Rachel Morgan is a dumb shit!
Jan. 11th, 2009 10:22 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
fembuckOH MY DOG GOD! I cannot believe that it took Rachel two and a half books to figure out that Ivy was gay.
OMG! How stupid is she?
What a dumb shit. What an unimaginable ignoramus.
How is she still alive?
Fuuuuuuck.
I mean, like goddamn! Really ... really ... ??? People hire this chick to detect stuff! They put their lives in her hands, and it takes her like a year living with Ivy to figure out that she likes girl bits? OMG, what a mutherfucking idiot.
That scene was priceless though. Fuuuuuck.
Also, I love Erica! "He treats me like I'm still crawling around in diapers trying to bite the dog!" HA!
OMG! How stupid is she?
What a dumb shit. What an unimaginable ignoramus.
How is she still alive?
Fuuuuuuck.
I mean, like goddamn! Really ... really ... ??? People hire this chick to detect stuff! They put their lives in her hands, and it takes her like a year living with Ivy to figure out that she likes girl bits? OMG, what a mutherfucking idiot.
That scene was priceless though. Fuuuuuck.
Also, I love Erica! "He treats me like I'm still crawling around in diapers trying to bite the dog!" HA!
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Date: 2009-01-12 03:44 am (UTC)I'll let you rant it out a little. I'm going to hold off until you finish book 3 to join in, because I have a major one building up.
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Date: 2009-01-12 04:49 am (UTC)Book 3 for me right now is strange mix of love and hate. Like, the afformentioned scene actually cracked me up a lot, I liked that scene despite the ranting about how dumb Rachel is. But there's a bunch of stuff that's bugging me right now (including the never-ending date she had with Kisten, omg I felt like that date took up a hundred pages, my god). I feel like there's no plot in this one. Like I mean, threads have been dangled, but I'm halfway through the book and mostly it's relationship angst which is boring. I liked the strong plots in the other two books, so this one is dragging a little for me (I've really only been perking up when Ivy shows up).
I wanna finish the book so I can hear your rant though (and possibly join in!)
lost_dreamer23, pissed off at lj.
Date: 2009-01-12 03:47 am (UTC)second, your tiny commentary just might have saved my life. for real. email me? bring.her.back@gmail.com
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Date: 2009-01-12 04:01 am (UTC)OMG.
Date: 2009-01-12 04:10 am (UTC)For real.
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Date: 2009-01-12 04:51 am (UTC)This is making me think of Twilight and the hate-on I had for Bella
alwaysat the beginning of New Moon. What I'll say for Rachel, is that so far she manages to win me over again with her snarky commentary. But yeah, she frustrates me A LOT.Just wait until Outlaw Demon Wails.
I'm chugging along. Hopefully it won't be too long!
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Date: 2009-01-13 02:18 am (UTC)I'm chugging along. Hopefully it won't be too long!
ODW is kind of weird for me because for the most part the folks that I talked to didn't love it so much whereas I thought it was awesome and one of my favorite of the series, so IDK.
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Date: 2009-01-12 04:24 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-12 04:34 am (UTC)This. If Rachel ever did miss this opportunity, she would spend the rest of her life smacking herself on the forehead.
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Date: 2009-01-12 04:42 am (UTC)Oh, definitely. I hope she gets with it soon, because who knows how long Ivy will wait for her to buy a freakin' clue.
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Date: 2009-01-12 04:59 am (UTC)Word. Like, I love Ivy's loyalty, but I almost think that Rachel kind of deserves it if Ivy goes away for while. Kind of an absense makes the heart grow fonder type of thing, where she realizes what she's missing. Of course, that would mean a book with very little Ivy and I don't really want that because I love Ivy like a fat kid loves cake. She's my precious. But yeah, Rachel totally takes Ivy, and her dreaminess for granted.
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Date: 2009-01-13 03:53 am (UTC)You'll get your wish :P but thank god only for awhile.
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Date: 2009-01-12 04:57 am (UTC)This. Which is so annoying! Like she needs to handle her shit! She's gotta deal with it, and even hope firmly on the denial train and leave Ivy the hell alone, or she's got to face her feelings and try for a relationship with Ivy like an adult. But the mixed signals, and co-dependence sucks and makes Rachel seem like a real douche.
When she met Piscary, the master vamp bespelled her, and Ivy just saying her name broke it! That doesn't happen!
I know, right! Even Piscary was thrown by it. EVERYONE can see what's going on between them except for Rachel.
Ivy is by far the best.girlfriend.EVER that Rachel could find, get over the fact that you are not used to macking on someone with girl bits and go for it already.
This. Ivy is fucking dreamy. I know the Skimmer thing doesn't end up well, but it was nice to see that someone appreciates Ivy and thinks that she's a fucking catch! It was also awesome to see Ivy happy. That's one thing I wish I would see more of in the books, is Ivy and Rachel hanging out and actually acting like friends without DRAMA and ANGST permeating their every conversation. Like it doesn't need to be a whole chapter, but like something with them playing cards and shooting the shit like friends before they have to run off and go save someone or something. The friendship thing is being TOLD to me, but it's not being shown very well. It seems like they do nothing but walk on eggshells around each other.
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Date: 2009-01-12 05:29 am (UTC)Yup. All my annoyance stems from the fact that this vital part of their life is missing. When that interaction isn't shown, Rachel being in love with Ivy is hard to believe for me. Practically every scene with Rachel and Ivy is filled with emo angst and wanting blood yada yada yada bullshit. But you don't see any part of where they actually have fun together, whereas you see a lot of that with every other male character. You don't see Rachel mentally or emotionally feeling connected to Ivy, and truly enjoying her company. That just doesn't come across for me. And so when KH pulls the dumbshit coming back across the ley lines scene at the end of book 3, the disconnect stands out for me. And I'm really pissed because I would love to believe that those feeling were actually real for Rachel.
I always get the feeling that what Rachel feels for Ivy is more envy than admiration: for her wealth, looks, taste, her physical abilities. The rest of the time, she's dismissive of Ivy as she thinks Ivy needs her more that she needs Ivy. That's why Skimmer was a bit of a shock to her system. She didn't figure on competition coming her way. But then, she needn't worry, because KH needs Rachel to be the super awesome wonder witch, and that means no other character can in any way be interesting or good enough to be a viable threat. Bah!
Ok, so I couldn't hold my rant in until you finished the book. But tomorrow is Monday and work is going to suck the life right out of me, so I had to do it when I had time. I have the onerous task of deciding how I spend my very few free hours in the evenings on weekdays. Finish this series, or play Fable 2 on XBox? Considering my annoyance level with the series, I might end up opting more for XBox.
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Date: 2009-01-12 04:42 am (UTC)That said, yeah, I wanna smack her for being so dense on occasion. xD But didn't she know Ivy was bi before the third book? I swear she mentioned it before - she just hadn't had it dangled blatantly in front of her. Plus, her whole conversation with Skimmer in the first chapters of FaFDM kinda had her realizing that she did love Ivy. And now that Skimmer's out of the way . . .
Frick, I have GOT to get Outlaw Demon Wails. And the new one when it comes out.
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Date: 2009-01-12 04:52 am (UTC)This is true, like how she can make a huge circle, way bigger than Nick or her mom, or anyone she knows, but she doesn't want to think about why she can do it. She just wants to dismiss it as no big deal.
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Date: 2009-01-12 05:09 am (UTC)Yeah, still it's annoying as fuck. I mean, anyone who would potentially 'la la la I can't hear you' away their soulmate really deserves what's coming to them. I mean, it's not like Rachel's a complete social pariah, she's got people that care about her (and people seem to fall for her left right and center) so she needs to grow up a little and realize that nobody is really normal, and go with what is best for her ... not some random person on the street. It's like the woman is 24 (I'm guessing probably 26 or so by the sixth book), not 14.
But didn't she know Ivy was bi before the third book? I swear she mentioned it before - she just hadn't had it dangled blatantly in front of her.
I don't know. I don't think she knew. Her reaction to seeing Ivy and Skimmer in Book 3 really makes me think she had no clue. Like even after Ivy and Skimmer kissed on the lips, Rachel was still trying to work through it all like ... "They 'kissed' kissed on the lips. But girls don't kiss-kiss on the lips unless ... OMG ... GAYS!" Like she was so surprised, and then went on for a paragraph about how slow she was figuring it out (which earned her a few points. A least she knows she's a dumbass ... sometimes)
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Date: 2009-01-12 04:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-12 05:02 am (UTC)Rachel and Ivy's aura mixpart because how do you deny things after something like that. How does "I'm straight" trump "soulmates"? I don't know. Anyway, I know frustration is ahead, but I'm chugging along likeRachel Morganan idiot.no subject
Date: 2009-01-12 05:05 am (UTC)I don't know. I'm setting myself up for disappointment in the next book because I'm still holding out hope that it'll happen.
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Date: 2009-01-12 05:13 am (UTC)I'm going feel so burned if doesn't though. I mean, how can you set someone up as a love interest for your main character for 7 books and then have it go nowhere. Mostly, I'm already half-heartbroken on Ivy's account. She deserves better.
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Date: 2009-01-12 05:18 am (UTC)Which is why I like Skimmer a bit more than the way she's portrayed merits. I'm completely on the Rachel/Ivy bandwagon, but it was nice to see Ivy so happy, for once. :/
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Date: 2009-01-12 05:39 pm (UTC)Rachel/KH is the biggest tease ever. I'm obviously biased, but I don't know how she can ignore Ivy's epic love for her even if she's not a lesbian/bi. She'd have to be way at the straight extreme of the Kinsey scale to be that resistant. It feels a little heartless in addition to dumb.
Anyways, all of this makes me suspect that KH is just not willing to go there with this series. All the emoness is actually giving me Rachel/Ivy fatigue. If KH's not going to go there, I wish she'd lay off already on the blood stuff and move on with them being friends or something. Rachel is entertaining enough, no teasing of the lesbians necessary for me to read the books.
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Date: 2009-01-12 06:21 am (UTC)Me being the Harry Potter theorycraft junkie I once was, I have quite a lot of predictions for what comes in the future.
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Date: 2009-01-12 07:40 am (UTC)I'm on the fifth book right now so I can read the sixth (I fell behind) and my god, it only gets gayer.
And gayer.
Note: Calling out Ivy's name has a habit of fixing things in these novels. It's kind of hilarious. Come on, Rachel, stop for a second and think on the significance of that.
The fourth book will kill you. You know about the aura mixing thing and that whole scene is a game of 'oh hi, let's tempt the fuck out of the vampire because it turns me on but I'm still straight'. Denial, Miss Morgan. Agh.
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Date: 2009-01-12 02:50 pm (UTC)Heh, I think we will see some epic rant at this point. :P
But I really liked book four for that one particular scene...
But honestly, I think Rachel is brilliantly written and I find her very plausible. She's always been very much into men and there haven't been a lot (if any) women in her life that had made her feel the way Ivy has, so her confusion is very understandable. (Ok maybe she crushed on some girl in high-school but thought nothing of it.)
When she can do men, why do women? Even some totally gay people choose to live in a heterosexual relationship. I think that's why Rachel is so hard resisting.
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Date: 2009-01-12 07:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-12 08:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-01-12 08:45 am (UTC)denial ain't the only river in Egypt. Throughout the first 5 books I've moaned and groaned about the back and forth "bite me, oh sexy vampire whose in love with me. But for real I'm a straight white girl....REALLY!" content. Surely Harrison has written one of the greatest mindfucks on the planet, I'm kind of surprised that Ivy's not a psychotic blood sucker yet. In conclusion, I eagerly await someone else's version of Ivy/Rachel...please?
I must also beg forgiveness for being the super slacker when it comes to leaving comments on your stories, Janine, I've more than enjoyed each and everyone of them many times over.
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Date: 2009-01-14 11:27 pm (UTC)This is becoming very, very clear to me and I'm only on the third book. I don't even have to words to discuss how frustrating their relationship is to me right now. I'm looking forward to Ivy/Skimmer if only to get a break from the endless angst and stupidity train that is Ravy at the moment (and I'm only on book three!)
I've more than enjoyed each and everyone of them many times over.
Thanks, I'm glad you've enjoyed the stories. I'm a procrastinator too, so I understand, don't worry ;) Hopefully you'll like the stories my current Ravy obsession will lead to!
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