Just saw Star Trek ...
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fembuckFucking amazing!
First of all, Chris Pine is love. Looking at pictures of him does nothing for me, but on screen as James T. Kirk I wanted him to take me around behind the middle school and get me pregnant. Seriously, I know Kirk was a ladies man on the original series, but I never bought it with Shatner. Chris Pine both brought the sexy, and made me believe that Kirk was a genius and worth everyone creaming themselves over him. I would follow this James T. Kirk into battle.
Uhura/Spock, really amazing. I didn't know they would be a couple in this film, but I fucking loved them. Uhura is the best girlfriend ever, and Spock is so schmoopy. I was so living vicariously through her as she comforted him in the turbolift afterWinona Ryder Spock's mother died. The face holding, the kisses, the hug ... epically romantic.
Speaking of Uhura, did anyone catch what her first name was? I missed it both when Spock said it, and then when Kirk repeated it while asking if that was her first name.
Karl Urban rocked my panties as Bones. I loved every single moment he was on screen. Perfection. Karl Urban makes flaring your nostrils sexy ya'll. He's the male Megan Fox that way (only in the nostril flaring/hot sense, I know he's a far better thespian okay!) Also, I like that we got an explanation of why McCoy was called "Bones". Maybe they gave an explanation in the Original Series too, but because I wasn't even close to being born when that was on, I never knew where the nickname came from.
Sulu's folding sword was fucking amazing. I want one of those. "Fencing." lol. Not a lot of Sulu, but I liked what there was of him.
I've loved Anton Yelchin for a long time. I have no idea what the first thing I saw him in was, but I've always liked the kid. His Checkov was amazingly precious. I don't want to hit it, I just want to cuddle it. Seriously, so precious. And smart!
Rachel Nichols, I saw you! You were green! I have to admit, the greeniosity did obscure her hotness a little, but Gaila was amazing for her one big scene.
Seeing Leonard Nemoy made me ridiculously happy. Original!Spock you still hold a place in my heart. But, Zachary Quinto made a great Spock. I really loved him in the role, he really was perfection. Even boy!Spock was awesome. Also, angry!Spock is disturbingly hot. So is crouching!action Spock, and vulnerable!Spock ... just Spock in general rocked my socks.
Scotty was good times as well. I don't always love Simon Pegg (sacriledge I know), but I loved him here. Scotty yelling at the little rock man all the time cracked me up every time. Ah, good comedy.
I'm sure there's more I could say, and I know that the movie wasn't perfect (Nero's revenge plan and his whole reason for concocting it were kind of stupid, very Dr. Evil), but overall the movie was just ace and I don't really feel the need to complain. That was one of the most enjoyable film experiences I've had in a while.
I'm so happy that Trek is rebooted, and that so many non-Trekkies enjoyed the movie and are praising it.
Good job, JJ. After Cloverfield I was kind of hating you hardcore, but between this and Fringe you've redeemed yourself. Keep up the good work.
First of all, Chris Pine is love. Looking at pictures of him does nothing for me, but on screen as James T. Kirk I wanted him to take me around behind the middle school and get me pregnant. Seriously, I know Kirk was a ladies man on the original series, but I never bought it with Shatner. Chris Pine both brought the sexy, and made me believe that Kirk was a genius and worth everyone creaming themselves over him. I would follow this James T. Kirk into battle.
Uhura/Spock, really amazing. I didn't know they would be a couple in this film, but I fucking loved them. Uhura is the best girlfriend ever, and Spock is so schmoopy. I was so living vicariously through her as she comforted him in the turbolift after
Speaking of Uhura, did anyone catch what her first name was? I missed it both when Spock said it, and then when Kirk repeated it while asking if that was her first name.
Karl Urban rocked my panties as Bones. I loved every single moment he was on screen. Perfection. Karl Urban makes flaring your nostrils sexy ya'll. He's the male Megan Fox that way (only in the nostril flaring/hot sense, I know he's a far better thespian okay!) Also, I like that we got an explanation of why McCoy was called "Bones". Maybe they gave an explanation in the Original Series too, but because I wasn't even close to being born when that was on, I never knew where the nickname came from.
Sulu's folding sword was fucking amazing. I want one of those. "Fencing." lol. Not a lot of Sulu, but I liked what there was of him.
I've loved Anton Yelchin for a long time. I have no idea what the first thing I saw him in was, but I've always liked the kid. His Checkov was amazingly precious. I don't want to hit it, I just want to cuddle it. Seriously, so precious. And smart!
Rachel Nichols, I saw you! You were green! I have to admit, the greeniosity did obscure her hotness a little, but Gaila was amazing for her one big scene.
Seeing Leonard Nemoy made me ridiculously happy. Original!Spock you still hold a place in my heart. But, Zachary Quinto made a great Spock. I really loved him in the role, he really was perfection. Even boy!Spock was awesome. Also, angry!Spock is disturbingly hot. So is crouching!action Spock, and vulnerable!Spock ... just Spock in general rocked my socks.
Scotty was good times as well. I don't always love Simon Pegg (sacriledge I know), but I loved him here. Scotty yelling at the little rock man all the time cracked me up every time. Ah, good comedy.
I'm sure there's more I could say, and I know that the movie wasn't perfect (Nero's revenge plan and his whole reason for concocting it were kind of stupid, very Dr. Evil), but overall the movie was just ace and I don't really feel the need to complain. That was one of the most enjoyable film experiences I've had in a while.
I'm so happy that Trek is rebooted, and that so many non-Trekkies enjoyed the movie and are praising it.
Good job, JJ. After Cloverfield I was kind of hating you hardcore, but between this and Fringe you've redeemed yourself. Keep up the good work.
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Date: 2009-05-17 12:24 am (UTC)Nyota.
The way you feel about Kirk/Chris Pine is the same way I feel about Zachary Quinto/Spock! I mean I stopped watching *Heroes* because of Sylar and was kinda dreading seeing him as Spock but, dear lord, not only did he rock as Spock but I found him completely *hot*! Add in the scorching chemistry with Uhura and I've turned into a squealing fangirl!! And has me searching the internet for icons!
Like you said - was it perfect? No. But great googly-moogly does it have me excited about Star Trek again! I'm ready for them to pull a Twilight and shoot the next bajillion sequels all in a row!
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Date: 2009-05-17 01:00 am (UTC)Zach Quinto made a sexy Spock and Zoe Saldana was rockin' the Uhura boots. I know there is going to be loads of slash writen for the pairing Spock/Kirk but I've got my fingers crossed for some Uhura/T'pol.
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Date: 2009-05-17 04:02 pm (UTC)That scene was amazing. Both Pine and Greenwood hit it out of the park. No one should be as hot and charming as Kirk was with blood all over his face. But that is the power of Kirk.
I know there is going to be loads of slash writen for the pairing Spock/Kirk but I've got my fingers crossed for some Uhura/T'pol.
See, after the movie, I'm totally shipping Kirk/Bones WAY more than Kirk/Spock. Kirk/Bones were love. Every scene they had together was gold. And I loved Spock/Uhura so I don't want Kirk to break them up. It makes me sad because it means I don't really want any Uhura femslash either because it means that U/S broke up. I'd go for Uhura/T'Pol Academy slash though. Maybe T'Pol was an instructor or a guest lecturer or something. Yeah, that'd work. Now I can have the best of both worlds :D
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Date: 2009-05-17 03:57 pm (UTC)Thank you! ... ... now how do you pronounce that?
The way you feel about Kirk/Chris Pine is the same way I feel about Zachary Quinto/Spock! I mean I stopped watching *Heroes* because of Sylar and was kinda dreading seeing him as Spock but, dear lord, not only did he rock as Spock but I found him completely *hot*!
I feel this way about Spock/Quinto too. When I first heard he'd be playing Spock I was excited because Heroes hadn't started sucking yet. Then as I got increased frustrated with that show and Sylar, it was tainting my love of him as Spock. But the love is back and like ten times stronger now. He was perfection. Like I was actually jittering in my seat a moments with how awesome he was. Like the smackdown at the Vulcan Science Academy, I loved every scene with him and his mother, and when he materialized when his hand out but she wasn't there, and the way he kind of looked at the blank spot on the pad like he couldn't believe it ... awww, come here Spock I will comfort you (actually, I would if Uhura didn't already have the job, but she does and she's fucking amazing, so I'll just sit back and be dazzled by how much chemistry they have together)
I've turned into a squealing fangirl!! And has me searching the internet for icons!
Me too! I'm shipping Uhura/Spock like its my job, right now! I've been searching for movie icons since I got back.
Like you said - was it perfect? No. But great googly-moogly does it have me excited about Star Trek again! I'm ready for them to pull a Twilight and shoot the next bajillion sequels all in a row!
Not perfect, but really, really good. Even things like it being a huge sausage fest didn't bother me like it normally would have, because I LOVED all of the male characters, and would hit every one (hmm, maybe not Scotty, but I'd go out drinking with him). Also, they did beef up Uhura's part, and they made her pretty sassy so I forgive it. Uhura best be on an away mission and get to kick some ass in the sequel though, and she better have a uniform with pants for when she goes on the away missions!
I hope they do pull a Twilight and film them back to back, mostly for the selfish reason that I'd get more Trek sooner. The cast is going to explode, well, I think Pine is going to explode like crazy, Quinto is definitely set for a higher profile, and I hope that Hollywood finally starts playing attention to Zoe Saldana. I want her to be the new pretty go to black lady since Halle Berry is off being a mom. Cause right now it's like they are going to Beyonce for this shit, and I don't want to live a world like that!
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Date: 2009-05-17 09:11 pm (UTC)Nuh-yo-tah
Even things like it being a huge sausage fest didn't bother me like it normally would have, because I LOVED all of the male characters...
Lol, I think what I loved is that Kirk, as an icon, has been the hero character archetype for decades, ie, the arrogant and studly man-whore. And yet here, Kirk's still the alpha-male that gets all the booty and yet it's SPOCK that gets the girl!
Also, they did beef up Uhura's part, and they made her pretty sassy so I forgive it.
Had Uhura not been a linguistics guru EVERYONE WOULD HAVE DIED!!
And I just found out/realized that Zoe Saldana played Ana-Maria in Pirates of the Caribbean!!
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Date: 2009-05-18 12:12 am (UTC)Lisel
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Date: 2009-05-18 04:37 pm (UTC)They did a great job establishing the characters. I actually love these versions of the characters more than the originals in almost every case. And Spock/Uhura is pure win. Quinto and Saldana had chemistry coming out the butt.
I'm totally obsessed with Uhura/Spock right now too. They are too dreamy together.
Regarding Zoe Saldana, I agree she should get more attention
Word. Both Zoe the actress, and Uhura need to be on screen more.
but she is Hispanic, born of Puerto Rican and Dominican parents.
Yeah, but when people look at her they see a black woman. It may not be one hundred perecent accurate (or fair), but today (like in the past) if you look black you're considered black. I mean, I compared her to Halle who is half-white, but she is considered a 'black' actress.
Also, if Zoe's father isn't black Domincan I will eat a shoe, because she doesn't even really look all that mixed. Like I've got relatives Cuba (like going on 80 years now), but they're still black, they're just black Cubans, of which there are a lot, just like black Domincans.
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Date: 2009-05-18 04:41 pm (UTC)"When I go to the D.R., the press in Santo Domingo always asks, "¿Qué te consideras, dominicana o americana?" (What do you consider yourself, Dominican or American?) I don't understand it, and it's the same people asking the same question. So I say, time and time again, "Yo soy una mujer negra." ("I am a black woman.") [They go,] "Oh, no, tú eres trigueñita." ("Oh no, you are 'dark skinned'") I'm like, "No! Let's get it straight, yo soy una mujer negra." ("I am a black woman.")"
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Date: 2009-05-19 02:37 am (UTC)Lisel
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Date: 2009-05-17 02:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-17 04:06 pm (UTC)This. Every time he was on screen, my pants were happy. I loved pretty much everyone in the movie, but if I was at a bar with them, I totally would have been trying to go home with Bones.
I'm hoping the fandom that pops up for the movie will be filled with Bones/Kirk slash
Mte. I thought Kirk/Bones had WAY more sexual chemistry that Kirk/Spock. I loved every scene that Kirk and Bones were in together.
And like you I loved Spock/Uhura so I don't want Kirk breaking them up. They were amazingly awesome in this movie. I'm actually surprised by how much I love them as a couple, so I want Kirk to stay away! Threesome fic is kind of intriguing though, as long as Spock/Uhura stay together in the end.
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Date: 2009-05-17 04:39 pm (UTC)Karl Urban = Spot on. You could actually believe that he's gonna be DeForest Kelley in a few years time!
Simon Pegg = Hilarious. I wasn't as gaga over Shaun of the Dead as the rest of the world seemed to be, and I don't *think* I've seen him in anything else, but he totally cracked my ass up in this movie.
Anton Yelchin = Also hilarious... Between his little comments to himself and the accent; the whole scene where he was doing the ship wide announcement had me rolling!
Leonard Nimoy putting in an appearance was just manna from Treknerd heaven. "I am not our father" *rofl*
So much more I could go on about but I need coffee so I'm gonna stop gushing now :D
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Date: 2009-05-17 06:10 pm (UTC)This was me. It was such an enjoyable movie going experience.
the whole scene where he was doing the ship wide announcement had me rolling!
Oh, I know! I wanted to hug him forever in that scene. The part where he was all, "Wicker Wicker" and the computer had no idea what he was saying, so he had to concentrate really really hard to get it to sound like "Victor Victor" cracked me up so much.
Leonard Nimoy putting in an appearance was just manna from Treknerd heaven. "I am not our father"
This! I loved that line too.
And I have to say, Karl Urban's delivery of "Are you out of your Vulcan mind?" and "Pointy-eared little hobgoblin" made me laugh out loud. Bones is the man, man, lol.
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Date: 2009-05-17 07:26 pm (UTC)I need to go see this movie again *nods*
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Date: 2009-05-17 05:34 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-17 06:30 pm (UTC)I understand the JJ haterade. For years I've felt like this when it comes to JJ:
It started with the general crapifying of "Alias", continued to build as "Lost" degenerated into a pile of steaming poo, and culminated with the unadulterated crap fest that was "Cloverfield"
But my god, he got it right this time. The Star Trek reboot is one of the most enjoyable movies I've seen in a very long time. I'm still squeeing about it a day later, and seriously contemplating watching it again 24 hours after seeing it the first time.
damn you and your canadian svegalism!!
Don't try to fight it!
Seriously, go see the movie. You will not be disappointed. I don't even have any disclaimers to give with this one. I can wholeheartedly and in good conscience recommend it to anyone.
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Date: 2009-05-17 08:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-17 08:20 pm (UTC)This makes sense. I was watching it, and I was like, "This is really well written" and was having trouble wrapping my mind around the fact that J.J. was responsible for it.
I will give J.J. props for making it look good, because the movie does look fantastic, and I thought that it was directed well, but you are totally right that credit should be given where credit is due, and script writers deserve a lot of props for putting this thing together.
Roberto Orci & Alex Kurtzman are also the reason that Fringe is enjoyable. I think they're the head writers for that too (and they were for Alias, which I also really liked, even when it kind of sucked).
The real JJ trainwrecks (aka Cloverfield and Lost - yeah, the first season was good but I'm gonna go right ahead and characterize it as a trainwreck) are the ones he did without these guys.
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Date: 2009-05-17 10:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-17 06:44 pm (UTC)the casting was fantastic. i am in awe of the level of detail that must have went into the filming of this movie. the vocal inflections, the signature phrases, the tiny individual characteristics that are completely necessary for re-building a pre-existing character : it's all in there, and it's 100% natural. as someone familiar with these characters, that's a huge accomplishment because these weren't actors playing some of my favorite characters : these actors truly became those characters, embodying them almost exactly as i've always known them. every single one of them blew me away.
spock/uhura = killed me. their little stolen moments together were perfection.
as you said, there were minor quibbles, but nothing to really make a fuss over. simply put, this movie rocked.
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Date: 2009-05-17 08:22 pm (UTC)I'm hoping to see it again today actually!
i was afraid that it would feel forced, but everything seemed really organic - which is a big deal considering it IS a reboot, after all
mte.
spock/uhura = killed me. their little stolen moments together were perfection.
This, I'm really amazed by how much I love them. They were so much love together. That turbolift scene with her holding his face made me felt into a little puddle of goo.
simply put, this movie rocked.
This!
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Date: 2009-05-18 01:18 am (UTC)didn't see the Spock/Uhura romance coming; loved it. Kirk didn't get the girl for a change lol. also saw why Zoe Saldana was on the Maxim list. i nearly laughed out loud when i saw Winona as Spock's mom but she wasn't half bad. Karl Urban is lovely as usual. always enjoy seeing him in a movie. seeing Leonard Nimoy was bloody awesome. had a Star Wars deja vu moment when Kirk hit his head entering the transport lol. Scotty's rock friend was cute; i just want to pet him. the people i went with were complaining about how they couldn't predict the sun going nova in the far future when they were so technologically advanced.
saw Cloverfield last night and was glad i didn't spend money seeing it in theatres.
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Date: 2009-05-18 03:51 pm (UTC)This was me exactly. I was really obtuse about it. I didn't realize until she kissed him. I was like "Aw, Uhura is a really great co-worker ... omg, she's wearing his lips on her face!" I thought they were adorable to. I will be livid if they break them up. Uhura/Spock makes my heart melty.
i nearly laughed out loud when i saw Winona as Spock's mom but she wasn't half bad
lol, my friend giggled every single time she showed up on screen. It's sad that she's now lulz worthy simply for showing her face. I thought she was pretty good as Spock's mom, I really enjoyed all their scenes together and I was DEVASTATED when she died. I didn't see that coming. She was so much cooler than Sarek, who I didn't love in this movie. It cracked me up that even wtih aging makeup Winona still didn't look all that old though. The woman is Benjamin Button, it's crazy.
Scotty's rock friend was cute; i just want to pet him.
I LOVED Scotty's rock friend so much. I was so happy that Scotty went back for him. "You have like a bean and you're full!" lol. When Scotty beamed away and the rock guy sniffled, I was all teary. I was so happy to see him at the end (and in uniform! So cute)
the people i went with were complaining about how they couldn't predict the sun going nova in the far future when they were so technologically advanced.
I didn't really think about this the first time, but the second time I saw it, Nero's motivation seemed even more ridiculous. It's like clearly the Romulans were on par technologically with the Vulcans. They asked the Vulcans for help. It's like, okay Spock was too late, but WTF your scientists didn't come up with anything to solve the problem. Don't destroy Vulcan because apparently everyone on your planet is stupid. Why didn't they just evacuate Romulus? They managed to get 10,000 Vulcans off of Vulcan in minutes, you're telling me Romulus had no idea this was coming. And why the hell was Romulus like two feet away from a sun away? AND HOW ON EARTH WAS STARFLEET TO BLAME FOR ANYTHING? And I don't understand why villians think that killing hundreds of billions of people for other worlds will protect their people? It just makes you the biggest, evilest douche that ever lived.
But, the movie was good enough that the stupidity of Nero didn't bother me too much.
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Date: 2009-05-18 01:49 am (UTC)Karl Urban was definitely channeling Deforrest Kelly in his role. Loved his 'Dammit, Jim!' line every time he shot Kirk full of something with his hypo.."Green Blooded Hobgoblin!' LOL!
Spock/Uhura? WOWOWOW! Now the scene where she complains about her initial posting to 'Farragut' made sense. i see many a fic on how they met coming...
The Enterprise itself...hmmm....it didn't really get me going too much...but I guess it couldn't look too much like past ships.
Ok, I do have some nitpicks:
1) If Uhura had heard that distress call about the Klingons fighting the Romulan ship (which she told Kayla when Kirk was under the bed) why didn't she tell Pike? She even apologized about it when Kirk was looking for reasons to stop Enterprise. That just seemed like a serious lack of protocol or basic orders. Withholding of info like that is almost criminal.
2) The 'air drop' scene. Loved it, sounded cool...but, if they were attacking the mining thingy...why the hell didn't they have ANY heavy weapons? Heck, even hand phasers would've helped. The other guy died with the charges and Sulu only had a sword?? No one else thought to maybe bring a phaser rifle?
3) WTF happened to Starfleet while Nero's ship hovered over the Earth? Why didn't they attack? What happened to the planetary defenses? I know Nero got some 'subpace coordinates' *insert more techno-babble* from Pike but I was hoping to see a lot of Starfleet committed to a big defense.
I know there're more nitpicks, but that's about it.
Overall, great movie but I did notice some things that glared out.
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Date: 2009-05-18 04:02 pm (UTC)I'm guessing she didn't see a connection. Kirk made the connection with the lightening and the Romulan ship because of how his father died. But considering that they were on their way to Vulcan, and that the distress call had come from the Klingon empire she might not have thought the two things were connected. She seemed to have an 'oh shit' look on her face when Kirk brought it up, like she was thinking that she SHOULD have made the connection, but didn't.
but, if they were attacking the mining thingy...why the hell didn't they have ANY heavy weapons? Heck, even hand phasers would've helped. The other guy died with the charges and Sulu only had a sword?? No one else thought to maybe bring a phaser rifle?
Kirk had a phaser on him, but it got knocked away immediately. Sulu probably had one too, but he got the sword out to cut his shute off, and then had to fight immediately. Rifles aren't really weapons that are used for close combat, so I can see why they didn't have huge guns like that.
WTF happened to Starfleet while Nero's ship hovered over the Earth? Why didn't they attack? What happened to the planetary defenses? I know Nero got some 'subpace coordinates' *insert more techno-babble* from Pike but I was hoping to see a lot of Starfleet committed to a big defense.
This is perplexing.
I mean, I know that most of the fleet was in the Laurentian system (helping the Klingons? I don't really know what they were doing out there) which is why the cadets had to go on the Vulcan rescue mission. BUT, if the Enterprise made it to Earth in time to stop Nero, then the rest of the fleet should have been able to make it to Earth as well. The Enterprise was in constant communication with the fleet, so it makes no sense that the Fleet didn't return to Earth to help. The only thing I can think of, it that they didn't believe Kirk's reasoning, but it seems like if the planet was at risk, they at least would have sent a few ships to earth to check things out.
Honestly, this one is truly mindboggling.
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Date: 2009-05-18 01:51 am (UTC)Perhaps it's all explained through Romulans simply being morons. At least they seemed to be very intellectually challenged in the movie.
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Date: 2009-05-18 04:09 pm (UTC)Yeah, pretty much everything that had to do with the Romulans made no sense. Like, why was a mining ship equipped with such deadly weapons. It made it seem like Nero attacked Old!Spock right after Romulus was destroyed, so he would have had no time to modify the ship before being pulled into the rift.
Also, if a dot of red matter could destroy planets, why the hell was OldSpock flying around with a GIANT BALL of that shit. Couldn't that have destroyed like an entire star system?
And yeah, the tenticle thing made no sense. They should have been able to just drop it on the planet. The only thing I'm thinking is that maybe red matter needed extreme heat to explode, but they never mentioned anything like that so that just me trying to fanwank.
Perhaps it's all explained through Romulans simply being morons. At least they seemed to be very intellectually challenged in the movie.
Oh, I know. They were unbelievably dim in this. I mean, they did stay on their planet even though they knew the sun was about to supernova. I'm sorry, if they had enough time to ask the Vulcans for help, and the Vulcan's had enough time to build a ship and get all the red matter shit together, then the Romulans had enough time to evacuate, and just decided to stay and garden and wait for someone else to save them. Dumb shits.
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Date: 2009-05-18 03:08 am (UTC)I can't say how the characters compare to their TV counterparts, obviously ... well apart from the Shatman, everyone knows him. But I really liked that you got a sense of what each person was like. Everyone had a role to play, they each did something that was important to the plot, and had their moment of awesome. It’s not always easy to pull that off with an ensemble cast.
I thought Chris Pine was fine, though I didn't like him as much as you. Was it just me, or did it seem like he spent half his screen time clinging to a ledge or getting smacked in the face? LOLZ. I thought that Spock stole the show, though. I’ve never heard of the actor before, but he did a good job. And yeah ... extremely attractive. What's weird, though, is that the actor himself is normally kind of meh, he's really only attractive as Spock ... at least to me. ~*~let the fangirling begin~*~
The others ... Karl "Caesar" Urban is always pretty lolzy to me, and I really liked him in this. His & Kirk's friendship was cool. They are my slash couple of choice ... I know that Kirk/Spock basically invented fan fiction, but I like the idea of Kirk & Spock being platonic BFFs, and I thought that Kirk/McCoy was where the chemistry was. McCoy is there to ‘heal him’ any time, if you know what I mean. Plus, Uhura/Spock was rad. I really liked that Uhura went out with Spock instead of meathead jocky Kirk. It's nice to see a scenario where it's the geeky one getting the girl. Team Nerd forever!
Definitely heaps of fun to watch. There were heaps of things that were (I assume) nods to the original series but that I didn't get (some catchphrases, the rock man, the fencing line, etc). And yeah, there were plot holes big enough to drive trucks through. But I was having too much fun to care a lot. So yep, count this newbie as a converted Star Trek fan. :-)
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Date: 2009-05-18 11:33 am (UTC)While I do appreciate this notion, I don't think that the nerd/jock dynamic is at work here. Spock dominated Kirk both physically and mentally. Took him to town, bought him breakfast and made him his bitch. I'd say that Kirk was the nerd because of how he "defeated" Spock. Through cleverness instead of brute force (I believe there's such a thing as intellectual brute force). Spock's emotions were his undoing. Thus, he was the jock in this case. Sure, Kirk was the brash adventurer and Spock the introverted scientist, I give you that. But you have to realize who is dominant and who is not. Also one thing that the stereotype includes is arrogance, I didn't see that in Kirk.
I believe Uhura was attracted to Spock's status. Very traditional. Nothing to see here.
All in all, it was a fun reversal of roles and gives me a lot of brain-food.
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Date: 2009-05-20 07:19 am (UTC)Also one thing that the stereotype includes is arrogance, I didn't see that in Kirk. Maybe this is why our views differ, he came across as pretty arrogant to me. Justified in his conclusions maybe, but pretty smug with it!
Interesting discussion, I liked reading your take :-)
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Date: 2009-05-22 02:59 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-05-18 04:16 pm (UTC)This. Everyone had a moment to shine. I was very glad that Uhura got something to do, she was usually wasted on the original series. And that Chekov and Sulu also had their moments. Bones, Kirk, Spock and Scotty usually always had moments to shine.
Was it just me, or did it seem like he spent half his screen time clinging to a ledge or getting smacked in the face?
lol, I totally noticed this too! I was wondering if it was supposed to be a metaphor for Kirk's life, or if it was just kind of lazy story telling, but yeah, like every five seconds dude was dangling off of something about being hit in the face.
Karl "Caesar" Urban is always pretty lolzy to me, and I really liked him in this. His & Kirk's friendship was cool. They are my slash couple of choice ...
mte. I loved Kirk/Bones, and they are totally my slash pairing too. Like you I think Kirk/Spock are better as yin/yang BFFs. Part of that comes from the fact that I love Spock/Uhura, but I also didn't see much UST with Spock/Kirk, but it was there out the butt with Kirk/Bones.
but that I didn't get (some catchphrases, the rock man, the fencing line, etc)
I don't think the rock man had anything to do with the original series, or the fencing line either. People like me were geeking out over seeing NCC-1701 written on the hull, and everything time Bones said "Dammit Jim!", and the Vulcan Sleep grip and stuff like that. But they've set everything up so you can geek out over these things too in the next movie :D
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Date: 2009-12-27 08:08 am (UTC)Speaking as someone who's a non Trekker (Next Generations was the only series I liked), but I was amazed by this film.
The cast was amazing. Not a single character I would've taken out. I don't know if Bruce Greenwood's Cpt Pike was in the original series or not, but it was good seeing a character I wasn't familiar with and liking him. By the time Leonard Nemoy appeared, I was applauding. And again this was coming from a non Trekkie. The film really built up to that moment very well. It was also refreshing to see that Nemoy was actually relevant to the plot instead of being an unnecessary cameo. Love his narrative voice too. Also don't be afraid to say you don't like Simon Pegg, because this was the first role where I thought he was actually funny. Needless to say I didn't like Hot Fuzz and absolutely hated Shaun of the Dead.
The story was very well thought out and loved how it payed respects to the original series. It was both a sequel and reboot at the same time.
The effects were amazing. It gave me that Starship Troopers feel where I actually wanted to join Starfleet. I was surprise the overall film only cost 140 mil considering how much films are more costly yet don't look half as good like Spiderman with it's 258 mil budget.
I also checked out IMdb and think I have answers to the questions concerning the Romulans. It says that they're a proud warrior race (so I guess they're white Klingons?) and this might explain somethings.
That would explain why the mining vessel had weapons due to the Romulans loving their weapons. It might also explain why they didn't launch a planet wide evacuation. See the first Superman film for an excellent example of a race that knew fully well their planet was in danger, but chose to stay and be morons due to pride.
I could even give a reasonable explanation why Neron drops the red matter in the planet's core rather than the surface. Remember both him and Spock time traveled when they went through that black hole. So if he dropped it on the surface there was the possibility the planet might have actually went through the black hole and survived. Neron clearly didn't want that, so he drops it in the center so the black hole can destroy the planet piece by piece.
Now I think it's only fair to nitpick some things.
First Anton Yelchin's accent bugged me. Again I'm not a Trekki so I'm not sure if that's how Checkov suppose to sound like, but it bothered me the same way Anton said "come with me if you want to live" in Terminator Salvation bothered me.
Second where the heck were the other starships when Neron attacking Earth? You think hearing someone is planning to destroy your planet would grab some attention.
Third I kind of agree with the people saying Kirk being made first officer felt kind of rushed. But just a bit because I think Pike making Kirk first officer was plausible enough.
Really that's it. Overall it gave me a science fiction feel that I hadn't felt in a long time.