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Okay, so the episode is actually called "Gnothi Seauton" but I like my title better, lol.  The important thing is that I'm continuing to dig Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. 

First off, Cameron is love.  "Why are diamonds a girl's best friend?"  lol, oh Cameron.  Her little laugh after Enrique was all like "you don't talk much do you?" was hilarious.  But I think the best moment was Silent!HotGirl checking her out and Cameron then mimicking her pose leaning against the hood of the car.  I do not approve of the make-over Silent!HotGirl gave her though (and the horribleness of it puts me firmly on the side of Silent!HotGirl doing it just to touch Cameron).  Sarah's little WTF look during the make-up scene cracked me up too.

I also loved that Sarah and Cameron are like the odd couple and a buddy cop team all rolled into one.  I'm totally thrilled that they're letting the two characters spend so much screen time together.  The femslasher in me also loved that Cameron was following Sarah around like a little puppy.  Seriously, every time Sarah went into another room, Cameron followed her there like "Where did the pretty go?  Oh, here's where the pretty went!".  Her offering to give Sarah a diamond was also 'awwww' worthy.

I'm liking what the writers and Lena are doing with Sarah as well.  Some are complaining that she's not the unrelenting badass that she was in T2, but truthfully, you can't center a show around a character that is that hard.  I'm glad they're making her a little more human and accessible.  The little touch to John's cheek, smiling when she was talking about The Wizard of Oz, etc.  In this episode especially they managed to make her very complicated and fascinating, and I hope that complexity continues.  FemRambo would not be nearly as interesting as the nuanced character they're building up.

That being said, I love the touches of badass Sarah we got.  The motorcycle scene was hot, and I floved her just straight up pushing Cameron out of the window and then hightailing it out of there.  She was outta that window before John, and she was like at the end of the street before John and Cameron even started running!  LOVE!

John was also way more interesting, if also stupid this episode.  I totally understood him leaving the house and going to the mall though, being couped up for three days would make anyone, even John Connor throw caution to the wind a little, though going to Dennis the Beeper Kings house was a pretty stupid.  (Digression:  Hi, Sonia Walger ... you're really hot!)  I liked that John was a little more rebellious and independent this episode instead of being the Momma's Boy he was in the pilot. 

And just because it was awesome, I loved Sarah's little "Jenny, you ignorant slut!" routine when Cameron was totally gonna killinate that cops ass.  Lena and Summer really work well together.

All, in all ... so pretty um, I mean ... cannot wait until the next episode!

Date: 2008-01-15 03:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] billy-rose.livejournal.com
lol..
I love how Cam always seems slightly bewildered when Sarah does something and doesn't fill her in on it
that m imicking pose thing was so damn cute as well - along with the "Do you want one? They're a girl's best friend."

ha.. killinate...
also, I spy a drinking game - every time John whines, do a shot

Date: 2008-01-15 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I love how Cam always seems slightly bewildered when Sarah does something and doesn't fill her in on it

Yeah, I know "she's like whatever crazy lady" and just follows her. I love that it kind of works the other way around too. Like when Sarah was all "we've been talking about IDs for three days and you only told be about the future people now!?!"

that m imicking pose thing was so damn cute as well - along with the "Do you want one? They're a girl's best friend."

I loved these scenes muchly. Muchly!

I spy a drinking game - every time John whines, do a shot

I'm a gonna be so drunk at the end of episodes!

Date: 2008-01-15 05:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ashirashadow.livejournal.com
killinate

'nuff said. :D

Date: 2008-01-15 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
lol, it's great isn't it? I wish I could take credit for it but [livejournal.com profile] teh_no coined that phrase and I just borrow it all the time cause it's awesome!

Date: 2008-01-15 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trancer21.livejournal.com
Some are complaining that she's not the unrelenting badass that she was in T2, but truthfully, you can't center a show around a character that is that hard.

Yeah, that seems a strange thing to nitpick about. Like you said, Sarah can't be *that* hard. More importantly, I think it's a continuation of who Sarah used to be. Being hard has gotten to her - it's fucked her up, it's fucked her son up and now she's stuck with the realization that, after everything she's done, it *still* might not be enough. Hell, in tonight's ep, she straight up learns it *wasn't* enough. Had Cameron not sent them to the future, both John and Sarah would be dead. Even the hardest person would crack a little under that kind of strain.

I floved her just straight up pushing Cameron out of the window and then hightailing it out of there.

Hee! That was awesome! And you know Cameron would have totally approved. If she's willing to put a cap in Enrique's ass to protect Sarah, she's down with getting pushed out a window.

The femslasher in me also loved that Cameron was following Sarah around like a little puppy.

Seriously. I was like 'um, weren't you sent back to protect *John*?' and Cam's all 'yeah, but Sarah's so much prettier! Me like the pretty.'.

John was also way more interesting, if also stupid this episode.

I'm thinking he gets the stupid from his dad. Still, I like that John is a dumb, whiny teenager who wants to be the rebellious teen but, in his heart, he's a total momma's boy because when Mom screams *move* his ass is up and running.

Date: 2008-01-15 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
More importantly, I think it's a continuation of who Sarah used to be. Being hard has gotten to her - it's fucked her up, it's fucked her son up and now she's stuck with the realization that, after everything she's done, it *still* might not be enough.

Exactly! It's called character development. Not only that she'd been living in relative peace for 2 years before this, was coming off of a whirlwind romance. She's not the same Sarah who escaped from a mental facility. Badass as she is, she's still human.

If she's willing to put a cap in Enrique's ass to protect Sarah, she's down with getting pushed out a window.

I loved that she put a cap in Enrique's ass cause she knew Sarah couldn't/wouldn't do it. They've only known each other for like 4 days and already she knows her boo.

I also totally love that even though Sarah will make Tin Man cracks, that she still keeps opening up to Cameron like she can't help herself.

I was like 'um, weren't you sent back to protect *John*?' and Cam's all 'yeah, but Sarah's so much prettier! Me like the pretty.'.

I know, I love it! Cam doesn't give a shit about John right now. I thought I the Sarah/Cameron shipper in me was showing through when she touched his neck because I was all like "she was just checking his pulse" or something, and when she really was, I was like "huzzah! she is so gay for teh sarah!".

Still, I like that John is a dumb, whiny teenager who wants to be the rebellious teen but, in his heart, he's a total momma's boy because when Mom screams *move* his ass is up and running.

lol, so true. The bit of sass he showed this ep. was far better than his total wussification last episode, but he's still totally a momma's boy under the very thin veneer of rebellion

Date: 2008-01-15 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trancer21.livejournal.com
Badass as she is, she's still human.

Yes. She's a human preparing for a war that won't happen (at the time the show started) for another ten years. She can't tell anyone because they'll think she's crazy. There are machines constantly being sent back in time to kill her and her son, leaving her with living with the fear that she can *never* let her guard down because the moment she does - someone will try to kill her. Dude, that's alot of baggage to carry for 16 years.

..she still keeps opening up to Cameron like she can't help herself.

Which is interesting because the only person Sarah can be completely human with is a robot. Just like the Terminator/a robot was the best father for John, a terminator is the best companion for Sarah (and in femslash-land that totally means *lovers*!)

"huzzah! she is so gay for teh sarah!"

Heh. And now things get *really* Freudian. Because Future John sent back a Terminator based on his Dead Girlfriend so Lil John can meet his future OTP, except, he's totally programmed Cam to be a sexbot for his lonely, gun-toting, closeted mother.

Date: 2008-01-15 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Dude, that's alot of baggage to carry for 16 years.

Honestly, I think it's far impressive and badass of Sarah to still be able to feel something and be sane at all. The woman is under a crazy amount of stress, and the fact that she hasn't let herself shut down or cemented her heart is a testament to her.

I like that we're seeing the wear and tear on her. It's not just "Robots and big guns! COOL!" It's "I like having no name, no identity because for a few days I can be myself and feel before ignoring everything I am and becoming something new for the world".

Which is interesting because the only person Sarah can be completely human with is a robot. Just like the Terminator/a robot was the best father for John, a terminator is the best companion for Sarah (and in femslash-land that totally means *lovers*!)

So true. It's fascinating and sad and strangely romantic.

Because Future John sent back a Terminator based on his Dead Girlfriend so Lil John can meet his future OTP, except, he's totally programmed Cam to be a sexbot for his lonely, gun-toting, closeted mother.

Future!John sounds far more interesting than Emo!John if this is the case, lol. Future!John must have totally been, "I suck with girls, I needed to date more in High School but Mom was such a hardass! Hmmm ... I know! If mom got laid more, she would have been more relaxed, and I could've had a girlfriend. Hmmm (again), Mom turned me into a manly version of herself, and I like this hot girl, therefore .... MOM WILL LIKE THIS HOT GIRL TOO! I'm so smrt ... smart!"

How weird will it be for him to then later fall in love with a lady who looks like his other mommy.

Dude, John's fucked up! I love it ;)

Date: 2008-01-15 07:50 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
John has two mommies.

Date: 2008-01-15 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Two HOT mommies. I'd say he's a lucky bastard, but I think that would really be the cruelest punishment of all. It almost makes me feel sad for John. Better, way better for me, but it kind of sucks for him ;)

Date: 2008-01-15 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teh-no.livejournal.com
There needs to be crossover fic where John has a date with Dinah, so Cameron/Sarah and Barbara/Helena are all "oh noes! Our secret crime-fighting homogay family unit is in danger!"

Also, Queen Gorgo and River Tam visit Master Bra'tac. HEE!

Date: 2008-01-15 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
OMG, this would be the best. I could totally see Helena trying to out-badass Cameron, all jealous of someone horning in on her 'Young, Sexy Ass-Kicker' territory, and Barbara trying to be all geeky with Sarah and Sarah being like "Where are you're guns? computers are John's bag".

*looks hopefully*

Also, Queen Gorgo and River Tam visit Master Bra'tac. HEE!

OMG, sci-fi overload, brain orgasming ... totally ... awesome

Date: 2008-01-15 09:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hivesix.livejournal.com
I should start watching, then? We're just getting stupid Bionic Woman (I hate that show!!) here now so we're not going to get Terminator any time soon. Rawr.

Date: 2008-01-15 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
You should totally start watching. I mean, it's only two episodes in, but they've both been good, and it's so full pretty ... and the pretty also kicks ass.

We're just getting stupid Bionic Woman (I hate that show!!) here now so we're not going to get Terminator any time soon. Rawr.

*sigh* The Bionic Woman thing is so sad. I had hopes for that show, and it just ended up sucking so hard. I could tell BW was going to end up sucking by it's second episode however, and Terminator second ep. was pretty good. I'm hoping it follows in the path of Blade: The Series and just gets better with every ep. (though hopefully without the cancellation thing, lol)

Date: 2008-01-15 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ralst.livejournal.com
I'm lovin' this show so far. I love that Sarah and Cameron are this commando team off meeting with criminals and fighting arnie-bots while John it told to stay home and stay out of trouble like a good little girl boy. I even kind of like his knuckle-headed need to disobey and do something stupid, because as they keep saying he's not the John Connor yet, he's still just a teenage boy and therefore bound to have attacks of the stupid mixed in with his mommy dependency.

Pushing Cameron through the window was perfect.

The femslash potential for this show is enormous! Obviously, they're gonna throw in some John crushing on Cameron subtext (his misunderstanding of her touching his neck etc.) but it's pretty obvious that she only has eyes for the pretty, and that's his mommy dearest.

Date: 2008-01-15 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I love that Sarah and Cameron are this commando team off meeting with criminals and fighting arnie-bots while John it told to stay home and stay out of trouble like a good little girl boy.

I know! I loved that! It's like "Stay here John. Mommy has grown up things to do with her special friend".

I even kind of like his knuckle-headed need to disobey and do something stupid, because as they keep saying he's not the John Connor yet, he's still just a teenage boy and therefore bound to have attacks of the stupid mixed in with his mommy dependency.

Word. Stupid as he was this episode, I liked him almost 100% more than I did in the pilot.

Pushing Cameron through the window was perfect.

I think I fell in love with Sarah when she did that.

The femslash potential for this show is enormous! Obviously, they're gonna throw in some John crushing on Cameron subtext (his misunderstanding of her touching his neck etc.) but it's pretty obvious that she only has eyes for the pretty, and that's his mommy dearest.

Really, who can blame her. Sarah is the far, far, far, far, far superior Connor, lol. I'm already ruing the day that the make the John/Cameron thing a notable plot point/line, but as long as they don't minimize the Sarah/Cameron screen time and keep having them as Emotionally Sharing Buddy Cops I think I'll be able to deal with it.

Bonus points to them, if they keep up Cameron's disdain for this teenage John for a while longer.

Date: 2008-01-15 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crys-22.livejournal.com
Word to everything you said. I'm so glad this show isn't horrible. I was really dreading that it would completely suck and I would still end up watching it because I'm weak and my love for Lena holds no bounds.

What really surprises me, is my sudden crush on Summer Glau. I'm ashamed to admit, I never saw the appeal in her before, but now I've seen the light.

I'm really excited to see where they take this show.

Date: 2008-01-15 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I'm so glad this show isn't horrible. I was really dreading that it would completely suck and I would still end up watching it because I'm weak and my love for Lena holds no bounds.

Oh, I know! *bows down* I was fearing that it would be another Bionic Woman or Painkiller Jane, and I really don't think I could have dealt with it. It would have made me so sad.

What really surprises me, is my sudden crush on Summer Glau. I'm ashamed to admit, I never saw the appeal in her before, but now I've seen the light.

lol, I always liked Summer as River and thought that she was badass, but I never found her hot. I'm still mostly about Lena right now, but Summer's hot factor has definitely gone up. When she was leaning against the hood of the truck posing, I was definitely feeling it.

I'm really excited to see where they take this show.

Me too! I like what they're doing so far, let's hope it continues.

Date: 2008-01-16 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amluv.livejournal.com
The motorcycle scene was hot, and I floved her just straight up pushing Cameron out of the window and then hightailing it out of there.

Easily my two favorite moments of both eps. And I ain't ashamed to say that both made me want to touch my naughty place.

I like how Cameron is both practical and childlike all in the same breath. I think it helps that Summer played a similar character because it's not an easy balance to pull off. But yeah, that scene w/ the SHC brings the gay!text...

BTW, I like your title too. ;)

I wish the writing was a bit more...just more I guess. It feels kinda of flat, despite the really good moments. I suppose I can just attribute that to the show getting its legs, because HEROES kinda started the same way and then it did this really cool turn by the 5th ep. In any event, i look forward to reading more of your Lena Headey-sturbatio...erm poignant commentary about the show.

Date: 2008-01-20 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Easily my two favorite moments of both eps. And I ain't ashamed to say that both made me want to touch my naughty place.

And I'm not ashamed to say that you talking about touching your naughty place makes me want to touch mine *suggestive leer*

But yeah, badass Sarah is a pantie ruiner ... and I love her for it :D

I like how Cameron is both practical and childlike all in the same breath. I think it helps that Summer played a similar character because it's not an easy balance to pull off.

True dat *is horrified that she just typed true dat* I'm delighted by how Summer is playing the role. It's a tough balance and I think she's doing wonderfully. I was afraid that they would make Cameron too robot and it would get boring or that they would make her too human and I wouldn't be able to believe it, but I like the happy medium they've got going on.

Also, I hope they have attractive women check Cameron out all the time ... because, hey, I would.

I wish the writing was a bit more...just more I guess. It feels kinda of flat, despite the really good moments. I suppose I can just attribute that to the show getting its legs, because HEROES kinda started the same way and then it did this really cool turn by the 5th ep.

I know what you mean. I'm hoping it's a case of getting their sea legs as well, and in another couple episodes they'll have stepped up their game a bit. It usually takes me a few episode to begin to love a show as I'll give them a chance. Plus, it's such a pretty show.

i look forward to reading more of your Lena Headey-sturbatio...erm poignant commentary about the show.

lol, I give the audience what they want ;)

Date: 2008-01-16 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] padawanmage.livejournal.com
I'm liking what I'm seeing so far, especially now we know that more resistance fighters were sent as far back as 1960...but I'm guessing Skynet must've known that or else they wouldn't have sent that one guy to kill those soldiers in that room.

Pretty cool fight scene with Cam and that Terminator. Wonder why it didn't recognize her model when it scanner her?

I laughed so hard when Sarah just dumped Cameron right out the window.

Here's hoping for a long season, as well as some fics (cough!) ;-)

Date: 2008-01-20 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
especially now we know that more resistance fighters were sent as far back as 1960...

Yeah, I'm liking that they're building up a mythology for this time line. After the pilot I was kind like "what the hell is this show gonna be about every week", so I'm liking these little elements that they're dropping in.

Pretty cool fight scene with Cam and that Terminator. Wonder why it didn't recognize her model when it scanner her?

Well, she said she's not like any model John's ever met before, so I'm guessing she's a new model, probably built by John which is why she's so human-like.

I just hope they don't go the super-creepy route of having Cameron be a replica of like what John's wife in the future looks like or something. I couldn't handle to ick of him sending a robot version of his wife back for his teenage son to make eyes at.

I laughed so hard when Sarah just dumped Cameron right out the window.

That was good comedy right there.

Here's hoping for a long season, as well as some fics (cough!) ;-)

I'll second that. And I'm sure this show will inspire a least a few more stories ;)

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