bring out really good work from her.

Dyson...meh.

He's just such a boring character. He's too reserved to point of acting like a hairy card-board box. I can't even...

but serious, where is all my Doccubus honeymoon sex? Or angst sex? Or any sex for that matter?


I know *le sigh* I wish they could have had an episode or two of Bo and Lauren solving crimes together and getting to be happy. Not only would it have been nice to see, but it would have made the Nadia reveal hit home even harder.

[telepresence.livejournal.com]

Really happy that they addressed Bo's past killings.

Really happy they reminded the viewers that true lurve with Dyson or Lauren or not, Bo still has to have Sexymeals with randoms to live.

Really like the continuing Hale/Kenzi stuff.

I wish Bo would make out with Lauren's face a bit more often, but I also like it when they talk about real things.

And the new Ash is getting interesting, which I never expected.

All in all a good episode.

Bo's nature

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It begs a bit of a question that Bo, who hates her inner Succubus so much spent ten years on a killing spree. We know she tried to resist and her nature overpowered her and she tended to pick on people like the slime that nearly made away with Kenzi but still that's a big pile of bodies. As soon as she found out she was Fae, she did try and address the problem with Lauren's help and to a large degree can control it. I don't suppose Lauren's going to tell her about her 'ruler of the world' aspirations just yet, give it a few weeks... Bo telling her first loves family what happened ... please Bo, way to make the rest of the family disappear, have you not been paying attention to what happens to those who threaten the Fae with exposure.

Anna Silk was very good this week as emotional Bo, I can stand Bo being emotional when it's not directed at Dyson mainly because Dyson for some reason doesn't do it for me in his role as a feelings lover. He's somehow sexier when he's teasing or warmly protective with Bo and Kenzi. I don't see anything at all with Ciara.

Lauren's really all over the place isn't she? I don't what they intend to do to resolve the Nadia thing but I suspect our dear doctor is not going to be skipping off into the sunset with her reclaimed lover not without many a backward glance anyway. Their talk for some reason reminded me of one of those convoluted X files moments where the conversation is oddly inappropriate but the feelings are zooming everywhere. By inappropiate I mean like the kisses in the Pod room, Lauren's declaration rather than helping Bo with her situation becomes then a problem in itself. Lauren tells Bo she absolutely loves her then goes waffling on until it's all about her. I've seen comments on the net about how Bo didn't respond,it would be difficult to respond to all those contradictions and yet,I, as a viewer, can't help coming away with the conclusion that Lauren is hopelessly conflicted by her two loves. She's never been very happy about Dyson's claim on Bo so I think Bo is being very reasonable in the circumstances. Anna Silk's acting choice there was spot on, she remains a ball of hurt vulnerability allowing Lauren to play doctor verbally acknowledging that Lauren's all mixed up about Nadia.

Lochlan's turned out to be something very nasty hasn't he? Hmmm, I thought the fight guy looked a bit hefty for dinner but ewwww. LGfan

Re: Bo's nature

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

We know she tried to resist and her nature overpowered her and she tended to pick on people like the slime that nearly made away with Kenzi but still that's a big pile of bodies.

This. I really feel like it needs to be addressed and not with the accidental!Kyle story. I would like to have it CONFIRMED that Bo was basically a supernatural Dexter, picking off human scum to live (instead of just hoping that she was).

And I'd love for some Fae to call her on her past as well, and to really hear Bo defend herself. I don't need some deep, philosophical response, but it would be nice to have her on the record be like:

"Yes, I chose to live. I tried to minimize the damage I did, but ultimately I decided to kill to stay live and if I was still living the way I was before and someone came after me for it, I probably would have deserved to have been put down. But I know now that Fae doesn't NEED to kill to live. Now that I can control my powers, I won't ever be the way I was before again. I'm helping people now, not hurting of them. That doesn't erase what I've done, but it's a reason for me to keep on going."

Or something.

Bo telling her first loves family what happened ... please Bo, way to make the rest of the family disappear, have you not been paying attention to what happens to those who threaten the Fae with exposure.

I know, right! Trick was totally right to handle that situation behind Bo's back. It's a SECRET SOCIETY BO! You can't expose everyone to make yourself feel better. Giving that woman nightmares about human-looking monsters that eat people wasn't going to improve the quality of her life. Bo's desire to tell her the truth was SELFISH and idiotic (and it's Bo acting like that which really makes me want to hear her say that she only killed bad guys because sometimes I wonder about her).

I can stand Bo being emotional when it's not directed at Dyson mainly because Dyson for some reason doesn't do it for me in his role as a feelings lover.

This. I like Bo in emotional scenes with Lauren, or Kenzi, or Trick. Dyson as a character is just so cardboard and when added to the manufactured angst of him and Bo it just leaves me so cold.

Bo and Dyson are just so horrible for each other, and I feel like the pathetic 'romance' between them will always hold Dyson down as a character, because he has so much more chemistry with everyone but Bo (and Ciara actually), but they're constantly pairing him up with Bo.

I've seen comments on the net about how Bo didn't respond,it would be difficult to respond to all those contradictions

Yeah, I'll rag on Bo, but Bo's been pretty damn great in this situation. People would complain about her being a mega-douche if she declared absolute love for Lauren too. The situation sucks. If Bo tells Lauren she loves her, she puts pressure on Lauren about a situation that Lauren can't hope to resolve with Nadia still in a coma (and possibly making Lauren choose her over a woman she sold herself into slavery for when Bo still does have feelings for Dyson would also be a real asshole move).

Lauren is absolutely conflicted (and stuck), right now and Bo knows it.

Bo's handling of this situation is really the only adult handling of anything I've seen her do. And her dedication to Lauren during this really fucking awkward and weird-ass situation they are in speaks volumes about Bo's feelings for Lauren. The writers can write about Bo/Dyson all they want, but Lauren's the one I see her displaying real, mature love for.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Really happy that they addressed Bo's past killings.


Me too. It had really been bugging me all season how the thing that seemed to be weighing on Bo's mind the most was the lack of Dyson's cock in her life.

Really happy they reminded the viewers that true lurve with Dyson or Lauren or not, Bo still has to have Sexymeals with randoms to live.

THIS! Even more so than Bo's serial killer past being ignored, THIS POINT RIGHT HERE is what was pissing me off. She's a succubus. We really should see more/or get random Kenzi comments about Bo's sexy-times.

I feel like it'll continue to be mostly ignored until the writers need it to cock-block/create moar angst in the future. Like should Lauren leave Nadia for a fae who can never really be just hers? Or should Dyson risk everything to get back the love he gave up for a woman who can never be his the way he needs her to be? Or some crap like that.

Hopefully not though, I want the show to prove me wrong.

I wish Bo would make out with Lauren's face a bit more often

This! I mean, I understand why they don't know with Nadia coma-ing between them, but that's why I wish the Nadia reveal had been held off on for an episode or two so that we could have actually gotten a chance to see Bo and Lauren as a couple.

They are all tension and barely any release.

[ralst.livejournal.com]

All in all, another good episode... I'm sure three or four in a row must be a sign of the apocolypse or something.

I actually rather liked Dyson in this episode. I have a feeling my like/dislike of him is directly related to how well he treats Lauren and his little shoulder squeeze made me look on him favourably for the rest of the episode. Also, the lack of Bo/Dyson true love, which tends to sour me on both characters rather quickly.

Kenzi running to Hale for police help was good; it keeps up the growing K/H friendship and stops Dyson from being the centre of the universe, which make him more likeable.

Halfway through the episode I was bemoaning the lack of Lauren screentime but then they go and gives us the sharing/blurting scene and those complaints fizzled out. Well, I was still moaning about the lack of duccubus kisses, but that goes without saying.

I agree, Nadia needs to wake up sooner rather than later, so that we can get these love triangles flowing - I've just realised that the second Nadia wakes up they'll have three overlapping love triangles on the show. I wonder if that's a record?

It's good that they addressed Bo's past but I wonder if we'll ever get anything on the people that she sexed to death after she realised what her powers would do? I mean, Kyle was an accident, but with the rest she doesn't have that comfy little excuse to fall back on.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

four in a row must be a sign of the apocolypse or something.


I know, right. I'm scared to get my hopes up, but I'm starting to anticipate episodes of this show again (which makes me happy AND terrified).

four in a row must be a sign of the apocolypse or something.

Dyson doesn't really bother me, he just BORES me to tears. I'm glad that the territorial pissing between him and Lauren has died down though.

I think unless Dyson is possessed by someone fun/with a personality that I'll never really like him though. He's just so ... I almost fell asleep just trying to describe how boring he is.

I was bemoaning the lack of Lauren screentime

lol me too. Season 1 really kind of trained me to think that after Lauren got two lines that I'd never see her again, so I start to get worked up this season and then she shows up again. I'm glad that my indignation is being proven wrong this season and Lauren actually feels like a member of the cast.

I've just realised that the second Nadia wakes up they'll have three overlapping love triangles on the show. I wonder if that's a record?

LOL! Well I guess it is a show about a succubus (even if she's the most chaste succubus ever)

I wonder if we'll ever get anything on the people that she sexed to death after she realised what her powers would do?

I really want this addressed too! Like Bo is all "Up with Humans!" but for a decade she was choosing who lived and who died. I'd like an episode where they kind of confirm that she did indeed try to 'Dexter' her victims, which is to say she picked people who were scumbags. And I would really love one of the fae's she's hunting down (or someone else) to call her on this and to hear what she has to say, because Bo can be really self-righteous for someone who was essentially a serial killer.

I don't need some deep,philosophical response, but it would be nice to have her on the record be like, "I chose to live. I tried to minimize the damage I did, but yes I killed to live. If I was still living the way I was before and someone came after me for it, I probably would have deserved to have been put down. But now that I can control my powers I'm trying to help people instead of hurt of them. That doesn't erase what I've done, but it's a reason for me to keep on going."

Or something.

It doesn't have to be something that addressed all the time, but it really should be addressed.

[telepresence.livejournal.com]

Well, we know she was about 5 seconds from chowing down on that dude in the hardware store in Season 1, and he didn't do anything wrong.

I assume that Bo spent a decade assuming she was bad, that sex was bad, that she was a sex monster, and that her choices in life were commit suicide, or eat people, and that it was the possibility of at least a percentage of her meals being bad people that kept her tiptoeing on the side of "not committing suicide".

We know her self esteem is wretched, and we know she took jobs like bartender, where I assume she got to scan dozens or hundreds of people a night and mooooostly eat the scumbags?

In a way, it's a shame Bo is the lead character on the show. Her backstory would suit her to be something like a support character with major penance and issues, but the show can't really afford to let her be quite that broken for quite that long. Maybe an HBO or FX show could pull that off, having the hero start pretty far down the hole of being a villain and spend multiple seasons crawling out.

Is it a bad sign for my morality that IMO the worst thing Bo did in S1 was mojo that waitress and skip out on the tab? That poor waitress! They're going to pull that from her already inadequate salary, and Bo didn't leave a tip either!

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Well, we know she was about 5 seconds from chowing down on that dude in the hardware store in Season 1, and he didn't do anything wrong.

Damn, I forgot about that.

I assume that Bo spent a decade assuming... that she was a sex monster, and that her choices in life were commit suicide, or eat people...

And this right here is my problem, because if she did choose and/or let herself kill random people for a decade just to protect herself that's some EVIL shit right there.

The show is obviously not interested in delving too deeply into Bo's psychology and so as a viewer I would totally accept a little retconning if it was about Bo 'Dexter-ing' her way through life as opposed to killing indiscriminately when she got peckish.

Because a Bo that 'just hoped she was mostly killing bad guys' is not someone I want to watch (especially since her attitude since arriving in Fae Town has been so lacksadaisical).

In a way, it's a shame Bo is the lead character on the show. Her backstory would suit her to be something like a support character with major penance and issues

I don't know, I mean people can get on-board with characters with pretty bad pasts, given that it's addressed - and without the character constantly angsting.

Like who doesn't love Xena, and she was a murdering warlord for years! The thing is, Xena owned up to her past, and then was focused on helping people so you could support her because of the good she was doing and the remorse she felt.

And Cara from Legend of Seeker. She spent years torturing, humiliating and abusing people in various ways. Yet, again she acknowledged her past, apologized for her mistakes and worked to try to help people.

Both Xena and Cara were pretty despicable in their pasts, but the audiences love them, and they were both well-rounded characters who weren't constantly moping around because of their prior bad deeds.

Lost Girl could have easily taken the same route with Bo. In an early episode she could have had a talk with Kenzi where she was like, "I killed live Kenz. They were bad people, but they were people and I took their lives. Maybe the world's better off without them, maybe it's not. We'll never know because of me. But I'm here, I'm alive, and now I know how to control this thing inside of me and do something good with it, and that's what I'm going to do." And then the audience and Bo could have moved on to her redemption.

The problem with Lost Girl was that they were like "BO WAS ON A KILLING SPREE" and then she was just like a horny sorority girl for most of the season. Xena and Cara went through arcs before they got BFFs, and were trusted and respected by those around them.

Whereas, Bo just seemed to flip a switch, and being hit on the nose by Kenzi was enough to tame her instincts and she was just instantly a social butterfly that everyone immediately trusted and was willing to risk their lives to help. No struggle.

I think it was lazy writing in the first season was the problem, not Bo's past. The writers just stuck their fingers in their ears, and ignored problems that could have been solved relatively easily, and now its a source of majority irritation to people.

Is it a bad sign for my morality that IMO the worst thing Bo did in S1 was mojo that waitress and skip out on the tab?

I thought that was really bad too. Bo really didn't make the best first impression. The second season has started to redeem her in my eyes, but I pretty much have to forget like 95% of Bo's actions in Season 1 to groove with her this season.

I mean, where does BO "KILLING SPREE" DENNIS (is this really her last name?) get off freezing Lauren out for omitting information? Sit your murdering ass down Bo, and really consider which of the two of you has moral indignation on her side.

[telepresence.livejournal.com]

The other scenario, which probably fits but the show probably doesn't want to go into, is Bo, wretched self esteem, taught sex is bad, thinking she's an evil sex monster, spends a decade having her sexuality exploited by very bad people. Dating, and convincing herself she was in love with, or deserved no better than truly vile people. Relationships with pimps, rapists, abusers, basically anywhere where any sex was going to be really horrible/exploitative/abusive anyway. Waking up next to someone who is dead due to feeding, as opposed to OD'd on drugs, or beaten to death by a John or whatever.

Of course Lost Girl is not that kind of show, but "well, I dated nice people, or picked up ransoms in clubs, then ate them and moved to a new city" is pretty horrific.

[fembuck.livejournal.com]

Dark as it is, I think that scenario would really have fit with the religious guilt that Bo talked about this episode. And it would fit with what we saw in the pilot.

And in the same way that her Mord'Sith past makes people want to cuddle Cara, I could see Bo volunteering putting herself in the hands of those people to save other people from her really engendering sympathy for her (which is very much missing at the moment).

Having a succubus main character should have been really interesting, but TPTB have ignored and sidelined Bo's nature so much that someone could go episodes without even realizing/remembering that she's a succubus.

Bo could have been this epically tragic character, a combination of Cara and Kahlan, having to sleep with people she detests to survive while unable to ever touch someone she loves for fear of destroying them. Instead, she's ... well, Bo.

but "well, I dated nice people, or picked up ransoms in clubs, then ate them and moved to a new city" is pretty horrific.

THIS! In fact it's the most horrific way. I could deal with her having a murderous past in pretty much ANY way but this, which is why I want it dealt with cause this is totally what it feels like!