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This picture is almost enough to make me cry about the fact that the series will never be made into a movie and/or television show because I'll never get to see Maggie Q play Ivy (or as I like to think of this perfect blend of hotness ... Ivy Q).

Fucking Flawless.








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And now it's time for my obligatory ... WHY IS IT NOT APRIL 7th YET???  I NEED NIKITA BACK IN MY LIFE!!!! comment.

Warning: hatin' abounds in this comment

Date: 2011-03-31 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Ah, yes. I'd heard about the kiss.

I'm such a hater at this point that I can't find it within myself to get excited/hopeful about it. I haven't even read the scene. Last book I at least read the scenes that people said were decent, but I can't even bring myself to do that with Pale Demon (even though I'm hearing its much better than the last few books). I honestly fear my [Mary J. Blige]hateration[/MJB] might be too far along to ever really forgive K.H. for what she's done to the series.

Like you I get the impression that Harrison is just fucking with us till the end. I feel like I've been doing this ...

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for 8 books, but unlike you at this point I have almost no hope that Rachel and Ivy's HEA's will involve them getting together as a couple. I get the impression that at the end of the last book, Ravy fans will feel like Burt.

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Edited Date: 2011-03-31 02:28 am (UTC)

Re: Warning: hatin' abounds in this comment

Date: 2011-03-31 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaina47.livejournal.com
Fair enough. Pale Demon was way better...whether it's awesome enough to overcome all the chain-yanking Harrison has done, even I'm not sure. But it did make me a little hopeful that maybe, just maybe, she wouldn't totally fuck her Ravy fans over in the end.

I guess what I'm saying is that for the first time in a couple of books, I actually saw a possibility of where she could be going if she doesn't chicken out again some more.

Re: Warning: hatin' abounds in this comment

Date: 2011-03-31 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I apologize in advance for any Debbie Downer-ing in this comment ... I speak from heartache not from a desire to sound like a contrary bitch ;)

I think I need to wait to see what people's thoughts on the next book are before I will be able to read this one. I'm like a spurned lover right now, who can't hear my douche-bag ex's name without wanting to throw things before I break down in tears. It's too fresh.

I tried to start reading Pale Demon, and intellectually I could tell it was alright, but it was like my brain was trying to protect my fragile heart by remaining aloof from the text, and I found that I couldn't get into it.

I guess what I'm saying is that for the first time in a couple of books, I actually saw a possibility of where she could be going if she doesn't chicken out again some more.

It is encouraging to hear that things are looking up again.

How much Ivy was there in this book?

I've got the idea in my head that Kim is not nearly as interested in Ivy as a character as she was at the beginning of the series, and this makes me worry that if Kim's girl!crush on Ivy has worn off that bodes poorly for a Ravy ending.

Re: Warning: hatin' abounds in this comment

Date: 2011-03-31 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaina47.livejournal.com
No, I get that. Harrison has jerked her fans around enough that everyone's fingers feel at least a little singed. I assume she has het leaning fans (I mean, she has to right?) and I'd bet even they're not that thrilled with the dance she's been doing. She's making no one happy.

I'll say upfront that there was A LOT of Trent in this book. But. He was bearable for me because he was achieving and surpassing levels of stupid previously reserved only for Rachel. It was almost to the point where I was getting pissed 'cause "Trent is not this dumb!" And I don't even like Trent. But I like character assassination less, you know?

There was a decent bit of Ivy, not as Ivy-centric as some have been. But she does get to be snarky and awesome and herself a little more. She was reaching for independence, that awesome, broken woman. There was no Glenn mention though. I was a little curious about that and where that was going. I think she actually made awesome use of Ivy when she was in scenes compared to some other recent books where all Ivy does is stand there and look pretty, you know? Ivy is awesomer than that and she got to kick ass this book too.

Re: Warning: hatin' abounds in this comment

Date: 2011-03-31 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
I assume she has het leaning fans (I mean, she has to right?) and I'd bet even they're not that thrilled with the dance she's been doing. She's making no one happy.

This is very true. There was a lot of frustration from the het fans after Pale Demon. The Ravy fans finally had others to join in with the bitching about being jerked around. By trying to appeal to everyone and appease everyone she's made NO ONE happy.

I tried to read the first few chapters of Pale Demon and I realized that it was going to be endless Trent. I've liked Trent in small doses (well, liked to hate on him), but I was kind of overwhelmed by the amount of Trent.

And I don't even like Trent. But I like character assassination less, you know?

*thinks about Skimmer ... nods* Yeah, I know.

There was a decent bit of Ivy, not as Ivy-centric as some have been. But she does get to be snarky and awesome and herself a little more.

Good to know. From what I read Ivy seemed to be in fine form, but I wasn't in the mindset to appreciate it. I honestly think I need to leave it for a while and read the book once I can think about the series without immediately getting irritated (if that day happens, which I honestly hope it will). Knowing that Ivy gets to kick ass, and be independent and awesome will help speed up the process hopefully.

Re: Warning: hatin' abounds in this comment

Date: 2011-03-31 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booasaur.livejournal.com
Heh...this reminds me of ST:Voyager and the various ships/fandoms there, the strongest being J/C and J/7 so of course the ending waaaas....C/7.
Nicely done.

I get your wariness, though, and since you're the one who turned me back to Hollows with your awesome fic (after I'd given it up before for being too like Anita Blake and Southern Vamp, without anything to redeem or separate it), I'll probably wait till the end and then see if I can go back.

Re: Warning: hatin' abounds in this comment

Date: 2011-03-31 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
Oh, dear god. I'd almost managed to wipe the memory of C/7 from my mind. WTF was that shit? God, that was awful. Ugh.

I'll probably wait till the end and then see if I can go back.

That's the point I'm at now too. The thought of reading one of the books right now makes me nauseous. I tried to read the start of Pale Demon and couldn't do it. You were right to be weary, I'm sorry I dragged you back into the web of despair that the Hollows became.

Re: Warning: hatin' abounds in this comment

Date: 2011-03-31 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liberty-stewart.livejournal.com
Off topic since I never read the Kim Harrison series and probably for the better, but I absolutely love that Bert gif. He just cracks me up.

Re: Warning: hatin' abounds in this comment

Date: 2011-03-31 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fembuck.livejournal.com
The Burt .gif is a keeper.

And you are wise to stay away from the Hollows. It will lure you in at first, charm you, wine and dine you, whisper sweet nothings in your ear, and then it will sleep with your best friend, max out your credit card and leave you wondering what the hell was wrong with you that you ever feel for its bullshit.

Yeah, I know ... haters stay pressed ;)

Re: Warning: hatin' abounds in this comment

Date: 2011-03-31 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] liberty-stewart.livejournal.com
Both of us are familiar with the series Heroes, and if the buildup to eventual disappointment of the Hollows is anything like that show, then wise to star away indeed.

On the better side, there are two series that was recommended through your LJ that I do adore. In an honourable second place is Legend of the Seeker. While first place goes to the awesomeness that is the cartoon series Avatar.

Speaking of Avatar, I have a better idea how terrible is the M Night Shyamalan garbage. No I didn't watch it, but I did recently saw a new 25 min review of it with footage from the film. Which I think is the only possible way to actually sit through the film.

Both the actors and characters are terrible, but I would be lying if I said I didn't find some of it unintentionally funny. Then again it might have been the review. For example the element bending. It was so terrible. In the cartoons the elements actually correspond to the character's movements. In the movie, it looked like the characters had to do bad interpretative dance to activate the elements, then what happened after that would be random.

The movie made element bending look comical. I laugh every time I see that scene of the earth bender fight where one moment one guy could put up a rock wall with a single movement, then the next it takes six earth benders doing an over the top dance to move a tiny rock. It was even funnier when the review played that scene to the Jimi Hendrix song "Along the Watchtower".

Re: Warning: hatin' abounds in this comment

Date: 2011-04-01 07:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lostingeekdom.livejournal.com
I finally caught up with Pale Demon on my vacation. Ugh ... way too much Trent. Also, I don't like the pass he gets for his callousness on collateral damage, just because he is supposed to be pretty. He's not a bad guy anymore because he helped Rachel? At what cost? Oooh ... he's such a loving father .. let's not stop to think about all the kids who died when he released this episode's Big Bad. Either he doesn't have any kind of conscience, which makes him a fucking sociopath, or that's some serious lazy-ass writing.

Also, I got the impression that this was pretty much it Ravy, and it will be cock-blocking all the way. Plus, I think I read in some forum that Ivy was going to hook up with the chick from one of the short stories (I need to get my hands on those). If so, I'm all for it. Ivy deserves happiness, and Rachel is too fucking nuts for her.

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